Those pervertsMaybe they should introduce a bill that bans sex education in grades K-3 at least. So far they are only banning talk of sexual orientation and gender identity. I guess sex talk is ok with them.
Those pervertsMaybe they should introduce a bill that bans sex education in grades K-3 at least. So far they are only banning talk of sexual orientation and gender identity. I guess sex talk is ok with them.
Those perverts
Which lesson is that? What grade level?From the lesson plans...
"Gender identity is that feeling of knowing your gender. You might feel like you are a boy, you might feel like you are a girl. You might feel like you’re a boy even if you have body parts that some people might tell you are ‘girl’ parts. You might feel like you’re a girl even if you have body parts that some people might tell you are ‘boy’ parts."
So, we aren't telling kids that vaginas and penises are girls and boys parts anymore? That seems pretty stupid, no?
How does a boy know that he feels like a girl? He has no way of telling how that feels? And if this is the case, can they feel like something else?
What grade level would that be appropriate for?Which lesson is that? What grade level?
This is happening in New Jersey because the state enacted a measure in 2019 to require LGBTQ-inclusive teachings in all subject areas. Teachers are teaching what is expected by their state.Didn't read the entire thread.
https://uproxx.com/viral/jen-psaki-peter-doocy-dont-say-gay-bill/
I guess Doocy's point was valid after all, and the thread ridiculing him here was a little misplaced.
Why are you against gays?Is there smoking allowed in the transition closet? My god liberals have lost their minds
I don't know, but I don't think it's appropriate for all students in K-2.What grade level would that be appropriate for?
This is not appropriate in any school. This is crazy talk.I don't know, but I don't think it's appropriate for all students in K-2.
Let's see if Faulty provides the lesson and grade level so I can see what standard it is supposed to meet before I defend a grade level. I think the lesson plans in the Dropbox link are sample lessons from a different program that someone (teacher curriculum director, etc.) has attempted to match with the NJ standards. Often states set standards, but don't provide materials for curriculum so that leaves teachers, curriculum directors, administrators scrambling to find materials that meet the standards. Textbooks often don't exist that meet the standards the experts set.This is not appropriate in any school. This is crazy talk.
You might feel like you are a boy, you might feel like you are a girl. You might feel like you’re a boy even if you have body parts that some people might tell you are ‘girl’ parts. You might feel like you’re a girl even if you have body parts that some people might tell you are ‘boy’ parts."
If this is what got you to finally start paying attention to your kids education then you were a simple target for the politicians.The best part of this is that parents are actually starting to pay attention to what is happening at school with their kids.
What makes me chuckle here is in fact, we really aren’t bombarded with sex. people should take advantage of streaming and watch international shows, and not the edited for tv stuff we see. Hilarious what’s allowed in Europe or Asia content-wise but blocked here.Think in small town Iowa it was the 6th grade in the 80's. Society bombards us with sex now more than ever. I had to hunt for porn and sneak skinamax time. Now everything is a click or two away. Probably should be starting a bit earlier. How much not a damn clue.
Of course not for nearly every kid at that age. I’m guessing a surprising amount have heard the terms somewhere and then use it themselves and/or ask about it. Kids at that age are sponges and soak up some much from adults around them without the grownups ever realizing.Sheltered? Really? You're going to tell me that at age 8 you were focused on your sexual identity? Hell, my son (age 8) is focused on Poke'mon, soccer, and throwing fits when I tell him its time to take out the trash. Now, he does like to tell me my farts stink and thinks it's hilarious when another kiddo lets a fart out at the Dojo when it's otherwise dead silent. I have yet to have him mention nailing the boy or girl on the school bus.
If this is what got you to finally start paying attention to your kids education then you were a simple target for the politicians.
So simple ... let children be children.
And now, for your viewing pleasure (and to make lib's heads really explode) a Bible verse!
"Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven." Matthew 18: 3-4
While keeping in mind children here are being held up for their virtousness in lacking pride, haughtiness, and foul ambition. Right?I would say Christians are doing an excellent job becoming like children.
