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NCAA has charged Bill Self with THREE Level 1 (most serious) Violations, alleging he was in on Adidas' Scheme

The guys who have incorporated questionable practices into recruiting use “situation ethics” to justify their methods. Eventually, they convince themselves and others that they are great coaches... and much smarter because they have developed a remarkable system.

Example: in the 1969 Final Four, I am convinced that Drake had at least as good of a coach as UCLA. For that game, Maury was greater.

But Wooden with Alcindor was the legend. Maury with 6’6” Al Willians at center uwas a footnote to history

I think we are lucky to have Fran and don’t want to exchange him for Bill Hizzelf.
 
My top 5 coaches I dislike the most in college basketball.

1 - Roy Williams
2 - Tom Izzo
3 - Bill Self
4 - Bobby Huggins
5 - John Calipari

You got the top 3 exactly as I would too. Williams has never had to coach for anything but blue blood...Kansas and UNC...and as a result he's an arrogant jerk. Izzo is just a big drama Queen to get his way.
 
UNC is definitely not struggling with recruiting.
For their current roster they absolutely are. A bunch of low major transfers getting a ton of PT. I don’t feel sorry for them I think it’s just more proof Roy sucks. They’re loaded against next year.
 
For their current roster they absolutely are. A bunch of low major transfers getting a ton of PT. I don’t feel sorry for them I think it’s just more proof Roy sucks. They’re loaded against next year.


Dont get me wrong, I am loving seeing UNC and Roy Williams lose this year.

Their 2019 recruiting class was #9 per 247's website. Two 5 star, one 4 star and one 3 star recuit. This was led by stud Cole Anthony....who has been injured most of the season and will leave for the NBA after this year to be a lottery pick.
 
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For their current roster they absolutely are. A bunch of low major transfers getting a ton of PT. I don’t feel sorry for them I think it’s just more proof Roy sucks. They’re loaded against next year.

A couple of those transfers though were thought to be really good gets. They just didn't turn out but look at what else they have.

4 stars:
Brooks
Black
Francis
Harris
Robinson

5 stars
Anthony
Bacot

And as you said they have a great recruiting class coming in so that is what I mean by their recruiting hasn't suffered. They just had some injury issues and guys not pan out this year.

And Roy doesn't suck, at least not as a coach. He is one of the best of all time.
 
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A couple of those transfers though were thought to be really good gets. They just didn't turn out but look at what else they have.

4 stars:
Brooks
Black
Francis
Harris
Robinson

5 stars
Anthony
Bacot

And as you said they have a great recruiting class coming in so that is what I mean by their recruiting hasn't suffered. They just had some injury issues and guys not pan out this year.

And Roy doesn't suck, at least not as a coach. He is one of the best of all time.

No, this is bad. :)

 
Dont get me wrong, I am loving seeing UNC and Roy Williams lose this year.

Their 2019 recruiting class was #9 per 247's website. Two 5 star, one 4 star and one 3 star recuit. This was led by stud Cole Anthony....who has been injured most of the season and will leave for the NBA after this year to be a lottery pick.
yeah, unfortunately, once the academic fraud scandal ended, recruiting seemed to start to pick up again
 
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Miller is a good one. Didn't he get caught on tape talking about paying players? How does he still have a job?

Yes he did. He was busted worse than Nixon. The guy should be banned. As much or more as Billy Self.

Will justice prevail?? We'll know soon.
 
Bill Self wants the NCAA to award him & Kansas the National Championship.

Watch, as ESPN makes fun of the cheater:

 
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I'm surprised Ole Roy Boy can find his way to the arena for the games. He doesn't seem to be aware of anything else connected to his program.
 
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It is a matter of who has better lawyers even though the NCAA is kansas’ “boss”.
 
The story that follows is from today. The Jayhawks are charged with five Level I rules violations, the most serious, including lack of institutional control.


NCAA enforcement office calls Kansas' violations 'egregious, severe'

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Mark Schlabach
ESPN Senior Writer
May 7, 2020; 4:38 PM CT



The NCAA enforcement staff said Kansas' basketball program committed "egregious" and "severe" rules violations that "significantly undermine and threaten the NCAA Collegiate Model," and alleged that Jayhawks coach Bill Self and assistant Kurtis Townsend "embraced, welcomed and encouraged" Adidas employees and consultants to influence high-profile recruits to sign with Kansas.

