'Nothing short of domestic terrorism': Police officers file civil suit against 6 people associated with DSM BLM

[NorthernHawkeye]

'Nothing short of domestic terrorism': Police officers file civil suit against 6 people associated with DSM BLM

The lawsuit alleges members of DSM BLM "diverted police officers from responding to incidents of violence and vandalism and violently 'de-arrested' protesters."

www.kcci.com

 

[IACub]

Good, I'm glad that the protestors on the left that broke the law are being punished.

Now you go.

 

[THE_DEVIL]

Were they on the clock working in an official capacity?

I don't understand. If police are under no obligation to protect anyone then how can this lawsuit have merit?

 

[Jerome Silberman]

Good, I'm glad that the protestors on the left that broke the law are being punished.

Now you go.

They're not being punished, they're being sued for punitive damages with interest.

If they interfered with an official act they should be charged criminally and face punishment by the state, not individual police officers and their lawyers.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Specifically, the lawsuit states that both Stein and Scheumaker put George in a chokehold, preventing him from making an arrest.


That's no bueno

 

[IACub]

They're not being punished, they're being sued for punitive damages with interest.

If they interfered with an official act they should be charged criminally and face punishment by the state, not individual police officers and their lawyers.

Ah, I misread that.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

They're not being punished, they're being sued for punitive damages with interest.

If they interfered with an official act they should be charged criminally and face punishment by the state, not individual police officers and their lawyers.

Why not both?

 

[Jerome Silberman]

Why not both?

The potential conflict of interests and fallout could be catastrophic for that community.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

The potential conflict of interests and fallout could be catastrophic for that community.

Fallout for what community?

 

[mnole03]

I guess we should stop paying police for injuries suffered on the job and just let them seek civil damages. I’m sure police unions will be cool with that.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

I guess we should stop paying police for injuries suffered on the job and just let them seek civil damages. I’m sure police unions will be cool with that.

What actions do you think the cops should have available to them for being choked while attempting to do their job?

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

Can we all come to an agreement that if you write about a new lawsuit you MUST include a link to the new lawsuit?

 

[mnole03]

What actions do you think the cops should have available to them for being choked while attempting to do their job?

They can beat the shit out of the person attempting to choke them.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

They can beat the shit out of the person attempting to joke them.

Noted

 

[Jerome Silberman]

Fallout for what community?

Read the article and take a guess. It'll be fun and informative.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

The potential conflict of interests and fallout could be catastrophic for that community.

????

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

????

Yeah, I don't think he was as articulate as he thought he was.

 

[Jerome Silberman]

Yeah, I don't think he was as articulate as he thought he was.

????

Iowa recognizes The Fireman's Rule.

You're both free to infer anything you like from that fact and my opinion that effectively negating it could potentially lead to unforseen damages to the community.

 

[Hawk_82]

They're not being punished, they're being sued for punitive damages with interest.

If they interfered with an official act they should be charged criminally and face punishment by the state, not individual police officers and their lawyers.

Half of the united states have basically said eff the police, the courts are taking the side of the criminal in too many cases.

I hope these cops win. Being a cop is a hard job and they dont make near enough money to put their lives in danger.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Specifically, the lawsuit states that both Stein and Scheumaker put George in a chokehold, preventing him from making an arrest.


That's no bueno

It's criminal. Are they being criminally charged?

 

[Jerome Silberman]

Half of the united states have basically said eff the police, the courts are taking the side of the criminal in too many cases.

I hope these cops win. Being a cop is a hard job and they dont make near enough money to put their lives in danger.

It's possible that your desired outcome makes all of that worse for everyone, especially police.

I completely agree with your last sentence, but I don't think it's a reason to open the door for civil litigation by police officers performing their official duties against members of the public.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

It's criminal. Are they being criminally charged?

Is this a trick question? What's your boner about?

 

[Jerome Silberman]

What actions do you think the cops should have available to them for being choked while attempting to do their job?

The more relevant question would be, what actions do the police have available to them if they're being choked?

