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I like this guys potential. He could be a bigtime player for the Hawks in a few years. Welcome to the Hawkeye football Kristian!Well....6'4" 220 pound bodies that can run 4.52 are hard to come by. Let's put our faith in Doyle that he can add 30 pounds to this kid and take .1 or better off of that forty....and then you have something
Its really sad that the posters here who apparently detest Ferentz feel the need to slam just about any new recruit who commits to play football at the University of Iowa but is not ranked high enough by Rivals to meet their satisfaction, or based on the quality of their offer list. I would be the first to admit that the rankings and offers have some value but they don't tell the whole story.
The interesting part is this: almost inevitably, the posters who do this know virtually nothing about the recruits they denigrate. They never met them, have never seen them play, did not observe or evaluate them at camps and/or workouts. Never conducted any background with his coaches, etc.
So you get the back-handed insult - "flat-out stud". Or the "broken hearted FCS schools" knock to show that this guy is lousy. Fact is, no one knows for sure, right now, whether Kristian Welch will be a bust or whether he will develop into a star player, or something in between.
Nathan Bazata's only other offer was South Dakota State and he is listed as a starting DT as a sophomore. Same with Ben Niemann who, besides Iowa, listed 3 other FCS school offers and he presently is listed as a starting LB also. There are other examples as well.
Do we know for sure that Bazata and/ or Niemann will excel as starters? NO! - and that's the point - you can't honestly evaluate a recruit until they have a body of work to judge. Same for Welch. Maybe it would be better to save any conclusive judgments, especially derogatory comments, until you see them play as a Hawkeye .... 2,3, or 4 years from now.
Name dropping starters on a mediocre to low Power 5 team with no offers isn't helping to prove your point. If anything, it shows how bad recruiting has been. The cupboard is not bare, but we've been short on groceries for a while.
Its really sad that the posters here who apparently detest Ferentz feel the need to slam just about any new recruit who commits to play football at the University of Iowa but is not ranked high enough by Rivals to meet their satisfaction, or based on the quality of their offer list. I would be the first to admit that the rankings and offers have some value but they don't tell the whole story.
The interesting part is this: almost inevitably, the posters who do this know virtually nothing about the recruits they denigrate. They never met them, have never seen them play, did not observe or evaluate them at camps and/or workouts. Never conducted any background with his coaches, etc.
So you get the back-handed insult - "flat-out stud". Or the "broken hearted FCS schools" knock to show that this guy is lousy. Fact is, no one knows for sure, right now, whether Kristian Welch will be a bust or whether he will develop into a star player, or something in between.
Nathan Bazata's only other offer was South Dakota State and he is listed as a starting DT as a sophomore. Same with Ben Niemann who, besides Iowa, listed 3 other FCS school offers and he presently is listed as a starting LB also. There are other examples as well.
Do we know for sure that Bazata and/ or Niemann will excel as starters? NO! - and that's the point - you can't honestly evaluate a recruit until they have a body of work to judge. Same for Welch. Maybe it would be better to save any conclusive judgments, especially derogatory comments, until you see them play as a Hawkeye .... 2,3, or 4 years from now.
Its really sad that the posters here who apparently detest Ferentz feel the need to slam just about any new recruit who commits to play football at the University of Iowa but is not ranked high enough by Rivals to meet their satisfaction, or based on the quality of their offer list. I would be the first to admit that the rankings and offers have some value but they don't tell the whole story.
The interesting part is this: almost inevitably, the posters who do this know virtually nothing about the recruits they denigrate. They never met them, have never seen them play, did not observe or evaluate them at camps and/or workouts. Never conducted any background with his coaches, etc.
So you get the back-handed insult - "flat-out stud". Or the "broken hearted FCS schools" knock to show that this guy is lousy. Fact is, no one knows for sure, right now, whether Kristian Welch will be a bust or whether he will develop into a star player, or something in between.
Nathan Bazata's only other offer was South Dakota State and he is listed as a starting DT as a sophomore. Same with Ben Niemann who, besides Iowa, listed 3 other FCS school offers and he presently is listed as a starting LB also. There are other examples as well.
Do we know for sure that Bazata and/ or Niemann will excel as starters? NO! - and that's the point - you can't honestly evaluate a recruit until they have a body of work to judge. Same for Welch. Maybe it would be better to save any conclusive judgments, especially derogatory comments, until you see them play as a Hawkeye .... 2,3, or 4 years from now.
Go root for ISUI'm sure about 3 of the 18 verbals with no other offers will turn out to be good players. So 3 of the 18 underated kids plus the 3 kids that have verballed that have solid offers gives Iowa 6 decent players in the class. You need more than 6 players in a class to make a solid program and given Iowa's history, 1 or 2 of the kids with decent offers will end up leaving the program. I'm just looking at past history.
