Natural Immunity for the win AGAIN
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It's false/misleading.
Their risks are 7-fold with Covid
Vaccines REDUCE the risk of myocarditis when you are exposed to/infected with the virus, by 50%.
Run the numbers on that, and you will find you have 30% lower risk of myocarditis by getting vaccinated.
Here's that math for you, since you seem to be math-illiterate here:
If 30 people per 100,000 would get myocarditis from the vaccines
Then 7x, 210, people per 100,000 - unvaccinated - will get myocarditis from the virus
And 105 vaccinated people per 100,000 will get myocarditis from the virus when exposed (50% reduced risk)
210 > (105+30)
105+30 / 210 = 64.3%
Ergo: getting vaccinate will REDUCE your overall risks for myocarditis by more than 35%
With the ADDED BENEFIT that you know when you look for the heart issues when you get a vaccine, because you know your exposure window. That is NOT TRUE necessarily with Covid.
Not anymore
It mostly vanishes after 10 months.
Lots of people infected in the first rounds of Covid made this same mistake; then they died when they were infected with Delta.
You can get the vaccines BEFORE there are major outbreaks of newer variants to have protection DURING those winter outbreaks.
If you skip the vaccines, you're rolling the dice that those variants won't cause a serious illness.
if you get the vaccine you're rolling the dice you could experience a negative effect like myocarditis.
Sure; but your risk is 2/3 of what it will be WITHOUT the vaccine.
Because you WILL be exposed to Covid at some point. The choice you are making is whether you want that extra protection from the virus WHEN you get exposed.
No, you just walk around saying they’re poison. 🙄
At one time, doctors, actual doctors thought smoking cigarettes was healthy and even prescribed them. Let's not pretend they have a perfect track record and the medical/scientific community is above reproach. I think its fair to question the jabs.
No; they didn't.
Advertising campaigns by tobacco companies mainly drove that shit.
That's mostly just Newton's Third law in effect. That's how I arrived at poison. One extreme says these things are perfect and not at all broken and you're a moron for questioning them at all... the equal and opposite reaction is to call them poison. I mostly do it to screw with Joe's Place.
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Same here. Never had Covid. Initial J&J vaccination, boosted twice (January 2022 and December 2022), one Moderna one Pfizer.
Only one member in my extended family has had Covid. That’s about 1 in 17. So I’d like to see a more detailed definition of almost everyone.
Fair question. No, I don't think doing nothing was better than what was done, but I don't believe this had to be an all or nothing binary choice.
According to the WHO covid dashboard the US has had 103,436,829 cases of covid...suggesting about 1 in 3 Americans have had covid. Thats pretty significant.
If natural immunity does wipe out Covid someday some of you are going to be devastated.
Either they are a bunch of inbreds living in a tiny shithole nobody visits and nobody leaves or you are full of shit.
Considering the claims that only 20% of those infected display symptoms, then that's actually 500,000,000
Or enough that most Americans have been infected at least once already...
How well has "natural immunity" worked on influenza?
Now, consider that Covid mutates anywhere from 2.5x to 4x times faster than most influenza strains do. AND has more mammalian reservoirs to mutate within.
Your math and facts aren't correct. 40% don't display symptoms. 40% display mild symptoms. That means 60% display symptoms.
Bottom line is that most people in the US have had COVID, whether they knew it or not, and whether they were vaccinated or not.
Which means 80% probably do NOT get tested and are not included in that math.
Thx for confirming my point and analysis here.
Sounds like we know enough now to confirm that vaccine mandates were not necessary and were a gross overreaction and overreach by both public & private entities.
I mean, I don't care if you Trumpers don't take it. The more Herman Cain Awards for Trumpers, the better
this ain't the flu... this is a lab creation, they're different.
Uh huh...what's your background in science and virology?
More nonsense.
Vaccines were critical in lowering the spread and protecting people
They were nice to have yes. The spread happened anyway. But now that we have more information, it is clear that mandates were not justified.
The spread was massively reduced due to vaccines, compared to what it would have been.
This has been proven false and is contrary to what our global civilization experienced.
Vaccine mandates were never justified.
Yes, we should have let more Ivermectin taking Trumpers die. I agree.
It's been proven true.
Vaccines DID prevent transmission. No matter how many times you want to post that they don't.