That was the NCAA enforcement staff's position in its 92-page reply to Kansas, which the university released on Thursday. The Jayhawks are charged with five Level I rules violations, the most serious, including lack of institutional control. Self is charged with head-coach responsibility violations.

Under NCAA rules, a head coach could be hit with a show-cause order and be suspended up to an entire season for Level I violations.

Kansas is also charged with two Level II violations and one Level III violation related to the football program under coach David Beaty.

Because of the complexity and severity of the allegations, and Kansas' position regarding Adidas' role, the case might be processed through the independent accountability resolutions process (IARP). An independent resolution panel (IRP), consisting of five independent members with legal, higher education and/or sports backgrounds, would hear the case and decide what penalties the Jayhawks would face. The IRP's decision is final and there are no appeals.

"While the football allegations involve alleged Level II and III violations, which are serious alleged violations, there can be no doubt the men's basketball allegations are egregious, severe and are the kind that significantly undermine and threaten the NCAA Collegiate Model," the NCAA enforcement staff wrote in its reply. "The institution secured significant recruiting and competitive advantages by committing alleged Level I men's basketball violations. The institution, in taking its defiant posture in the case, is indifferent to how its alleged violations may have adversely impacted other NCAA institutions who acted in compliance with NCAA legislation."

Kansas officials, along with Self and Townsend, are disputing each of the five Level I violations regarding the men's basketball program, as well as each of the nine aggravating factors cited by the NCAA.

"The NCAA enforcement staff's reply does not in any way change the University of Kansas' position that the allegations brought against our men's basketball program are simply baseless and littered with false representations," Kansas officials wrote in a statement on Thursday. "As the federal trial proved, Adidas employees intentionally concealed impermissible payments from the University and its coaching staff. The University has never denied these impermissible payments were made. For the NCAA enforcement staff to allege that the University should be held responsible for these payments is a distortion of the facts and a gross misapplication of NCAA Bylaws and case precedent.

"In addition, the enforcement staff's assertion that KU refuses to accept responsibility is wrong. The University absolutely would accept responsibility if it believed that violations had occurred, as we have demonstrated with other self-reported infractions. Chancellor [Doug] Girod, [athletic director] Jeff Long and KU stand firmly behind Coach Self, his staff and our men's basketball program, as well as our robust compliance program."

Adidas and its employees and consultants were at the center of a federal investigation into bribes and other corruption in college basketball. The Jayhawks are the company's flagship program and signed a 14-year, $196 million apparel and sponsorship extension in April 2019.

During a federal trial in October 2018, Adidas executive James Gatto, former Adidas consultant Merl Code and aspiring business manager Christian Dawkins were found guilty on felony charges of wire fraud and conspiracy to commit wire fraud. They are appealing their convictions.

In September 2019, former Adidas consultant T.J. Gassnola was sentenced to probation and fined for his role in pay-for-play schemes to steer recruits to Kansas and other Adidas-sponsored programs.

Gatto was accused of working with Gassnola to facilitate $90,000 from Adidas to former Jayhawks recruit Billy Preston's mother and agreeing to pay $20,000 to Fenny Falmagne, current Kansas player Silvio De Sousa's guardian, to help him "get out from under" a pay-for-play scheme to attend Maryland, which is sponsored by Under Armour.

The NCAA also included allegations that Gassnola provided $15,000 to an unidentified individual to give to the mother of recruit Deandre Ayton, who signed with Arizona, and that Gassnola "communicated in a text message to Self that he had let Self down" when Ayton signed with the Wildcats.

"Regarding the men's basketball allegations, very few facts are in dispute," the NCAA reply said. "The institution does not dispute that Adidas and its employee and consultant provided at least $100,000 to families of three men's basketball student-athletes the institution was recruiting. Bill Self (Self), head men's basketball coach, and Kurtis Townsend (Townsend), assistant men's basketball coach, also do not dispute many of the facts related to Adidas and its representatives having contact with prospects, and that they regularly communicated with Adidas representatives about their recruitment of prospects.