 

[MitchLL]

Half of the united states have basically said eff the police, the courts are taking the side of the criminal in too many cases.

I hope these cops win. Being a cop is a hard job and they dont make near enough money to put their lives in danger.

How much is "enough money"?

 

[Hawk_82]

It's possible that your desired outcome makes all of that worse for everyone, especially police.

I completely agree with your last sentence, but I don't think it's a reason to open the door for civil litigation by police officers performing their official duties against members of the public.

I can appreciate that.

I am discouraged to see these cops found guilty when they are making split second, potentially life saving decisions.

We have to be willing to give police the benefit of the doubt in most situations otherwise we are stripping them of their status. And this only leads to more problems as well.

 

[Hawk_82]

How much is "enough money"?

I dont care if its 1 dollar. The money doesn't matter (at least to me). IMO it is about holding those people accountable. Criminals should not be allowed to get away with this type of stuff.

 

[MitchLL]

I dont care if its 1 dollar. The money doesn't matter (at least to me). IMO it is about holding those people accountable. Criminals should not be allowed to get away with this type of stuff.

But you're the one that mentioned money?

 

[24 so far]

The more relevant question would be, what actions do the police have available to them if they're being choked?

In Libbyland you give the perp(s) your service revolver and offer to buy them milk and cookies and send them on their merry way. (assuming they don't shoot you of course)

In the Land of the Sane, common sense would tell you Law Enforcement has a lot of options. (use your imagination, but don't take long)

 

[Jerome Silberman]

In Libbyland you give the perp(s) your service revolver and offer to buy them milk and cookies and send them on their merry way. (assuming they don't shoot you of course)

In the Land of the Sane, common sense would tell you Law Enforcement has a lot of options. (use your imagination, but don't take long)

I am a liberal and your second paragraph is exactly the point I was making. I don't know why you have to be a partisan @ss, especially since we agree that police officers currently possess a scope of legal options when it comes to dealing with someone choking them.

 

[theiacowtipper]

Half of the united states have basically said eff the police, the courts are taking the side of the criminal in too many cases.

I hope these cops win. Being a cop is a hard job and they dont make near enough money to put their lives in danger.

BS. Half the country my ass. BS about the courts as well. Get back to me when a court doesn’t give blanket sovereign immunity to a police officer from a civil suit, short of shooting someone in cold blood.

 

[lucas80]

Half of the united states have basically said eff the police, the courts are taking the side of the criminal in too many cases.

I hope these cops win. Being a cop is a hard job and they dont make near enough money to put their lives in danger.

Half of the country does not hate cops.

 

[lucas80]

I dont care if its 1 dollar. The money doesn't matter (at least to me). IMO it is about holding those people accountable. Criminals should not be allowed to get away with this type of stuff.

Just asking, how do you feel about the suit filed by the Capitol Hill cops against Donald Trump?

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Is this a trick question? What's your boner about?

I thought the question was pretty clear. Let me check...

"Are. They. Being. Criminally. Charged?"

Yep...clear as a bell. As for your boner problem...can't help you.

 

[lucas80]

IPR is doing a segment on this suit on Talk of Iowa on Friday. Just a PSA for the OP. Hopefully they compare this suit with the one filed by the DC cops against Trump. I expect Northern to be deeply conflicted tomorrow. Or, blindly oblivious.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

IPR is doing a segment on this suit on Talk of Iowa on Friday. Just a PSA for the OP. Hopefully they compare this suit with the one filed by the DC cops against Trump. I expect Northern to be deeply conflicted tomorrow. Or, blindly oblivious.

Thank you. I'm a regular listener to IPR. I'm sure it will be a balanced delivery, LOL!

I've repeatedly condemned January 6.

If you're trying to compare the lawsuits, shouldn't the troopers then be filing suit on the numerous leftwing political leaders that spurred on and fomented the activities of that time frame?

 

[doughuddl2]

How much is "enough money"?

Well BLM has plenty of money. Make it hurt.