It's 3x to 7x less likely from the vaccines than it is from catching the virus.
And if you do get Covid after vaccination, the vaccine provides a protective effect against it.
Those publications have been posted for you multiple times now.
It's 3x to 7x less likely from the vaccines than it is from catching the virus.
And if you do get Covid after vaccination, the vaccine provides a protective effect against it.
Those publications have been posted for you multiple times now.
Steve Kirsch?? 🤣🤣🤣
You aren’t proving anything by posting this bullshit.
It's proving not everyone is as delusional and incapable of critical thinking as you are.You aren’t proving anything by posting this bullshit.
Me and the vast majority of the medical community? You got crazy Twitter doctor. Please let that sink in.It's proving not everyone is as delusional and incapable of critical thinking as you are.
It's proving not everyone is as delusional and incapable of critical thinking as you are.
What exactly are you even arguing? That people should still be getting vaccinated for COVID?Me and the vast majority of the medical community? You got crazy Twitter doctor. Please let that sink in.
Pretty much Science. That’s what I’m arguing.What exactly are you even arguing? That people should still be getting vaccinated for COVID?
It's the virus, dipshit.
You aren’t proving anything by posting this bullshit.
Pretty much Science. That’s what I’m arguing.
Science? When it's done right and not controlled by industry
Again, I’ll trust the vast majority of the medical community and science. You trust the kooks and right wing websites. But please realize who you are trusting. It’s silly of you. Especially when you try and lecture someone.Science? When it's done right and not controlled by industry and those with conflicts of interest can be great.
How many industries have manipulated science to satisfy their own vested interestes? Tobacco, lead, glyphosate and GMOs, asbestos, amongst others. It's undeniable.
If you can't also recognize that you also must follow the money by now, then we have nothing more to discuss here.
These question aren't meant to put you on the defensive.Again, I’ll trust the vast majority of the medical community and science. You trust the looks and right wing websites. But please realize who you are trusting. It’s silly of you. Especially when you try and lecture someone.
Notice you did not include "and those with conflicts of interest" for a reason. If you're still promoting the COVID vaccines at this point, for infants and children no less, you are operating under a conflict of interest. Period.We continue to post dozens and dozens of publications with NO connections to Pfizer or Moderna, published by career immunologists and scientists.
You ignore all of those and find random Youtube videos and Twitter posts.
Not remotely the same thing, Cletus.
Good questions that I don’t have the answer for. I’m sure some of the doctors on this site old be able to answer these questions.These question aren't meant to put you on the defensive.
What percentage of non-research doctors actually look at various studies from around the world in order to form their own conclusion?
When they look at studies, what weight do they give to statistical studies compared to clinical studies?
Is there any bias for practicing physicians to come to conclusions based on guidance from government agencies like CDC or NIH rather than their own research?
They RELY ON the research doctors and scientists.These question aren't meant to put you on the defensive.
What percentage of non-research doctors actually look at various studies from around the world in order to form their own conclusion?
Notice you did not include "and those with conflicts of interest" for a reason.
It seems you're blindly trusting a system that you have very little knowledge of. It's a system lead by humans, run by humans, with money as the driver. So I guess you'll have to forgive me if I don't just blindly trust that.Good questions that I don’t have the answer for. I’m sure some of the doctors on this site old be able to answer these questions.
I think it is a safe bet. So do the majority of Americans.It seems you're blindly trusting a system that you have very little knowledge of. It's a system lead by humans, run by humans, with money as the driver. So I guess you'll have to forgive me if I don't just blindly trust that.
Is there any bias for practicing physicians to come to conclusions based on guidance from government agencies like CDC or NIH rather than their own research?
Nobody's required to publish science that doesn't "fit".They do not have any "conflicts of interest", and are required to list those with the publications.
It seems you're blindly trusting a system that you have very little knowledge of. It's a system lead by humans, run by humans, with money as the driver.
Yeah, it's a trust that has cost many their health, if not their lives.I think it is a safe bet. So do the majority of Americans.
Nobody's required to publish science that doesn't "fit".
That's disingenuous at best.This is what YOU do.
Blindly trusting random Twitter and Youtube videos, designed to get "advertising hits" from a bunch of uneducated rubes.
If you're still promoting the COVID vaccines at this point, for infants and children no less, you are operating under a conflict of interest.
How many deaths are the direct sure of a vaccine? Per year, per decade, ever?Yeah, it's a trust that has cost many their health, if not their lives.
"a vaccine"? Are we still talking about the COVID vax? The vaccine deaths are what people are still trying to figure out.How many deaths are the direct sure of a vaccine? Per year, per decade, ever?
Answer my question."a vaccine"? Are we still talking about the COVID vax? The vaccine deaths are what people are still trying to figure out.
Answer my question.
Duh. I just told you it's highly speculative at this point. You can't even commit your core argument or which vaccine you're referring to. Thanks for your effort but no thanks.Answer my question.
Duh. I just told you it's highly speculative at this point.
TRANSLATION: I'm not going to commit to a number when it's speculative. Some scientists are looking at the all-cause mortality data from several countries and stating the number of suspected deaths in the millions.TRANSLATION: "There is no actual evidence anywhere, but I have to stick to the talking points pushed into my email and Twitter feeds on an hourly basis."
TRANSLATION: I'm not going to commit to a number when it's speculative.
I’m making it easy for you. Any vaccine.Duh. I just told you it's highly speculative at this point. You can't even commit your core argument or which vaccine you're referring to. Thanks for your effort but no thanks.
I don't need a solid number that everyone can agree upon to acknowledge that my potential costs greatly outweigh my potential benefits. And it's not close.But you'll continue to pretend - based on your email and Twitter feeds - that it is 'rampant'....
We're pretty much talking about the COVID vaccines exclusively in this thread. How about we stick with those?I’m making it easy for you. Any vaccine.