"However, where the parties diverge from the NCAA enforcement staff is on the key issue of responsibility for this conduct. They assert that Adidas and four of its employees or consultants are not representatives of the institution's athletics interests, arguing the enforcement staff's analysis is novel, unprecedented and never previously contemplated by the NCAA membership."

The NCAA enforcement staff contends NCAA membership "feared shoe apparel company involvement and influence in the recruitment of elite student-athletes and then put safeguards into place in an attempt to prevent what occurred in this case."

"The institution failed to control and monitor the relationship between Adidas' representatives with its storied men's basketball program," the NCAA reply said. "This failure led to TJ Gassnola (Gassnola), a convicted criminal and then Adidas outside counsel, having unfiltered access to the men's basketball program and allowed for Gassnola and Adidas to profoundly influence the institution's recruitment of elite men's basketball student-athletes.

"In fact, Self and Townsend embraced, welcomed and encouraged Gassnola and Adidas' other representatives' impermissible involvement. When boosters commit violations, the membership has clearly spoken through its legislative authority and infractions case precedent that the institutions should be held responsible."

LINK: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...fice-calls-kansas-violations-egregious-severe
 
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And when it’s all said and done the NCAA will slap them on the wrist, give a couple of winks, and say don’t get caught again.
 
Miller is a good one. Didn't he get caught on tape talking about paying players? How does he still have a job?

Because if you ain’t cheatin, you ain’t tryin, and Miller tries harder than almost any coach in America.

Arizona is dirty AF. Just like Kansas. Just like Louisville. Just like any school that hires Bruce Pearl...
 
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We've been hearing about "blue blood" programs forever and how they seemingly are never affected by the NCAA and their rulings. That's the problem really. The NCAA isn't supposed to be a caste system with an untouchable elite level of teams. The are supposed to be the governing body of all member schools and should apply their governance to all schools equally. This obviously is not currently the case, and therefore the NCAA should be held responsible just as the cheating institutions are.

Oh, and I had a good chuckle with the claim that Kansas had a "robust compliance program."
 
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The story that follows is from today. The Jayhawks are charged with five Level I rules violations, the most serious, including lack of institutional control.


NCAA enforcement office calls Kansas' violations 'egregious, severe'

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Mark Schlabach
ESPN Senior Writer
May 7, 2020; 4:38 PM CT



The NCAA enforcement staff said Kansas' basketball program committed "egregious" and "severe" rules violations that "significantly undermine and threaten the NCAA Collegiate Model," and alleged that Jayhawks coach Bill Self and assistant Kurtis Townsend "embraced, welcomed and encouraged" Adidas employees and consultants to influence high-profile recruits to sign with Kansas.

That was the NCAA enforcement staff's position in its 92-page reply to Kansas, which the university released on Thursday. The Jayhawks are charged with five Level I rules violations, the most serious, including lack of institutional control. Self is charged with head-coach responsibility violations.

Under NCAA rules, a head coach could be hit with a show-cause order and be suspended up to an entire season for Level I violations.

Kansas is also charged with two Level II violations and one Level III violation related to the football program under coach David Beaty.

Because of the complexity and severity of the allegations, and Kansas' position regarding Adidas' role, the case might be processed through the independent accountability resolutions process (IARP). An independent resolution panel (IRP), consisting of five independent members with legal, higher education and/or sports backgrounds, would hear the case and decide what penalties the Jayhawks would face. The IRP's decision is final and there are no appeals.

"While the football allegations involve alleged Level II and III violations, which are serious alleged violations, there can be no doubt the men's basketball allegations are egregious, severe and are the kind that significantly undermine and threaten the NCAA Collegiate Model," the NCAA enforcement staff wrote in its reply. "The institution secured significant recruiting and competitive advantages by committing alleged Level I men's basketball violations. The institution, in taking its defiant posture in the case, is indifferent to how its alleged violations may have adversely impacted other NCAA institutions who acted in compliance with NCAA legislation."

