#1 Belmont in the OVC went down and #1 Winthrop of the Big South is in OT.. I know we're all thinking about NCAAs but just a nugget of info..
NIT Bids Taken
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Winthrop held on, so Belmont is the only NIT automatic bid so far. I'm not nearly as worried about getting into the NIT as a few days ago, but still something to follow.
I agree any postseason will go along ways with a young team and with the way they are playing I could see them winning the NIT. With Fran sometimes going 12 deep most teams are tired this time of year I don't see this team wearing down, just getting better. Which also makes me think we have a chance to win the BTT really the only team that scares me is Purdue, i know we beat them but we played amazing that game maybe the best game all season.
Good to hear they held on to win. One more spot open in the NIT(where most likely we will be in).
I'm glad other fans are having fun with this season as I am, I just see this team being really good in the next 4 years or more. Next season I think we will be around a 5-7 seed. Then 2-4 seed when these freshman are juniors, and seniors.
Good to hear they held on to win. One more spot open in the NIT(where most likely we will be in).
I'm glad other fans are having fun with this season as I am, I just see this team being really good in the next 4 years or more. Next season I think we will be around a 5-7 seed. Then 2-4 seed when these freshman are juniors, and seniors.
Even if we lose the next two games we would be in the NIT. Almost any winning record gets a big 5 conf team in.
What was Northwesterns B10 record last year? Weren't they 9-9? And someone said they didn't get in. It's all up to those stupid small conference tournaments. If there are a bunch of upsets and Iowa losses their next 2 they will probably be left out.
Iowa still needs to keep taking care of business, yes. Assume nothing is guaranteed, which is the way they've been playing.
Only thing to worry about is a try hard Penn State coming in with a try hard mentality (Illinois' motto under Groce) and Iowa letting them do what they want.
Anything more than that from Iowa, though, and they should be fine.
Only thing to worry about is a try hard Penn State coming in with a try hard mentality (Illinois' motto under Groce) and Iowa letting them do what they want.
Anything more than that from Iowa, though, and they should be fine.
That's the old NIT, which was changed several years ago. It used to be that way, where they were solely looking for best ratings and attendance. But they changed up the selection process several years ago (probably a good thing), that makes it much harder to get into. First of all, any regular season champion not selected for the NCAA gets an automatic bid to the NIT, which is why Belmont is being discussed - they are now an NIT automatic. This can possibly take up 8-12 of the 32 bids, depending how the conference tournaments go. The remaining teams are picked using similar criteria to the NCAA. So just having a winning record and playing in a power 5 conference will not get it done by itself.
That being said, with the two road wins of the last week and now being in the NCAA discussion, an NIT bid seems very probable now since they would be much higher in the at large pool. A win against Penn State would seemingly remove any doubt, if there was any now.
The way I see it is:
0 wins: NIT bubble
1 win: NIT lock but probably a low seed
2 wins: NIT lock with plenty of home court chances
3 wins: NCAA
0 wins: NIT bubble
1 win: NIT lock but probably a low seed
2 wins: NIT lock with plenty of home court chances
3 wins: NCAA
Committee changed their view on this with unbalanced schedules! However I still think it has some weight.. sure doesn't hurt when you're up against some ACC team with a 7-11 conference record
I like the smaller tourneys! I think that is what makes march so enjoyable! UNI would not have been in last year if they did not win the MVC and i always root for the 13-16 seeds except when they play Iowa of course.
I know, but look at other conferences. There are not a whole lot of options to choose from. I suppose the NIT could load up on the Mid-majors, but those places don't draw too much $$. Having a Power 5 team in the NIT is good. The Big Ten will get 2-3 teams in the NIT that missed the Big Dance. RPI is also used and Iowa is sitting at the 70's mark, which will be more than enough to get into the NIT.
If Iowa is 18-14 they will be in the NIT.
19-14 NIT/NCAA Bubble/Last team in
20-14 NCAA Bubble/last 4 in
21-14 NCAA No doubt
It just feels good to be able to talk about post-season. Beginning of the year no one was giving this team any chance of post season play.
Im excited for the BTT. Our two best game of the year have come out East! Maybe DC will be good to the hawks!
17-15 (lose to PSU and BTT game) no postseason.
18-15 (lose to PSU and win 1 BTT game) in NIT lower seed.
19-15(lose to PSU and win 2 BTT games) in NIT mid level seed.
20-15 (lose to PSU and win 3 BTT games) borderline NCAA but probably high NIT seed.
21-14 (lose to PSU and win BTT) 11 NCAA seed may or may not be playing in Dayton.
18-14 (win against PSU and lose BTT game) mid level NIT
19-14 (win against PSU and win 1 BTT game) talk of NCAA but get high NIT bid
20-14 (win against PSU and win 2 BTT games)play in dayton.
21-14(win against PSU and win 3 BTT games.) 11 seed no game in Dayton
22-13(win against PSU and win BTT) 9 type seed.
18-15 (lose to PSU and win 1 BTT game) in NIT lower seed.
19-15(lose to PSU and win 2 BTT games) in NIT mid level seed.
20-15 (lose to PSU and win 3 BTT games) borderline NCAA but probably high NIT seed.
21-14 (lose to PSU and win BTT) 11 NCAA seed may or may not be playing in Dayton.
18-14 (win against PSU and lose BTT game) mid level NIT
19-14 (win against PSU and win 1 BTT game) talk of NCAA but get high NIT bid
20-14 (win against PSU and win 2 BTT games)play in dayton.
21-14(win against PSU and win 3 BTT games.) 11 seed no game in Dayton
22-13(win against PSU and win BTT) 9 type seed.
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Just FYI, if they win the BTT, they skip Dayton. The first 4 are the last four at large teams and the worst auto qualifiers from tiny conferences.
Have to go along with this. As Bardo and Kellogg say, "They have to take care of their business". Even if we get into the NIT and can play on our home court, what a thrill for the players and fans. Considering an injury-laden year, and the fact that they were in the learning stages, IMO this would be a good thing going forward.
No doubt however, We're all pulling for a strong finish and GET the NCAA bid!
Gotta take care of our business.
You have to understand that the NCAA purchased the NIT tournament 5-6 years ago. Your statement about $$ is the OLD business model prior to the NCAA taking over. The NCAA's NIT model is to provide a landing place for all of the non-power 5/6 conference teams that won the regular season but lost in the conference tourney or had a high RPI / great season worthy of an at large bid but did not get in from a mid-major conference like the MVC.
Here's the reason.... the NCAA wants as few of these teams as possible in the big dance because they want to maximize eyeballs and interest. Studies show these teams are very bad for business in terms of long term viewer interest and dilute the product. Sure everyone loves the first round upset but as the rounds go on these teams do not garner the interest nationwide and that lack of interest does not help you get top dollar for the product from advertisers & TV executives. They want the big boys in the big dance not these underling schools. The big dance is the NCAA's sole money maker for everything else they do.
The problem is the little guys whine and complain constantly so the NCAA's idea was to buy the NIT in order to be able to throw them a bone even if it loses money which it does because they will make it up with the best possible product for advertisers / TV in the big dance which is correct. The NIT games get on TV as filler and they get to host some home games which makes the little guys happy too.
Does that mean that power 5/6 who do not make the big dance will not get in? No, but they are NOT the NCAAs first priority for the NIT regardless of how many eyeballs, fans or $$ they bring to the table.
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