While keeping in mind children here are being held up for their virtousness in lacking pride, haughtiness, and foul ambition. Right?
It’s from the “Pink, Blue, Purple” lesson for 1st graders. 2nd page. It’s the end of “Step One”.Let's see if Faulty provides the lesson and grade level so I can see what standard it is supposed to meet before I defend a grade level. I think the lesson plans in the Dropbox link are sample lessons from a different program that someone (teacher curriculum director, etc.) has attempted to match with the NJ standards. Often states set standards, but don't provide materials for curriculum so that leaves teachers, curriculum directors, administrators scrambling to find materials that meet the standards. Textbooks often don't exist that meet the standards the experts set.
I would think most in the audience understand children can be spoiled brats and so forth, but also appreciate the innocence of youth and can connect that quality to the verse.Well, if you take it like that the quip doesn't work so well. The joke relies on the audience understanding there's another way people are compared to children which isn't about virtue. It's a dad joke, basically.
I'm guessing you tacked on "developed" nation to exclude a few billion Muslims?LOL at this entire thread. The United States is the most - by FAR - sexually f'ed up developed nation on the planet. And it shows in our teen pregnancy numbers and our infant mortality rates.
LOL we are not even teaching 1st graders to tuck. We’re so lame!LOL at this entire thread. The United States is the most - by FAR - sexually f'ed up developed nation on the planet. And it shows in our teen pregnancy numbers and our infant mortality rates.
I see it now. It's a suggested response for a child responding to the question “How do you know what gender you are?” with "I just know." I really don't think 2nd graders would respond that way.It’s from the “Pink, Blue, Purple” lesson for 1st graders. 2nd page. It’s the end of “Step One”.
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Or democrats protect and push freak show agenda stuff.Republicans create imaginary bullshit story lines and the "both siders" shake their heads and wag their fingers at the Democrats.
No wonder our democracy is backsliding.
I gotta say I appreciate the thoughtfulness of your posts, your open-mindedness on many items, and civility in general. Maybe there is something to "toxic masculinity," lol.Personally I hated scripted lesson plans. It felt so fake to me so I very rarely followed them to the letter.
Back to the lesson, no I don't think that is an appropriate response to the answer "I just know." I would have followed up with the question "How do you know?" I anticipate the answers would have be something like "I love trucks" or "I love to play with dolls." Then I would have encouraged a discussion about whether girls can like trucks or boys can like dolls, etc.
I think you are illustrating the dangers of having these discussions in an elementary environment to begin with.I see it now. It's a suggested response for a child responding to the question “How do you know what gender you are?” with "I just know." I really don't think 2nd graders would respond that way.
Personally I hated scripted lesson plans. It felt so fake to me so I very rarely followed them to the letter.
Back to the lesson, no I don't think that is an appropriate response to the answer "I just know." I would have followed up with the question "How do you know?" I anticipate the answers would have be something like "I love trucks" or "I love to play with dolls." Then I would have encouraged a discussion about whether girls can like trucks or boys can like dolls, etc.
I think my response would be more in line with the NJ standard for 2nd grade which reads:
2.1.2SSH.2–Discuss the range of ways people express their gender and how gender-role stereotypes may limit behavior
These Dropbox lessons don't seem to always align with the grade level standards for NJ. I would think that if these are the required lessons for teaching, Rights, Respect, Responsibility: A K-12 Curriculum, we could access them someplace more official than a Dropbox folder.
What if the kids bring it up? Should teachers improvise or should they be prepared to handle these things? Teachers can't really predict what they're getting for students and some of them hear things when they're little. This isn't gender/sex/sexuality, but we could have had a CRT panic when I was a 2nd grader. A classmate of mine blurted out the n-word and our teacher had to change directions and have an n-word lesson with her classroom full of white private school children she otherwise might be sending out unaware of what had just happened. We didn't know what the word was in 2nd grade and our classmate obviously didn't either except that it was something he'd associated with blurting out in anger (he was frustrated with a worksheet). Should teachers be shooting from the hip when this happens? I don't think ignoring it is a great idea.I think you are illustrating the dangers of having these discussions in an elementary environment to begin with.