Kansas officials, along with Self and Townsend, are disputing each of the five Level I violations regarding the men's basketball program, as well as each of the nine aggravating factors cited by the NCAA.

"The NCAA enforcement staff's reply does not in any way change the University of Kansas' position that the allegations brought against our men's basketball program are simply baseless and littered with false representations," Kansas officials wrote in a statement on Thursday. "As the federal trial proved, Adidas employees intentionally concealed impermissible payments from the University and its coaching staff. The University has never denied these impermissible payments were made. For the NCAA enforcement staff to allege that the University should be held responsible for these payments is a distortion of the facts and a gross misapplication of NCAA Bylaws and case precedent.

"In addition, the enforcement staff's assertion that KU refuses to accept responsibility is wrong. The University absolutely would accept responsibility if it believed that violations had occurred, as we have demonstrated with other self-reported infractions. Chancellor [Doug] Girod, [athletic director] Jeff Long and KU stand firmly behind Coach Self, his staff and our men's basketball program, as well as our robust compliance program."

Adidas and its employees and consultants were at the center of a federal investigation into bribes and other corruption in college basketball. The Jayhawks are the company's flagship program and signed a 14-year, $196 million apparel and sponsorship extension in April 2019.

During a federal trial in October 2018, Adidas executive James Gatto, former Adidas consultant Merl Code and aspiring business manager Christian Dawkins were found guilty on felony charges of wire fraud and conspiracy to commit wire fraud. They are appealing their convictions.

In September 2019, former Adidas consultant T.J. Gassnola was sentenced to probation and fined for his role in pay-for-play schemes to steer recruits to Kansas and other Adidas-sponsored programs.

Gatto was accused of working with Gassnola to facilitate $90,000 from Adidas to former Jayhawks recruit Billy Preston's mother and agreeing to pay $20,000 to Fenny Falmagne, current Kansas player Silvio De Sousa's guardian, to help him "get out from under" a pay-for-play scheme to attend Maryland, which is sponsored by Under Armour.

The NCAA also included allegations that Gassnola provided $15,000 to an unidentified individual to give to the mother of recruit Deandre Ayton, who signed with Arizona, and that Gassnola "communicated in a text message to Self that he had let Self down" when Ayton signed with the Wildcats.

"Regarding the men's basketball allegations, very few facts are in dispute," the NCAA reply said. "The institution does not dispute that Adidas and its employee and consultant provided at least $100,000 to families of three men's basketball student-athletes the institution was recruiting. Bill Self (Self), head men's basketball coach, and Kurtis Townsend (Townsend), assistant men's basketball coach, also do not dispute many of the facts related to Adidas and its representatives having contact with prospects, and that they regularly communicated with Adidas representatives about their recruitment of prospects.

"However, where the parties diverge from the NCAA enforcement staff is on the key issue of responsibility for this conduct. They assert that Adidas and four of its employees or consultants are not representatives of the institution's athletics interests, arguing the enforcement staff's analysis is novel, unprecedented and never previously contemplated by the NCAA membership."

The NCAA enforcement staff contends NCAA membership "feared shoe apparel company involvement and influence in the recruitment of elite student-athletes and then put safeguards into place in an attempt to prevent what occurred in this case."

"The institution failed to control and monitor the relationship between Adidas' representatives with its storied men's basketball program," the NCAA reply said. "This failure led to TJ Gassnola (Gassnola), a convicted criminal and then Adidas outside counsel, having unfiltered access to the men's basketball program and allowed for Gassnola and Adidas to profoundly influence the institution's recruitment of elite men's basketball student-athletes.

"In fact, Self and Townsend embraced, welcomed and encouraged Gassnola and Adidas' other representatives' impermissible involvement. When boosters commit violations, the membership has clearly spoken through its legislative authority and infractions case precedent that the institutions should be held responsible."

LINK: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...fice-calls-kansas-violations-egregious-severe


Just the link would have been fine, dude.
 
We've been hearing about "blue blood" programs forever and how they seemingly are never affected by the NCAA and their rulings. That's the problem really. The NCAA isn't supposed to be a caste system with an untouchable elite level of teams. The are supposed to be the governing body of all member schools and should apply their governance to all schools equally. This obviously is not currently the case, and therefore the NCAA should be held responsible just as the cheating institutions are.

