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No, we're not going to forget

Been stabbed 3 times no problem for me or the other 50 people who got vaxed at work.
At least not that you know of, or it just hasn't shown up yet. Do you ask all 50 people frequently if they've had their hearts examined recently? Of course not. The fact is we were all sold lie after lie to take the big pharma $ shots, for a virus that killed the elderly and morbidly obese.
 
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Is it?

Let's say, for the sake of easier math, the number is 25% effective.

So, if I expose 800 people to the new Covids, who are "unboosted", and normally 400 of them will become infected (half), then how many will become infected in an identical population that IS boosted?

(Can you calculate what "75% of 400" is here?)
Why would someone who's been vaxed and boosted expose anyone to covid?
 
Why would someone who's been vaxed and boosted expose anyone to covid?
It's become a circular argument that depends on the recipient of the argument being gaslighted. The narrative has to keep changing to avoid the reality of admitting mistakes. Nobody wants the credibility of the US Government to be in doubt, but a few people are way too invested.

Disclaimer - I got 2 jabs as soon as they were available to me. I trusted, too, in the beginning.
 
Are your facts the same today as they were in 2020?

The MORE RECENT DATA indicated different results, didn't they?
Do scientists have crystal balls or time machines to see what the data will look like years down the road?

And we still see 30% or higher efficacy at preventing infections at 4 months. You still do not understand, nor comprehend, what those numbers mean.
 
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and a 100-fold increase in the risk in a 12-24 year-old due to the 2nd dose of mRNA vaccine. This result is unambiguous and should have been enough to end the debate.
This is now "full of shit" with the data on the vaccines, properly sequenced.
 
At least not that you know of, or it just hasn't shown up yet. Do you ask all 50 people frequently if they've had their hearts examined recently? Of course not. The fact is we were all sold lie after lie to take the big pharma $ shots, for a virus that killed the elderly and morbidly obese.

Meanwhile, New Zealand did NOT have "massive outbreaks of myocarditis" in teens, despite being the most vaccinated country across the planet....
 
Meanwhile, New Zealand did NOT have "massive outbreaks of myocarditis" in teens, despite being the most vaccinated country across the planet....
"Conclusions
A statistically significant association between BNT162b2 vaccination and myo/pericarditis was observed. This association has been confirmed internationally. "

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10442303/

"The authors of the research paper looked at associations between 12 adverse conditions and the Pfizer vaccine between February 2021 and February 2022. They compared the historic rate of these conditions in New Zealand with rates after vaccination.

It found no link between vaccination and the majority of the selected adverse events, including nerve and blood-related conditions.

However, the Covid-19 vaccination was associated with a “rare but significant increased risk of myo/pericarditis”, the paper said."
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid...th-caution-expert/B5XJ7LODPBGTTFMNXDY3SYDQZ4/

"A woman in New Zealand who developed myocarditis after receiving the Pfizer COVID vaccine has died.

In a statement issued on Monday, the country’s Ministry of Health said the COVID-19 Vaccine Independent Safety Monitoring Board (CV-ISMB), responsible for reviewing fatal outcomes following vaccination, considers the death was due to myocarditis, which is known to be a rare side effect of the mRNA vaccine.

‘The CV-ISMB considers that the circumstances of this death are consistent with what is known about myocarditis and the Pfizer vaccine,’ the statement reads."
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/nz-myocarditis-death-had-probable-link-to-pfizer-v
 
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"Conclusions
A statistically significant association between BNT162b2 vaccination and myo/pericarditis was observed. This association has been confirmed internationally. "

Who has been arguing otherwise?

That's been established for over a year now.
But the virus causes those conditions at a 7x higher rate than the vaccines do.
 
The MORE RECENT DATA indicated different results, didn't they?
Do scientists have crystal balls or time machines to see what the data will look like years down the road?

And we still see 30% or higher efficacy at preventing infections at 4 months. You still do not understand, nor comprehend, what those numbers mean.
exactly why some people didn't want the poison to begin with. There's no way to know how these things were going to affect them years down the road.

