Get busy living or get busy dying. We're all going to die of something. And if you're under 75 the odds of it being from this are almost 0. There's exceptions to every rule, but public policy shouldn't be determined by the less than 1% it should be around the 99%
No Fans at Games
- Thread starter Knothole Hawk
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#1. fans allowed in to arenas usually come together in 2’s, 4’s, they are allowed to sit together, next to each other. they then sit 3 chairs from another group , that = 6 feet.
#2 These fans must wear their masks, unless they are eating or drinking, so there are no mask-less people yelling and singing, they must wear the mask when not consuming concessions.
#3. They are subject to the same distancing, masking, with hand sanitizers everywhere, just like at the supermarket
this does not have the same characteristics as a ‘super spreader‘ where you have people shoulder to shoulder, with peoole they don’t know, with no masks, and no sanitizers.
around 9% of iowans have shots , more are getting shots daily, the rates are all plummeting, we can attend events together, we can open up events safely. To think that 1 person will die from these games is pure pure conjecture.
lets reopen safely
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its not Warren. It’s university leadership using an emergency to push a political narrative and knock sports down a peg or two.
What is the point where we can go back to normal life? What is the "acceptable" number?
And as it should be, like it or not, the businesses and people are responsible for themselves and their operations.
Their grandkids and kids may deliver groceries to them, etc. Gramps and Gram may need to use public transportation to get to appointments. They go to Dr. and other appointments. Even though they try to socially distance, they do still encounter other people and in doing so they may be exposed. I don't think it's too much to ask that the rest of us not attend athletic events in person for a few months until it's safer.
Medical experts say 70-80% of us vaccinated or immune. We're not there yet.
I just don't see it. If there's a safe way for johnny to shop for grandma's groceries and deliver them, there's a safe way to attend a basketball game.
Well, do you see the difference in importance of grandma having food and you going to a BB game?
I mentioned Gramps and Gram earlier, as if they are isolated at home. Keep in mind that many older people are still working because they have to to survive economically. When we go to their place of employment after having been exposed to the virus at a BB game, I just think we should have done them better. Sure, people become exposed doing other, necessary life activities, but watching a BB game in person isn't a necessary life activity. Some of you on this post seem very willing to sacrifice the health and lives of others while not seeming very willing to make far less intrusive sacrifices, such as holding off on going in person to games. Some aren't even willing to wear a damn mask when they go into the store where Gramps and Gram work.
yeah because they’ve been so spot on accurate during this whole ordeal.....
Your underlying assumption is that it is a good decision to let 500 people watch high school sporting events in a small gym.
One big difference is that the B1G schools have a committee of highly degreed medical specialists who are consulted and play a large role in the decision making process.
In contrast, in Iowa, we have Kim Reynolds and Dr. Pedati.
Enough said.
Far closer to accurate than “we have 15 cases and they will soon be gone” and “COVID will disappear on November 4th.”
Considering this is a novel virus, never seen or dealt with before by the medical profession and scientists, they've been pretty darn accurate.
We had the Super Bowl here 10 days ago, and no state wide mask mandates since June... and our cases continue to fall, our hospitalizations continue to fall, We had fans (albeit limited) all football season at Florida, the NFL teams had fans. We have been full capacity at restaurants, bars open, etc. We have like 6 reported cases state wide of the Flu... Its just hard to envision why we need to stop our way of life at this point. A year ago, when we weren't sure what we were dealing with, I understand that... but we know what this is now, we have a vaccine, its time to nut up and get back to normal.
Until we're all vaccinated?
Both major "vaccine " companies have no proof that these things will actually prevent the vaccinated person from getting covid19. They didn't test for that!
Furthermore, even if you're vaccinated, they have no idea if you can still be a carrier and spread the virus.
Both companies admitted they have not studied those 2 very important inquiries.
Let me know if you can prove they have tested for those things. Because they're working hard to cover it up.
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The "experts" have even said once you've been vaccinated, you still have to mask, still have to social distance... like you said you could potentially still carry the virus and perhaps even spread it... then I need someone to explain to me in laymans terms WHY IN THE WORLD would I want to get injected with it? What exactly does it do?????
I wouldn't take that s*** for nothing. Was super rushed, new technology never used before. Isn't anyone surprised how covid rates are dropping like a rock? I guarantee you it isn't because of the vaccination. Something is fishy as fock
All the approved vaccines so far prevent serious illness and death from the virus.
