National Duals format

[overeasy]

I've been trying to find some definitive info about what is going on this year, but so far my reaction is..What???

I've read disconnected statements such as "B1G teams will be named on 2/14," to "all the teams will just wrestle once," to "finals may be moved to Feb 22."

I obviously must be missing something. Anybody help??

 

[Vallholl]

As I understand it, it is one and done. Try to think of the ACC/B1G matchup for basketball or the bowl game format for football. All of the B1G teams are hosting, so that part is set. The idea of the finals moving (based on my interpretation) would be take #1 B1Gteam, PSU vs Okie State or NC State and they move to Sunday for a prime time match.

I re-named this the National Friendship Duals when it was explained to me,

 

[overeasy]

As I understand it, it is one and done. Try to think of the ACC/B1G matchup for basketball or the bowl game format for football. All of the B1G teams are hosting, so that part is set. The idea of the finals moving (based on my interpretation) would be take #1 B1Gteam, PSU vs Okie State or NC State and they move to Sunday for a prime time match.

I re-named this the National Friendship Duals when it was explained to me,

So if it's one and done it's not a tournament and there really aren't any "finals" to move. Right?

 

[Lsanders20]

So if it's one and done it's not a tournament and there really aren't any "finals" to move. Right?

I just hope no body gets injured or blows a ranking. If there is really nothing to gain I would rather see them prepare for the real tournaments.

 

[Vallholl]

So if it's one and done it's not a tournament and there really aren't any "finals" to move. Right?

I assume that "finals" means the #1 B1G team vs #1 Non-B1G team. Ie. NCState @ PSU.

 

[overeasy]

I assume that "finals" means the #1 B1G team vs #1 Non-B1G team. Ie. NCState @ PSU.

You could be right, but that would be a somewhat odd use of the term. But, hey. If that's what they mean, then OK.

 

[HAMNEGGS]

Here's one opinion on the duals. Interesting match up, IA and VT.
http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2016/2/2/10893760/wrestling-bowl-championship-series

The KaBoom! Disinfectant Spray Dual
#10 VaTech at #2 Iowa



WT Iowa
VaTech


(ACC Champ)

125 #2 Gilman #3 Dance
133 #3 Clark Gustafson
141 Carton #11 Chishko
149 #2 Sorensen Mastriani
157 #16 Cooper #4 Brascetta
165 Rhoads #19 McFadden
174 #10 Meyer #4 Epperly
184 #11 Brooks #14 Zavatsky
197 #4 Burak #8 Haught
285 #7 Stoll #3 Walz


What a great dual (should it come to pass). Iowa's favored at 4 weights; VaTech's favored at 4. And you get two toss-ups. This would be must-see television.

 

[dicemen99]

Here's one opinion on the duals. Interesting match up, IA and VT.
http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2016/2/2/10893760/wrestling-bowl-championship-series

The KaBoom! Disinfectant Spray Dual
#10 VaTech at #2 Iowa



WT Iowa
VaTech


(ACC Champ)

125 #2 Gilman #3 Dance
133 #3 Clark Gustafson
141 Carton #11 Chishko
149 #2 Sorensen Mastriani
157 #16 Cooper #4 Brascetta
165 Rhoads #19 McFadden
174 #10 Meyer #4 Epperly
184 #11 Brooks #14 Zavatsky
197 #4 Burak #8 Haught
285 #7 Stoll #3 Walz


What a great dual (should it come to pass). Iowa's favored at 4 weights; VaTech's favored at 4. And you get two toss-ups. This would be must-see television.

I've got to say, that is a very interesting dual. That is what is great about duals, you never know who matches up well with who.

 

[RoarLions1]

http://www.nwcaonline.com/nwcawebsite/Events/national-duals_di_duals_series

The link above should help with most questions re. the Dual Championship Series. A bracketed format would be brutal for all teams just before the conference tournaments, so like it or not, it's not a horrible set-up to try for 1 year. And it's a free competition date, as it doesn't count in the 16 limit.

 

[Vallholl]

Nic

Here's one opinion on the duals. Interesting match up, IA and VT.
http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2016/2/2/10893760/wrestling-bowl-championship-series

The KaBoom! Disinfectant Spray Dual
#10 VaTech at #2 Iowa



WT Iowa
VaTech


(ACC Champ)

125 #2 Gilman #3 Dance
133 #3 Clark Gustafson
141 Carton #11 Chishko
149 #2 Sorensen Mastriani
157 #16 Cooper #4 Brascetta
165 Rhoads #19 McFadden
174 #10 Meyer #4 Epperly
184 #11 Brooks #14 Zavatsky
197 #4 Burak #8 Haught
285 #7 Stoll #3 Walz


What a great dual (should it come to pass). Iowa's favored at 4 weights; VaTech's favored at 4. And you get two toss-ups. This would be must-see television.

Nice article. Would still prefer to wrestle Mizzu in a rematch of last year's finals. And I always want to wrestle Oklahoma to even out the all time series.

 

[overeasy]

Here's one opinion on the duals. Interesting match up, IA and VT.
http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2016/2/2/10893760/wrestling-bowl-championship-series

The KaBoom! Disinfectant Spray Dual
#10 VaTech at #2 Iowa



WT Iowa
VaTech


(ACC Champ)

125 #2 Gilman #3 Dance
133 #3 Clark Gustafson
141 Carton #11 Chishko
149 #2 Sorensen Mastriani
157 #16 Cooper #4 Brascetta
165 Rhoads #19 McFadden
174 #10 Meyer #4 Epperly
184 #11 Brooks #14 Zavatsky
197 #4 Burak #8 Haught
285 #7 Stoll #3 Walz


What a great dual (should it come to pass). Iowa's favored at 4 weights; VaTech's favored at 4. And you get two toss-ups. This would be must-see television.

I think there's some bad information in that article.

First, I don't think the Virginia Duals simply morphed into the National Duals. According to this website, the Virginia Duals were started in 1981 and have continued up to this year. Apparently, the '89 / '90 / '91 Virginia Duals and National Duals were one and the same, however.

http://virginiaduals.org/past-champions/

Second, the national duals didn't simply "move" to Iowa from Virginia. Those first three tournaments ('89-'91) were in Virginia, then it goes:
1 year in Ann Arbor, 5 years in Lincoln, 2 years in Iowa City, 2 years in State College, 2 years in Columbus, 2 years in Cleveland, 6 years in Cedar Falls, then they went to a regional-multiple location format starting in 2012.

So the statement in the article: "Over time, new questions arose. Why is the tournament always in Iowa?" is more than a bit misleading. Besides, even if it were true, the obvious answer would be "attendance." The duals have never come close to matching the attendance they got in Iowa City and Cedar Falls.

Third, Iowa is only listed as having participated in the Virginia Duals twice, in '90 & '91, two of the years they appear to be the same as the National Duals.