New Overtime Exec Order Coming
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How can you? You'd be disagreeing with yourself.
For the record, I am not a self-made man, I never made a lot of money, and I was never paid a nickel for overtime at any time in my working life.
Again, you are demonstrating that you are a poor candidate to be a lawyer. If you understood anything about evidence, you would understand that finding and posting pictures of the NYC skyline does not prove that you are working there, or that you go to law school.
You should seriously rethink this career choice.
Wrong again...that is the median WAGE, which includes hourly workers (including part time, minimum wage jobs). The median salary is higher.
Your prospects as a lawyer are not good.
Edited because there's no sense in putting so much personal info out there. Hope you saw how wrong you were.
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I'm not going to post pictures from the skyline, because it could be a tell for which office I'm working at. Let's just say I'm pretty comfortable with where I sit.
I don't feel that everyone should be paid a stock salary.
I feel there should be a stock baseline (there already is) for when you get cease to be paid overtime, and that baseline should be higher. I think there is a distinction there, as nothing in that proposal would prevent someone from making $60,000, $100,000, or $1,000,000, based on their abilities and talents.
I apparently don't understand you, because I don't see how this statement relates to anything I wrote.
There you go with the "feelings" again. You should try thinking instead of feeling. Also, you need to work on your writing. I'm sure a senior partner will be impressed with your argument that there should be a "stock baseline....for when you get cease to be paid overtime,.." That is a good one.
Lol. That's what I get for trying to do work and argue with your dumb ass at the same time.
As I've said, I'm comfortable of where I am. My firm likes me, and is going to pay me handsomely, and that's all that matters to me.
LOL. Also, if you want to be an attorney, you should learn to not end your sentences with a preposition. That is a tell for someone who can't write.
It was a screenshot of this thread, side by side with my grades from NU. I felt it was too personal and proving you wrong wasn't worth having so much personal information out there.
Lol. It's called a message board, dickwad. I write a bit differently on here than in practice.
Selfish bastard...you were just telling us about how much you care for the downtrodden and disadvantaged. Now its all about you getting paid.
I don't feel that everyone should be paid a stock salary.
I feel there should be a stock baseline (there already is) for when you get cease to be paid overtime, and that baseline should be higher. I think there is a distinction there, as nothing in that proposal would prevent someone from making $60,000, $100,000, or $1,000,000, based on their abilities and talents.
Hopefully this clarifies it.
Again, you must have done poorly in evidence class. Posting that screen shot does nothing other than to prove anything about you. Does it?
A- in evidence.
And posting it proves that I go to NU law, which was in reply to this statement when I said I went to NU Law and am working in NYC this summer.
Lol. You must be giving me a hell of a lot of credit to doctor a screenshot of a NU Law Caesar page in 4 minutes of time...
With that, I've actually got some work to do today. Maybe you can post which firm you're at? I'll send you a transcript.
Make it $35k and if you work over 50 hours in a week.
Sure some people are destined to have less. I see no reason to have corporations feed on them by forcing them to work 60 hour weeks for 25 grand.
Corporations can be just as evil as individuals can be lazy. Nothing is as black and white as some like to think it is.
Sure some people are destined to have less. I see no reason to have corporations feed on them by forcing them to work 60 hour weeks for 25 grand.
Corporations can be just as evil as individuals can be lazy. Nothing is as black and white as some like to think it is.
Not surprising you would not understand this, given your lack of experience.
The most likely response to this proposal would be a combination of the following: One, in most cases it will create an incentive for employers to pay a lower salary, because of the prospect of having to pay overtime. Second, it will encourage employers to avoid overtime by hiring a second manager, or two part time managers, to avoid the overtime. It will make it more difficult for the bright, energetic manager to work long hours, get promotions, move up the ladder and make more money. It creates and legislates mediocrity.
Just like Obamacare has created a whole new category of part time employees know and the "29ers". Employers have created a new category of employee to avoid the costs of government mandated health care for employees. This has acted as a ceiling, and is keeping people from full employment and higher earnings. It is what happens when you level playing field types get their way.
Haha. Nah. He and I have argued on this website for far too long. I am just going to chalk it up to differences of opinion and two stubborn assholes.
Tell us how a corporation "forces" one to work 60 hours a week for $25k? Also, you realize that most fast food restaurants are owned by individual franchisees, not the corporation?
Where does the force come from again?
I mean, was there a judge involved? Did he rule that it was "either this, or prison?"
You can only rescue people from there own decisions so much. If those were the conditions of employment when you accepted, then that is on you.
What is stopping them from doing that now? If that is economically viable at this moment, what about this proposal makes it even more enticing?
I also think there "doomsday" situations of having to pay someone OT who works 4-5 hours of OT a few times a year are pretty silly. You just pay them the OT. It's not going to affect things one way or the other.
You going to any games this year? I'll bring this with me to whatever game(s) I come back to. It's on a notepad from my firm with my name printed at the bottom. At least then we can put that much to rest.
If I'm understanding you, does this mean you also want OT to stop being paid to non-exempt employees once they hit $50K?
Single parent working as a store manager for a Pizza Hut carry out chain. Working long hours six days a week. Her other option is to work at same store part time with no benefits. Kids wants the chance to play little league with a glove and shoes like everybody else.
Force isn't always a legal thing it is more often a life thing.
I swear some of you don't get out much or have young kids in melting pot social economic situations.
Why can't a place pay somebody to work if they asking them to average 10-20 hours of overtime a week as part of their job description.
Again I never vote democrat in national election. I just see so many people being put in awful situations all under the bs of being management.
Force isn't always a legal thing it is more often a life thing.
I swear some of you don't get out much or have young kids in melting pot social economic situations.
Why can't a place pay somebody to work if they asking them to average 10-20 hours of overtime a week as part of their job description.
Again I never vote democrat in national election. I just see so many people being put in awful situations all under the bs of being management.
It takes away their freedom and flexibility to base compensation of true production and not just hours. For example, if one manager is very good and efficient, and get a good deal of work done in 40 hours, while a manager like (you for example) would take an additional 15 hours to do the same work, this proposal would reward the poorer worker. Owners and upper management understand this, and will try to avoid a situation where they have to pay OT to slow, inefficient and unproductive workers. I can't believe you don't understand this.
So now it is the company fault that she chose to get married and have a kid when not financially stable and independent. I guess the company forced her to make a bad decision on a having a child out of wedlock, or choosing a bad mate.
You don't understand force.
