Not calling the obvious targeting in the endzone in the first half

[David1979]

First, I in NO WAY think we lost the game because of bad calls. We got beat and had plenty of chances to win.

With that said, that hit most definitely was a helmet to helmet penalty, no doubt. I understand how it could be missed in real speed, so my question is, for you rules experts, since they definitely reviewed the play closely to make sure it was an interception, could the replay official have called the helmet to helmet from viewing it? We know the replay officials DO review helmet to helmet penalties to determine if there was targeting, but since no judgement call penalty was called on the field, did that prevent the replay official from calling it after he reviewed it?

AGAIN, not sour grapes, I'm just now curious about the rule in that situation.

No they can't call the penalty on a review. However they can overturn an ejection on review.

 

[David1979]

So the kid is supposed to stand there and wait to hit him AFTER he catches it. Got ya. I will be sure to tell the NCAA to enforce this rule from now on. Well I think they need to ban all officials then, because I have not seen that type of play called once this year.

The rule book is a guideline. The game is not called by the rulebook. I have several friends who are officials of basketball, football, and other sports. They tell me all the time, the rules are in place, but how you call them is different. Apparently its an officials code, they don't call it by the rule book. I sit there are argue about calls all the time with them and they just laugh. They always tell me, instead of reading the rule book, get your certification and come out and ref. Then you will see 1st hand how "easy" of a call these are.

Well then you didn't watch the Nebraska game.

 

[DavenportHawk8]

Well then you didn't watch the Nebraska game.

Actually I did and that was a great call. Smith "laid" out for the ball and the kid from Nebbie actually hit him with his "shoulder" in the head. I think that was a great call, because the Nebbie kid came with the intent to hurt smith. He wasn't trying to make a play on the ball or break up the pass, he was just trying to light him up.

Saturday night was not a target penalty. The TE had the ball hit his hands and he dropped it. The LB/DB was just trying to break up the pass. He wasn't trying to intentionally hit our TE in the head, he was coming in and trying to break up a pass. Plain and simple, he dropped the ball on that one. Should of caught it. Whatever happened after was a "fluke" play (ala MSUvsMU) just a strange bounce and every now and again a team gets lucky.

So would you be in favor of allowing coaches to review penalties? Or review a play where they think a missed penalty may have happened? Would you favor that?

I sure as hell wouldn't, then you might as well have someone officiate from the press box and take all officials out of the game. They do make mistakes, but that was not one of them.

 

[ichawk24]

If helmet to helmet was an automatic penalty, Lomax would have at least 10 targeting calls this year.

 

[parker01]

I don't mind the no call. It is usually called these days, but I have no problem with the no call. It just sucks that the ball somehow fell right onto the LBs back and sit there for an eternity waiting to be picked up...

In my opinion if that pass falls incomplete we end up winning the game... But it was a great stand inside the 10 by MSU. Such a closely contested game, and that play was the biggest one I would like back (wel the fourth and 2 would be nice too).

 

[Jimmy Frank]

Actually I did and that was a great call. Smith "laid" out for the ball and the kid from Nebbie actually hit him with his "shoulder" in the head. I think that was a great call, because the Nebbie kid came with the intent to hurt smith. He wasn't trying to make a play on the ball or break up the pass, he was just trying to light him up.

Saturday night was not a target penalty. The TE had the ball hit his hands and he dropped it. The LB/DB was just trying to break up the pass. He wasn't trying to intentionally hit our TE in the head, he was coming in and trying to break up a pass. Plain and simple, he dropped the ball on that one. Should of caught it. Whatever happened after was a "fluke" play (ala MSUvsMU) just a strange bounce and every now and again a team gets lucky.

So would you be in favor of allowing coaches to review penalties? Or review a play where they think a missed penalty may have happened? Would you favor that?

I sure as hell wouldn't, then you might as well have someone officiate from the press box and take all officials out of the game. They do make mistakes, but that was not one of them.

You're as blind as the officials.

 

[the24fan]

Good God people don't you understand the college rule? ANY helmet to helmet contact is A PENALTY REGARDLESS IF TARGETING IS CALLED OR NOT!!
Fact is it was a missed call. I'm not bitching about targeting . But it should have been a penalty regardless. Lomax most definitely has been involved in several of those this season . Luckily got away with it, just like MSU got away with that one ...