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Nebraska Sux Thread
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It's gotta be miserable feeling the constant need to reinforce where you stand on this.
I would think it would be extremely difficult to honor and support people that caused great harm to many innocent lives (regardless of the number years that have passed)...but you make it sound rather easy.
The thing is, its not a burden you have to bear, yet you choose to be a message board crusader. What's strange is that you actually don't appear to truly care about the innocent lives, you only care about tearing down a person and a program, and in doing so, you are using the innocent lives to further your cause. That's what makes your fake outrage so disgusting.
What's even more interesting is that you come over to a Hawkeye fan site to defend guys like Christian Peter and Lawrence Phillips - who did terrible things to many innocent people.....and Tom Osborne (in his divine wisdom) let them stay on the team and continue to play football while they were committing those horrific crimes.
I am starting to better understand that you (and others like you) only care about one thing (winning football games), and if it means some women get sexually assaulted along the way, so be it. Furthermore, I used to think Cooter Cornholer was a character made up by Chris Hassel, but I now believe you (and others like you) might be the inspiration behind Cooter. The only hesitation I have though (about making that comparison), is that Cooter seemed to have more sense than to try to argue - that because it was the 90's, the crimes committed weren't considered as serious. It would be an insult to Cooter to associate that line of thinking with him.
I haven't defended them once. You wish I would and you've tried to bait me into it, but I haven't. If you can find, copy and paste where I have, then I will own it. But you can't, and all that makes you is a pathetic liar.What's even more interesting is that you come over to a Hawkeye fan site to defend guys like Christian Peter and Lawrence Phillips - who did terrible things to many innocent people.....and Tom Osborne (in his divine wisdom) let them stay on the team and continue to play football while they were committing those horrific crimes.
I am starting to better understand that you (and others like you) only care about one thing (winning football games), and if it means some women get sexually assaulted along the way, so be it. Furthermore, I used to think Cooter Cornholer was a character made up by Chris Hassel, but I now believe you (and others like you) might be the inspiration behind Cooter. The only hesitation I have though (about making that comparison), is that Cooter seemed to have more sense than to try to argue - that because it was the 90's, the crimes committed weren't considered as serious. It would be an insult to Cooter to associate that line of thinking with him.
Once again, you don't actually care about the people who were hurt, you are only interested in using them as tools to advance your anti-Osborne and anti-Nebraska.
Too f$cking easy Cooter. Below is a quote I took right from one of your rants. Who are you referring to when you say 'we all realize...' and 'our culture....'?! You are making those statements directly from your perspective and with very little input from the outside world (outside Nebraska). Furthermore, I think you have some serious unconscious bias going on, and have no idea that what you are saying is extremely offensive and are not opinions shared by nearly as many as you think (again, outside Nebraska).
Your quote (see in italics below). By the way, I have to say I love all of the qualifiers you need to include when all you have to do is answer a yes or no question - on whether Tom Osborne was in the wrong when he allowed criminals like Phillips and Peter to remain on the team. Also, I am truly fascinated by the statement - What I'm saying is that our culture, for right or wrong, found it less unacceptable. Who's culture are you talking about?! Tom Osborne's culture? I grew-up through the 90's (in Iowa) and was never raised to think that any part of sexual assault was acceptable - at any level. There wasn't anything that made it more acceptable back then, than today..sexual assault was/is sexual assault.
'I will say that, while it's never okay, I do think Osborne handles the situation differently in today's climate. If people are being honest with themselves, we all realize this type of thing was treated with a different level of respect and sensitivity 20-30 years ago than it is today. It deserves respect and sensitivity, so please don't think I'm saying it was okay back then or minimizing it. What I'm saying is that our culture, for right or wrong, found it less unacceptable. Today, the players and coach would be burnt toast. Back then, it was a smaller blip on the radar.'
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Good lord. Did you have some sort of relationship with the victims? It's a pointless argument because you have a stance, and you won't budge from it. That's fine, but jeez buddy relax. It's 30 years ago.
If I might ask, what is your thoughts on DUIs? Are they just acceptable when you don't hurt anyone? Before you spout anything else out, Keith Williams should have been fired in my opinion, and that was definitely a black eye especially because it was his 3rd one.
