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Nobody Talks About How to Fight Inflation

Actually, they do.

But people don't want to hear it.
Tax cuts for rich people and corporations have reduced revenues 2-3%

Compounded over years, that creates big problems - you want to eliminate the deficits, then those taxes cannot simply be "returned to pre-cut levels", they need to be ABOVE those previous levels to bring the average back to what it was.


Tax revenues are at an all time high.
Keep trying.
 
  • United States Tax revenue: % of GDP was reported at 16.4 % in Dec 2023.
  • This records a decrease from the previous number of 18.5 % for Dec 2022.
  • US Tax revenue: % of GDP data is updated yearly, averaging 17.0 % from Dec 1968 to 2023, with 56 observations.
  • The data reached an all-time high of 19.5 % in 2000 and a record low of 13.7 % in 2009.
 
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He was talking about tax on income - Federal income tax and payroll taxes (social security and Medicare).



Buffett's income is probably almost entirely qualified dividends and capital gains, taxed at 20%. After deductions, his tax was 17.4%. His secretary pays regular income tax at her rate plus 7.65% payroll taxes. After deductions, her rate was 35.8%.
Why would she pay payroll taxes?
 
I've said many times that if Republicans really believed their supply-side BS, they would have been calling for higher taxes on the wealthy to tamp down inflation. Maybe our tax policies for the past 40+ years have just been designed to funnel as much money to wealthy donors as possible rather than to promote the general welfare.
 
Umm....our inflation rate is less than 3% right now. That's right on pace with historical norms.
 
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I don't think that inflation and the National Debt are as connected as posters on this thread think. IMO.

Just read inflation is 2.9% for the 12 months ending July 2024. I'd like to see it below 2%, but it's not really too bad now. But lower inflation doesn't fix the price increases that have already occurred on groceries, housing, gas, utilities, etc.

When demand exceeds supply, you get price increases (inflation). The post-pandemic demand roared back to pre-pandemic levels, but suppliers all over the world had huge cutbacks during the pandemic and it's taken a while for them to adjust. Government policies didn't do that.

I don't agree with Harris' price control idea. The "economy" is going to go where it is driven by supply and demand. The segment of the population that can no longer afford the basics need to be helped in other ways - like lower taxes. Lower income taxes and property tax credits for low income would be a good start.

The stock market increased 148% in eight years under Obama, 51% in 4 years under Trump and 39% so far under Biden. The people that have money in the market (savings or retirement plan) have done very well and far out-paced inflation. A quick Google search says that's 61% of Americans.

Most Americans can deal with higher prices, Let's fix it for those that can't.
Holy shit. A reasonable take on the situation.
 
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I've said many times that if Republicans really believed their supply-side BS, they would have been calling for higher taxes on the wealthy to tamp down inflation. Maybe our tax policies for the past 40+ years have just been designed to funnel as much money to wealthy donors as possible rather than to promote the general welfare.
Bill Clinton told America back in the ‘90’s…” trickle down doesn’t work”….America chose not to listen.
 
I've said many times that if Republicans really believed their supply-side BS, they would have been calling for higher taxes on the wealthy to tamp down inflation. Maybe our tax policies for the past 40+ years have just been designed to funnel as much money to wealthy donors as possible rather than to promote the general welfare.
Between that, subsidizing large business, bailing out bad businesses, and the war industry. Of course cuts will go to social security, medicare, and school lunch programs.
 
The "raised taxes" won't be on "you", they will be on the 1%-ers, who fight tooth and nail to keep their money and pay LOWER taxes than you do.
Most likely, they will fall across the board and land on people who are already loaded with "Private Debt." (mortgages, student loans, credit cards, and completely outsized car loans)

... leaving them with less ability to pay this down.

In any case even if the added taxes did go to reducing the debt, it would likely be offset by much higher private debt as people stretched out their payments or defaulted on their debts. (Transferring the obligations to private lenders). There is no collective gain in any of this.

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A couple of things on the Micro side that are usually overlooked:

- Lumber prices: Like Oil, we have zillions of acres of harvestable timber that we seem to simply burn off every fire season. This leads us to import building materials and send dollars out of the country. We should be harvesting timber, selling it domestically and internationally and, and watching lumber prices decline, along with the cost to build a house and eventually the cost to build a million houses.

- Domestic drilling should be ramped up dramatically. If we have some left over, sell it internationally. We SHOULD have a surplus! (a very large surplus!) ... Build a debt reduction program around that income, as that money gets funneled through the economy and in turn the IRS and the various state taxing entities.

-Energy infrastructure, specifically Refineries, pipelines, and nuclear power plants ... Simply make the cost to produce energy lower by creating an array of new, expanded and most importantly, highly efficient sources of power.

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Bottom line: produce more of everything here and sell the extra overseas which would in turn grow our economy ... and increase the total tax haul for the government, leaving folks to budget for paying off their own debt. If we rely on government to develop plans to spend money that is already committed or budgeted by individuals and companies, disaster will ensue.
 
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Yet no expert shares your opinion. If you think reducing the labor force, and the increased wages that will be a result of that will reduce inflation you are stupid.
Labor force? LMAO! They are slinging drugs, stealing shit and on welfare..... JFC.......
 
Tax revenues are at an all time high.
Keep trying.
As % GDP?

Nope

They used to run 18-20%

Bush and Trump tax cuts dropped them to 16%+. If you want to balance the budget, you have to catch up, which means they need to go above 20% to "revert to the mean". And most of those cuts have gone to the uber-wealthy - with the claim they would "pay themselves back" in economic growth.

Only, the uber-rich do not drive the economic growth, the middle class does.
 
