NCAA Placement Matches Thread
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the crazy part is marinelli never chose down when he was beating wick all those times. maybe they just forgot…
Last match of the session, as in, during the placement matches. All of the weight classes wrestle again before he does
Yes, maybe. But sometimes you need to help someone out when they are going to make a bad decision.
Exactly, wtf is the point of a coach in the corner if not for this exact reason?
Strategy over bravado.
Ridiculous argument.
Then why even have coaches?
I don't think Marinelli went down in any of the matches where he beat Wick, but today seemed like a good time to change up a winning strategy?
I am sorry, I love Marinelli but the coaches need to do what's best for the wrestler and the team in those situations.
Yeah I’m amazed no one has gotten seriously hurt this weekend. But these are wrestlers so even if someone did get hurt you probably would not be able to tell. If this year has confirmed anything for me it’s that wrestlers are just different people. Any other sport with a torn ACL they start rolling on the ground, in this sport that same injury just means a knee brace and a Pat on the shoulder.
Keickesen with a late reversal in SV rideout. Challenge, trying to screw him again, but doesn't work. Hidlay chooses both up now.
Without getting in to the debate, I love posts that cause people to ponder their logic and consistency.
Keickesen wins. Kids a beast IMO.
Marinelli owned Wick from his feet, and other than their first meeting I think he got out from bottom OK but could be mistaken. I don't doubt that Wick took top a time or two with his choice but not certain. Bull had his number, he wrestled like shit today and got beat.
If Kerkvilet wins by bonus then that secures PSU the team title. I don't see it against Parris. Only a matter of time though.
no he basically never got out. he would get the takedowns. wick would choose top and bull would lay on his belly and stall to weather the storm. that’s the first time he’s chosen down since the 16-3 drubbing in 2018.
Does anybody wrestle the edge of the mat more than Trent Hidlay? Pops coached him well. Should have been DQ’d for all the backing up.
This is one area in the sport where I really disagree with a lot of people's strategy. People make terrible decisions regarding starting position all the time. In what other sport do people choose to put their opponent in an advantageous position. Don't I want to spend as much time as possible in my best position. People overvalue the escape point and undervalue the opportunity cost in time by ceding the advantage to your opponent. It's terrible strategy.
This reminds me of prospect theory which basically is that losing something hurts more than gaining something equivalent feels good. People look at not going for the escape as a lost point and worry but that they will lose a close match because of it. But fail to consider that choosing down can also cost points in lst opportunity.
How can Cass beat Kerkvliet but lose to Parris?
If that's true then it was indeed a bad choice by whomever made it. Regardless Bull beat him 4 in a row and I don't think they were in doubt much. I don't recall any nail biters anyway.
If Cass would stay off his back early he could beat Parris.
Or hear me out put a table in the center of the mat and award bonus points for breaking the table with your opponent.
Can someone explain to me why they don’t at least have foam or rubber padding on the edges of the scorers tables? No risk management strategy at all.🙄
Up by 2 on ASU for 3rd. Need Austin to win head to head for sure
Our guys have given up an embarrassing amount of back points this tournament. Way too many neutral danger exposures!
We need to start coaching these positions and putting our opponents on the receiving end and learning to bail out when we're in trouble.
Might be safer in the middle in most matches.
Do you honestly think they don’t?
Most of those matches were complete nail biters by my memory!
Edit: looked it up,
Bull won 4-3, 6-4 in SV, 2-1, and 4-2.
I believe the strategy was to get two takedowns in the first period because he was likely to get ridden out if I remember right.
In Iowa city this year. Kerk went upper body.... mistake to try that on Cass. At the bigs in Lincoln. Kerk let go to try and get out of bounds... mistake. In overtime Cass was the aggressor and had a great shot. Cass wrestled smart. Kerk will never go upper body with Cass.
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