You tell them to talk to their parents about it. Simple. Those teachers are not responsible for raising those kids, they are responsible for teaching them social studies. Stay in your lane.What if the kids bring it up? Should teachers improvise or should they be prepared to handle these things? Teachers can't really predict what they're getting for students and some of them hear things when they're little. This isn't gender/sex/sexuality, but we could have had a CRT panic when I was a 2nd grader. A classmate of mine blurted out the n-word and our teacher had to change directions and have an n-word lesson with her classroom full of white private school children she otherwise might be sending out unaware of what had just happened. We didn't know what the word was in 2nd grade and our classmate obviously didn't either except that it was something he'd associated with blurting out in anger (he was frustrated with a worksheet). Should teachers be shooting from the hip when this happens? I don't think ignoring it is a great idea.
I'm a urologist and my wife's a gynecologist. My 8 year old (now 10) asked where babies come from. I took him to this video. I turned off the sound and simplified the narrative. I explained how it was so amazing he existed because the dad parts don't always make it to the mom parts. So far my son hasn't become a man whore and seems pretty well adjusted.I'm telling you, the focus the left is putting on teaching children about sex is ****ing weird.
I respect and defend your parental right to explain a video about reproduction in your terms to your son.I'm a urologist and my wife's a gynecologist. My 8 year old (now 10) asked where babies come from. I took him to this video. I turned off the sound and simplified the narrative. I explained how it was so amazing he existed because the dad parts don't always make it to the mom parts. So far my son hasn't become a man whore and seems pretty well adjusted.
It's amazing what kids can understand if you just tell them the truth. It's better than some stupid stork story or when a mommy and daddy love each other they pick up a baby at the hospital.
Lol, I did catch that in there..... It's pretty easy, most of the time the terms gender and sex mean the same. If you want to get down to brass tacks/strict definition, sex is the biological determination and gender is the social. Not shocked that the two correlate 95% of the time.I respect and defend your parental right to explain a video about reproduction in your terms to your son.
Btw, I hope you didn't repeat the hideous comment about gender being determined at conception 😉.
What the heck, you got a running ticker tape in your house of sex/gender correlation? You had it at 98% and then dropped it to 95%. You making money off this? 😉Lol, I did catch that in there..... It's pretty easy, most of the time the terms gender and sex mean the same. If you want to get down to brass tacks/strict definition, sex is the biological determination and gender is the social. Not shocked that the two correlate 95% of the time.
Like everything, the talking heads like to make it sound like the 5% is a big deal. I just run around with two priorities: kindness and leaving people along. Both with make this miserable rock a better place to live.
I think the concept of gender idenity is a little too complex most children in K-2. I am having a hard time understanding how the lessons from the Dropbox folder align with the standards for NJ. The state did enact a measure to include 2019 to require LGBTQ-inclusive teachings in all subject areas at the 5-12 level, but the standards from the OP article are for Health and Physical Education.I think you are illustrating the dangers of having these discussions in an elementary environment to begin with.
Thanks for the complement. I try to be respectful to everyone on HROT even when I strongly disagree with them. I do think you "guys" enjoy being a little more confrontational than most women, but I wouldn't call it toxic masculinity.I gotta say I appreciate the thoughtfulness of your posts, your open-mindedness on many items, and civility in general. Maybe there is something to "toxic masculinity," lol.
On the one hand I like the comment about not being fake and going off-script as necessary. But on a subject as sensitive as this, to many that could be a negative depending on your POV.
On the second thing I'll just ask you: why should there be a classroom discussion by 2nd-graders about gender topics? Blind leading the blind, seems to me.
To your credit you seem to want to spoon feed these topics right up to the point it's too much. I just don't think it has to be so perilously calibrated when they don't need any of this for several years more. My two cents.