  • United States Tax revenue: % of GDP was reported at 16.4 % in Dec 2023.
  • This records a decrease from the previous number of 18.5 % for Dec 2022.
  • US Tax revenue: % of GDP data is updated yearly, averaging 17.0 % from Dec 1968 to 2023, with 56 observations.
  • The data reached an all-time high of 19.5 % in 2000 and a record low of 13.7 % in 2009.
Yep

The tax cuts on corporations and the rich have just crushed the deficits #s
Get things back to that running norm, and you can balance budgets, again.

You cannot "reduce budgets" your way out of this mess - the tax cuts must be reversed
 
As % GDP?

Nope

They used to run 18-20%

Bush and Trump tax cuts dropped them to 16%+. If you want to balance the budget, you have to catch up, which means they need to go above 20% to "revert to the mean". And most of those cuts have gone to the uber-wealthy - with the claim they would "pay themselves back" in economic growth.

Only, the uber-rich do not drive the economic growth, the middle class does.
As % GDP?

Nope

They used to run 18-20%

Bush and Trump tax cuts dropped them to 16%+. If you want to balance the budget, you have to catch up, which means they need to go above 20% to "revert to the mean". And most of those cuts have gone to the uber-wealthy - with the claim they would "pay themselves back" in economic growth.

Only, the uber-rich do not drive the economic growth, the middle class does.
Sounds like awe need Bill Clinton back in office for another term or two…..
 
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Raise taxes? We’re already being hit with inflation and now we deserve higher taxes on top of that because of our POS politicians (yes…BOTH sides) who have recklessly borrowed and spent for a 100+ years? Screw that.

Repudiate the debt and abolish the Fed for starters.
Phuquing taxes are LOW Micheal.. time for rich/corporations to pony-up…Please tell me how 1% of the richest pay 47% of the taxes…. Just remember these folks control 90% of the nations wealth. Pay your fair share! Revise the tax code…. It’s been 40 years since that has happened.
 
Phuquing taxes are LOW Micheal.. time for rich/corporations to pony-up…Please tell me how 1% of the richest pay 47% of the taxes…. Just remember these folks control 90% of the nations wealth. Pay your fair share! Revise the tax code…. It’s been 40 years since that has happened.
But it’s the corporations and the filthy rich who are buying off ‘our’ representatives in DC. The representatives who write those tax codes.

Don’t hold your breath waiting for change. 😗
 
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Phuquing taxes are LOW Micheal.. time for rich/corporations to pony-up…Please tell me how 1% of the richest pay 47% of the taxes…. Just remember these folks control 90% of the nations wealth. Pay your fair share! Revise the tax code…. It’s been 40 years since that has happened.
NTSA. It’s not a revenue problem.
 
Phuquing taxes are LOW Micheal.. time for rich/corporations to pony-up…Please tell me how 1% of the richest pay 47% of the taxes…. Just remember these folks control 90% of the nations wealth. Pay your fair share! Revise the tax code…. It’s been 40 years since that has happened.
Elon Musk paid 11 billion dollars in taxes. You could confiscate every penny from the top 1% and it would fund the government for about 60 days. We might have a spending problem.
 
Elon Musk paid 11 billion dollars in taxes. You could confiscate every penny from the top 1% and it would fund the government for about 60 days. We might have a spending problem.

Our government costs us $38 trillion dollars every 60 days?

What was Elon's effective tax rate? People like to talk about the tax dollar totals paid by billionaires. Ooh look at this big number and you want them to pay more??
 
Both sides bitch about inflation but nobody talks about how to stop it.

It is not rocket science. Raise taxes and cut spending on fiscal side and increase Quantitative Tightening on monetary side.

$15 Trillion has been added to National Debt since Obama left office and Fed Balance Sheet still over $7 Trillion.
Also, no one talked about the fantabulous deal Trump negotiated with OPEC, no one negotiates like Trump. 10% OPEC output reduction started April 2020. The "other" thing in 2020 that caused inflation.
 
Elon Musk paid 11 billion dollars in taxes. You could confiscate every penny from the top 1% and it would fund the government for about 60 days. We might have a spending problem.
Not even! These stupid MF'ers keep squawking about the "billionaires!" How many billion does it take to make a trillion? Exactly 1000! How many US billionaires are there? Roughly 740 with a combined wealth of $5.5 trillion. So even if cumala the marxist confiscated the wealth of every American billionaire, it wouldn't make a dent in the debt > https://www.usdebtclock.org/, but yes, simply increasing their taxes is the answer? How ****ing stupid can you get? 🤡 🤣 🤣🤡 Yes, those "Trump tax cuts" are exactly why we are $36,000,000,000,000 in the hole after 4 years of Cumalanomics and the massive importation of ILLEGALS!!! People this ****ing stupid shouldn't be allowed to vote............

 
It’s not a revenue problem.
It is a revenue problem

Revenues have been down ~2% from the running average due to Bush and Trump tax cuts on corporations, the wealthy and cap gains. To return to the original running average, they need to be increased by ~4% for the next couple decades, which will take a significant bite out of the debt and deficits.
 
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It is a revenue problem

Revenues have been down ~2% from the running average due to Bush and Trump tax cuts on corporations, the wealthy and cap gains. To return to the original running average, they need to be increased by ~4% for the next couple decades, which will take a significant bite out of the debt and deficits.
See my post above ^ you ****ing moron! 🤡

 
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It is a revenue problem

There isn't enough revenue in the US to satisfy the insatiable spending habits of our federal government,.. We have a heroin addict and your solution is to identify the dosage level that keeps him high, functioning, and stable...
 
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