Oh, and I had a good chuckle with the claim that Kansas had a "robust compliance program."
This is what I don't get. Why don't the University presidents and higher ups of all the non blue blood schools ban together, and put a stop to this crap. Are they fine with letting 3 or 4 schools in both football and basketball continue this charade, and pretty much all of them serious cheaters. I realize full well that the main mission of these institutions is not college sports, but there is a great deal of notoriety and money that goes along with all these championships, and you would think at some point they'd be sick of the kind of academic fraud that went on at UNC. I mean the whole reason they didn't face hardly any sanctions, was because they let ALL the students cheat, not just athletes. I mean seriously how can any of these trustees, presidents, provosts or whomever even look in the mirror, as long as they let this charade continue.
 
I hope it is a slap like this...
Good competition there. We used to slap-box when we were kids. (In a cage) with several others leaning against the door so you couldn't get out. I took on the neighborhood toughest guy and my long arms gave me the victory. He made it clear to me that if it was closed fists, I'd be clobbered. I concurred.
 
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watch missouri-KC get put on probation because we can't have a program like kansas getting hit now can we?
Wouldn't be surprised. When the Louisville hooker gate hit the fan, the grad assistant who threw the parties at Louisville was working as an assistant at UMKC. Somehow they dug him up there, like he actually paid for those 20k a night parties on his pocket change stipend, while Pitino claimed the fifth....
 
Fran, if this is new news POST IT ON A NEW THREAD. Please and thank you.


The story that follows is from today. The Jayhawks are charged with five Level I rules violations, the most serious, including lack of institutional control.


NCAA enforcement office calls Kansas' violations 'egregious, severe'

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Mark Schlabach
ESPN Senior Writer
May 7, 2020; 4:38 PM CT



The NCAA enforcement staff said Kansas' basketball program committed "egregious" and "severe" rules violations that "significantly undermine and threaten the NCAA Collegiate Model," and alleged that Jayhawks coach Bill Self and assistant Kurtis Townsend "embraced, welcomed and encouraged" Adidas employees and consultants to influence high-profile recruits to sign with Kansas.

That was the NCAA enforcement staff's position in its 92-page reply to Kansas, which the university released on Thursday. The Jayhawks are charged with five Level I rules violations, the most serious, including lack of institutional control. Self is charged with head-coach responsibility violations.

Under NCAA rules, a head coach could be hit with a show-cause order and be suspended up to an entire season for Level I violations.

Kansas is also charged with two Level II violations and one Level III violation related to the football program under coach David Beaty.

Because of the complexity and severity of the allegations, and Kansas' position regarding Adidas' role, the case might be processed through the independent accountability resolutions process (IARP). An independent resolution panel (IRP), consisting of five independent members with legal, higher education and/or sports backgrounds, would hear the case and decide what penalties the Jayhawks would face. The IRP's decision is final and there are no appeals.

"While the football allegations involve alleged Level II and III violations, which are serious alleged violations, there can be no doubt the men's basketball allegations are egregious, severe and are the kind that significantly undermine and threaten the NCAA Collegiate Model," the NCAA enforcement staff wrote in its reply. "The institution secured significant recruiting and competitive advantages by committing alleged Level I men's basketball violations. The institution, in taking its defiant posture in the case, is indifferent to how its alleged violations may have adversely impacted other NCAA institutions who acted in compliance with NCAA legislation."

Kansas officials, along with Self and Townsend, are disputing each of the five Level I violations regarding the men's basketball program, as well as each of the nine aggravating factors cited by the NCAA.

"The NCAA enforcement staff's reply does not in any way change the University of Kansas' position that the allegations brought against our men's basketball program are simply baseless and littered with false representations," Kansas officials wrote in a statement on Thursday. "As the federal trial proved, Adidas employees intentionally concealed impermissible payments from the University and its coaching staff. The University has never denied these impermissible payments were made. For the NCAA enforcement staff to allege that the University should be held responsible for these payments is a distortion of the facts and a gross misapplication of NCAA Bylaws and case precedent.