You're not very smart, are you. When I say culture, I mean American culture. As a whole. It was treated with much less seriousness and care years ago than it is now. It wasn't pursued like it is now. Guys would get slaps on the wrist or it would be swept under the rug then, but it won't anymore. Are you so dense that you don't understand that corporate culture for a very long time has ignored sex assualt claims? It's not right, I'm simply pointing out that sexual abuse was not treated with the same care that it is now. That's why you see people coming out of the woodwork now with sexual abuse and assault allegations from 10-40 years ago. Because our culture didn't care nearly as much about it as it should have back then. That's the point I was making, and I wasn't using it to defend Osborne. I said I think he would have made a different decision today than he would have back then, because it was a different time.
I didn't make an excuse for what they did. I even said Osborne took risks on them on it backfired on him, thus it was a mistake. I've never once defended them for what they did. I've always talked about how Osborne believed he was doing what he thought was right to help LP have a chance at leading a productive life. This is what Osborne says about how he handled LPs situation. The article doesn't mention that this is what LP's counselor suggested to TO when TO was ready to kick him off the team.
'Twenty years later, Osborne says this, “I thought what offered Lawrence some cohesion and stability was football. When he had the incident in Lincoln, I felt that if we just cast him aside he’d probably end up in the streets in California. And the one thing that had constantly given him a chance would be to have him stay in counseling, which we said, 'If you stay in counseling, go to class and continue to work on your education, then we’ll give you a chance to have you back.' That’s why we did it that way because I felt like otherwise it was going to be a really bad situation. So he complied with everything and I thought when he when he left Lincoln he was in pretty good shape. The counseling had really been helpful to him. Didn’t miss any classes. Stayed away from the athletic department. Wasn’t even around the weight room or training table for six weeks. He responded well."'
This from Osborne after LP went to prison and killed his cellmate:
'Osborne said Phillips was given a list of conditions, including weekly counseling and a psychological evaluation, that he had to meet to be considered for reinstatement, which Phillips met. The coach insisted, as he has in the past, that Phillips was not reinstated to “win” football games but because he “needed” the structure and support that football provided him.
'“He is the greatest single failure that I have had as a coach,” Osborne said.'
Doesn't really fit with the axe you have to grind.
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You have a serious blind spot. You're not talking about a collective American culture, you're talking about the Nebraska Go Big Red (win at all costs) culture. Get out of Nebraska, and you will realize that your views are NOT shared by nearly as many as you think.
I have lived in two small, rural Midwest towns in different states, each of less than 1,000 people and also in one of the largest cities in the country. I have degrees from two different schools. I've lived in 4 states in a mix of rural, urban and suburban settings. I've visited 10 European countries (Belgium, France, Ireland, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Italy, Poland, Romania, and Hungary). My diversity of experience is pretty broad. Likely moreso than yours.
I grew up in a small town, have lived across the country in 4 major cities (still live in one) and have been overseas multiple times. I also have two degrees - from two different schools. So no, I think it’s very unlikely that you’ve had more diverse experiences in your life. In addition to suffering from a major blind spot, I also think your ego clouds your opinions and judgement - i.e. you try to make the case that you know more than you actually do.
Nobody even remembers or equates Nebraska with trophies anymore, other than fusker fans.
But Iowa team essentially kicked Snyder off the team, so what’s your point?You're drunk again.
Yet you chose now to live in Nebraska and/or be a fan of the Cornhuskers!?! Gotta question your judgement after all that supposed extensive diversity/travel that u did.
Says the jackwagon who comes to the teams that's whipped your ass the last three years with nothing more than hope of crawling back to average. Think about how low you have gotten that you have to try and talk smack here.
This thread is great. Haven’t been able to find threads like these since the B12 days on Missouri or K-State message boards, the similarities are fantastic. Keep up the good work, gents.
Try to keep up with the conversation. What smack is it that I'm talking? I didn't come here talking smack, I told a guy who drops the same flame in ever thread that his point has been noted, he has been heard. Now we can continue with various conversations rather than having him sidebar every one of them with his little crusade against Osborne.
I figured, even before you posted this, that you’ve never been to the Far East. You just have always seemed so small minded. Get out & experience the world before you die!
Take it easy on ThrowBones92. He's pretty much one of the only level headed Husker non-trolls on here. There are plenty of other Nebubba asshats to fight with.
Thanks. I appreciate that. I'll try to avoid some of the trolls on this end as well. Will keep it more peaceful for all of us. Apologize for the disruption.
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