I'll be the first to admit I like a stacked offers list, that said. With his size, and if the speed is legit, great get.He reminds me of AJ Edds
He won't need to. With a few more classes like this we'll be right there. (I love it when someone tells another to go root for another school when the said person is not happy that we rank 14 out of 14 B1G schools in avg star ranking.)Go root for ISU
Agreed. The difference between 2.62 and 3 is like a chasm. A hopeless abyss.He won't need to. With a few more classes like this we'll be right there. (I love it when someone tells another to go root for another school when the said person is not happy that we rank 14 out of 14 B1G schools in avg star ranking.)
Slow players, predictable offense, not knowing what to do on an onside kick, clock management.....yawnStars. Yawn. You guys are like the opposite Kilroy
Prove my point? Let me slow it down for you a little.
Nathan Bazata was lightly recruited (no other Division 1 offers, only other offer was an FCS school, SDSU). Bazata has won a starting position at DT over a Rivals 4-star recruit, namely: Faith Ekakatie. Ekakatie was heavily recruited and had a long list of BCS offers (Arizona, Wisconsin, Oregon, Stanford, West Virgina, Georgia Tech, and many others). By any measure, Ekakatie was not a bad recruit.
My point was pretty clear: no one knows for sure how any recruit will develop and evaluation only makes sense after they suit-up as a Hawkeye, compete on the field and accumulate a body of work.
Here is what we know: right now, coaches have determined that lightly recruited Nathan Bazata is a better player than highly recruited Faith Ekakatie. And just so you know, you won't be able to convince me that you are a better talent evaluator than Reese Morgan.
Kid is way underrated. Probably because he didn't go to camps. But for that size to have that kind of athletic ability he should be rated higher. 247 has him as a high 3 star and one of Iowa's top recruits.
This is what 247's Barton Simmons said about Welch. He is the director of scouting for them.
"Welch out of Iola (Wisc.) Iola-Scandanavia is a guy I've been fascinated by of late. At just over 6-2, and in that 220 pound range, Welch could project as a "move" tight end, an H-back or a linebacker on the next level. At Iowa's camp, he ran a sub-4.6 in the 40 at that size but that wasn't a flukey athletic performance. He also happens to be one of the top long-jumper in Wisconsin and has jumped just under 23 feet at 22-10.5. That's a ridiculous number for a jumbo athlete. While Welch had offers from the likes of Bowling Green and South Dakota State, the Hawkeyes are now the clear team to beat with their offer. Hailing from a small school in a lightly trafficked state, it's no surprise that his offer list is limited but Welch looks like a big-time find by the Iowa staff."
Hopefully in 2 years Bielema will be thanking Kirk for recruiting this kid.
Slow players? The Hawks have signed/committed more speed in the last 3 classes than probably the last 10 years combined.Slow players, predictable offense, not knowing what to do on an onside kick, clock management.....yawn
He reminds me of AJ Edds
Derpy derp derp...AJ Edds was a 4 star, US Army All American with offers from the who's who of college football. This guy is a 2 star with one power 5 conference offer, Iowa. What, other than the fact that this kid is white, is it about him that reminds you of Edds?
Ask Tennessee how our speed is working out for usSlow players? The Hawks have signed/committed more speed in the last 3 classes than probably the last 10 years combined.
This kid that just committed ran a 4.52.
Ask Tennessee how our speed is working out for us
Its really sad that the posters here who apparently detest Ferentz feel the need to slam just about any new recruit who commits to play football at the University of Iowa but is not ranked high enough by Rivals to meet their satisfaction, or based on the quality of their offer list. I would be the first to admit that the rankings and offers have some value but they don't tell the whole story.
The interesting part is this: almost inevitably, the posters who do this know virtually nothing about the recruits they denigrate. They never met them, have never seen them play, did not observe or evaluate them at camps and/or workouts. Never conducted any background with his coaches, etc.
So you get the back-handed insult - "flat-out stud". Or the "broken hearted FCS schools" knock to show that this guy is lousy. Fact is, no one knows for sure, right now, whether Kristian Welch will be a bust or whether he will develop into a star player, or something in between.
Nathan Bazata's only other offer was South Dakota State and he is listed as a starting DT as a sophomore. Same with Ben Niemann who, besides Iowa, listed 3 other FCS school offers and he presently is listed as a starting LB also. There are other examples as well.
Do we know for sure that Bazata and/ or Niemann will excel as starters? NO! - and that's the point - you can't honestly evaluate a recruit until they have a body of work to judge. Same for Welch. Maybe it would be better to save any conclusive judgments, especially derogatory comments, until you see them play as a Hawkeye .... 2,3, or 4 years from now.