"In addition, the enforcement staff's assertion that KU refuses to accept responsibility is wrong. The University absolutely would accept responsibility if it believed that violations had occurred, as we have demonstrated with other self-reported infractions. Chancellor [Doug] Girod, [athletic director] Jeff Long and KU stand firmly behind Coach Self, his staff and our men's basketball program, as well as our robust compliance program."

Adidas and its employees and consultants were at the center of a federal investigation into bribes and other corruption in college basketball. The Jayhawks are the company's flagship program and signed a 14-year, $196 million apparel and sponsorship extension in April 2019.

During a federal trial in October 2018, Adidas executive James Gatto, former Adidas consultant Merl Code and aspiring business manager Christian Dawkins were found guilty on felony charges of wire fraud and conspiracy to commit wire fraud. They are appealing their convictions.

In September 2019, former Adidas consultant T.J. Gassnola was sentenced to probation and fined for his role in pay-for-play schemes to steer recruits to Kansas and other Adidas-sponsored programs.

Gatto was accused of working with Gassnola to facilitate $90,000 from Adidas to former Jayhawks recruit Billy Preston's mother and agreeing to pay $20,000 to Fenny Falmagne, current Kansas player Silvio De Sousa's guardian, to help him "get out from under" a pay-for-play scheme to attend Maryland, which is sponsored by Under Armour.

The NCAA also included allegations that Gassnola provided $15,000 to an unidentified individual to give to the mother of recruit Deandre Ayton, who signed with Arizona, and that Gassnola "communicated in a text message to Self that he had let Self down" when Ayton signed with the Wildcats.

"Regarding the men's basketball allegations, very few facts are in dispute," the NCAA reply said. "The institution does not dispute that Adidas and its employee and consultant provided at least $100,000 to families of three men's basketball student-athletes the institution was recruiting. Bill Self (Self), head men's basketball coach, and Kurtis Townsend (Townsend), assistant men's basketball coach, also do not dispute many of the facts related to Adidas and its representatives having contact with prospects, and that they regularly communicated with Adidas representatives about their recruitment of prospects.

"However, where the parties diverge from the NCAA enforcement staff is on the key issue of responsibility for this conduct. They assert that Adidas and four of its employees or consultants are not representatives of the institution's athletics interests, arguing the enforcement staff's analysis is novel, unprecedented and never previously contemplated by the NCAA membership."

The NCAA enforcement staff contends NCAA membership "feared shoe apparel company involvement and influence in the recruitment of elite student-athletes and then put safeguards into place in an attempt to prevent what occurred in this case."

"The institution failed to control and monitor the relationship between Adidas' representatives with its storied men's basketball program," the NCAA reply said. "This failure led to TJ Gassnola (Gassnola), a convicted criminal and then Adidas outside counsel, having unfiltered access to the men's basketball program and allowed for Gassnola and Adidas to profoundly influence the institution's recruitment of elite men's basketball student-athletes.

"In fact, Self and Townsend embraced, welcomed and encouraged Gassnola and Adidas' other representatives' impermissible involvement. When boosters commit violations, the membership has clearly spoken through its legislative authority and infractions case precedent that the institutions should be held responsible."

LINK: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...fice-calls-kansas-violations-egregious-severe
 
This is one of those cases where the talking heads will sit there and say how much a head coach has complete control of the ins and outs of his program and that's why he's successful.....until they get in trouble like this and suddenly we're to believe the coach had no clue this was happening and we're to forget about how they know all the ins-and-outs of their program.
No doubt, just ask Slick Rick at Louisville. We're all supposed to believe that a GA working for almost nothing was throwing recruit parties with hookers, booze and blow at 10,000 per night, (probably what he's compensated in a year) while Daddy warbucks the head coach didn't bank roll all this and knew absolutely nothing about any of it. Jees..... there are some pretty naive people at the NCAA office, thats all I can say......
 
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You got the top 3 exactly as I would too. Williams has never had to coach for anything but blue blood...Kansas and UNC...and as a result he's an arrogant jerk. Izzo is just a big drama Queen to get his way.
Your list is incomplete without Slick Rick on there........ o_O
 
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