Maybe you finally got it???
 
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Who has been arguing otherwise?

That's been established for over a year now.
But the virus causes those conditions at a 7x higher rate than the vaccines do.
Everyone is going to get the virus. No matter if you are vaccinated or not. Why add additional myocarditis risk with the vaccine, which won't even prevent transmission, if you aren't at risk of hospitalization?
 
You are going to have increased myocarditis risk from both getting Covid, and from being vaccinated.

NO

You have SEVEN TIMES the risk getting Covid when UNVACCINATED.
Being vaccinated REDUCES your risk by 50% against those who are unvaccinated

Run.The.Math

If you have a population of 10M people, and 7000 will get myocarditis when they get Covid, then the SAME population would incur 1000 myocarditis cases IF THEY HAD ALL BEEN VACCINATED (1/7th).

And the ones who DO get vaccinated will incur 3500 myocarditis cases vs the 7000 if they aren't vaccinated (1/2).

1000 + 3500 is LESS THAN 7000.
You will PREVENT 35% of the myocarditis cases.
 
The MORE RECENT DATA indicated different results, didn't they?
Do scientists have crystal balls or time machines to see what the data will look like years down the road?

And we still see 30% or higher efficacy at preventing infections at 4 months. You still do not understand, nor comprehend, what those numbers mean.
Your facts change, and you claim it's because lack of a crystal ball. Why don't you just concede we were lied to about the efficacy, as well as the risks. Why don't you give a little thought to the very real possibility the facts will change even more, and the US Government needs to keep some positive narrative in order to keep the public trust.
 
Your facts change, and you claim it's because lack of a crystal ball.

LOLWUT?

The original data indicated the efficacy they claimed, against the virus strain they tested it against.
Then, the virus mutated, and the vaccines were less effective against the new variants.

What parts of that are beyond your capability to understand here?
 
LOLWUT?

The original data indicated the efficacy they claimed, against the virus strain they tested it against.
Then, the virus mutated, and the vaccines were less effective against the new variants.

What parts of that are beyond your capability to understand here?
You predicted 2.5 million deaths in the US in the first year. Then you moved the goalpost to say "that's with no mitigation". Turns out, other than lockdowns, the mitigations weren't all that effective. The mutations didn't start showing up in the US until nearly a year after delta, and the omicron version was already known to be much milder than delta.

I don't have a problem with change; you do. You can never admit you were wrong.
 
You predicted 2.5 million deaths in the US in the first year.
No; I did not

I posted that IF we did not use mitigations (shutting down concerts, etc) that was where the curve was headed. I posted numerous times showing that log curve was FLAT thru March 2020. And showed you specifically where we DID bend the curve to take us OFF that track.
 
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Everyone is going to get the virus. No matter if you are vaccinated or not. Why add additional myocarditis risk with the vaccine, which won't even prevent transmission, if you aren't at risk of hospitalization?
Bc pfizer doesn't make money unless you get it. Period.
 
There Were No Lockdowns.
YOU. ARE. A. LIAR.

“On 20 March 2020, New York governor Andrew Cuomo announced the state-wide stay-at-home order with a mandate for remote work effective 22 March. Illinois governor J. B. Pritzker followed that lead on the same day with a state-wide order which would go into effect on 21 March at 5 pm. Ned Lamont, the governor of Connecticut, signed an executive order called "Stay Safe, Stay At Home" to take effect state-wide on 23 March at 8 p.m.”
 
either it never happened
It never happened for the very large majority of us.

Did some localities call for them?
Yep; looks like a couple, in the first weeks when the virus was running rampant, their hospitals were full, and people were dying by the thousands.

And we had full-on exponential growth of infections and deaths in those first weeks; beginning in March and thru the end of that month. Had those areas NOT acted quickly, those numbers & projections would have continued well into April and May.

Instead, we "bent the curve", which was what those minimal "lockdowns" and shutting down concerts/sports venues, etc were intended to do. The other option was to "let things rip" and have hundreds of thousands of deaths within the first few months. We PREVENTED that.
 
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