Are you an ass? "The vaccine was 85% effective in preventing severe COVID-19 disease and 100% effective in preventing COVID-19-related hospitalizations and deaths." https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...cine-shown-prevent-85-severe-covid-19-disease
That's not a very nice question 🙄. I wouldn't believe a thing that little weasel fauci says
Fauci has dedicated his entire career to keeping the rest of us healthy. Show respect. Sounds like you'll believe just about anyone who throws something out there that aligns with your beliefs rather than facts. I believe in science. Science kept me (and you) from getting polio. My older cousin got it and lost the use of one of his legs as a result. I was young enough to get the vaccine that came out after he contracted polio. The world is a MUCH healthier place because of scientists and doctors like Fauci.
Lol show respect huh? Go blow. The world is a much healthier place because of some scientists and doctors but that doesn't include that corrupt little prick fauci
Share some credible evidence that Fauci is corrupt, or refrain from saying it. And "Go blow"?? Quite the articulate debater you are! I'm done replying to you. Not worth my time. Enjoy life in your alternate reality.
Yeah, the super spreaders from all the games has been all over the news. Players dropping like flies, whole communities wiped out. We get emails daily of one or two kids that tested positive at school. In a school of 2500 kids. Life is safe to live, if you take care.
If you think it has been about saving participants’ lives, you need to expand your reading sources. And if you assume that everyone is “taking care,” you would be wrong. There is a vast amount of manipulation and deception taking place in high school athletics.
COVID sucks. I hate it. I have a ton of COVID fatigue right now. I desperately want a return to “normalcy.” But I’m not so naive to overlook that our society’s unwillingness to adopt measures to get it under control is why we are approaching a full year of disturbances to “normal.” Largely because a significant portion of our society was led to believe that it was a political fraud that would disappear on 11/4. And to those people, I say “f—k you.”
Lol, cry baby 😢
By the way, when they finally decided your boy biden was going to be instilled as a fake prez covid rates started dropping like a ROCK, coincidence? I think not
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People will still die of covid at 70-80%. Regardless of vaccination percentage, the virus isn't going to go away, similar to the large number of people who die from the flu each year.
So at 70-80% then we are fine with saying F grandma and grandpa (sarcasm)? The "medical experts" change their stories on a fairly consistent basis. similar to "masks don't work", two weeks later "everyone needs to wear a mask". Or now, saying that even WITH vaccination, that the Fed government is going to keep things mostly shut down until next year. The "experts" are making it up as they go along.
Every day in life we make and take risks. Every time you drive, there is the risk you could die. People work in jobs day in and day out, that could potentially kill them. People have (in the past) had the free will to decide what risks are or are not worth it to them. In my opinion, people need to be able to make their own choices to decide if certain risks are worth it to them or not. That doesn't mean being stupid about things, but it does mean allowing people to choose.
Word for the wise if you want to have this discussion with people on this topic best bet to take it to HROT. Obviously there are 2 sharp contrasting sides to it and no one is going to change any ones opinion on it.
"Cry baby?" Seriously? Are you in kindergarten? I haven't heard anyone, let alone an adult, use that term in 40+ years.
No comment necessary. This speaks for itself. Nicely played.
Seems to me I have already seen games at some non-B1G college sites where there seemed to be a fair amount of fans. Makes me wonder if there is a conference standard for all or if each school has some say in the matter.
Wow! You've got it bad! You talk about sheep, but I'd say your indoctrination is fully complete. And don't bother to respond because I just won't waste any time arguing with someone with such a flimsy grasp of reality.
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Your right, complete with you. It would do you a service to watch something besides good ole cnn/msnbc, they've got you brainwashed and good
By this standard nothing can ever happen again. Ever. The virus is not going to be eliminated 100%, even with vaccines. Perhaps eventually it will mutate in a way that it mostly disappears like Swine Flu and some other things. In the future, there will likely be other things that are a danger to the elderly. We literally cannot stop society forever, with no weddings, no funerals, no attendance at sporting events, no concerts, no going to a church at capacity, no graduations, no going to a full restaurant or bar. Well, we can, but that would be unwise to do so. The whole point of living is not to just stay at home and not be exposed to anything, ever. If you have elderly family members, as most all of us do, it's on the individuals to take the precautions necessary. We all make risk-based assessments every day, whether it's driving when it's snowing or whether to have a surgery. Public policy should not be set with the goal of "saving one life." By that standard, allowing people to drive cars is criminal.
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