Career averages not shooting the ball:
reb - 5.5
ast - 0.8
stl - 0.5
blk - 0.3
win shares - 2.25
Pemsl's win shares were 2.4 last year.
This is one of the most disappointing posts of all time. Woodbury is a fellow Hawk, worked his ass off, was a great spokesman for the University, is a very smart player, great leader on the court, and very good defensive player. He did have a few deficiencies, but who gives a crap. Tired of the bashing of former players.
I don't know how 'fans' can say Woody was a poor player. Without him, we have 'none' of the big wins of the 2015 team- NONE! He was as big a part defensively of that team as Uthoff was offensively. What in fact the 2016 team was missing was a center who could play D like Woody. I'm hoping Garza can fill that void with an improved Kriener. But I doubt they'll be quite as good on the defensive end. Hopefully, they'll make up for that offensively.
DanL, I had a similar evaluation of Nunge being able to play the 3. But remember, we had White and Uthoff playing the 3 on teams that had great defensive stats. Nunge's 'Baer-like' qualities put it over the top.
To me this points out the underlying truth about the 2017 class: none of them 'have' to make major contributions this year for the team to challenge for the NCAAs. And this is a class of two 4* players and a third with all the plaudits mentioned here and who probably has more upside than any of them. However, if one or more of them does make big contributions, watch out. Because they will have taken minutes from guys capable of playing on a tourney challenger this coming year with only one senior.
True, and although we miss Woody's interior defense, he was not a," Great Rebounder".
8.5rb/gm on a P5 team might be considered great rebounding. The last guys at Iowa who averaged more than that were Greg Bruner and Reggie Evans.
I'm sure when he said we were weak at the three it was from a scoring perspective, as a team is more functional when it can score from all positions. Your list of available players is long on options, but most are not viable scorers. Uhl, who knows what we'll get. Wagner and Williams are not wing scorers at all. We have no idea what Dailey is at this point. Being super deep doesn't mean there's a lot of names on the page. I'd think Nunge will get a look at the three and four next year, and I'd be shocked if he redshirted.
I'd assume that was his senior year, but even that sounds high. As HawkAttack posted I think his career average as a four year starter was 5.5. Perhaps others will have a different view, but never considered Woody a great rebounder as a 7 footer. Certainly not in the Reggie Evans category. He was a great rebounder.
You really don't understand the game....look in the mirror and tell yourself that. It will help you...I promise
Dan's point is a very good one. Centers and power forwards did not set up in the lane when Woody was in the game. He kept them out. Guards rarely took the ball to the rim when Woody was in the game although Woody was not known as a shotblocker. Woody had short arms and some limitations, was not a good shooter. But aside from shooting I am at a loss to find any aspect of his game that was not really solid. His help defense and help the helper defense was simply outstanding. He nearly always was a right place right time kind of guy on defense. That is really hard to teach and frankly, Iowa really struggled with this for much of the year. If you couldn't see this then I am not sure what to say.
understand the game more than you will ever . you must live in an alternate reality .
OK, so explain the difference.
he did entertain me , i laughed every time he got blocked by the rim trying to dunk .
but you never saw me officiate , i watched woody play for 4 years . for a seven footer and being a 4 star i was disappointed in his career at iowa . i have never said that he was not a person of character nor did i question his leadership skills . for someone that hung around the rim as much as a couple of you have said i would have thought he would have averaged more than 5.5 rebounds a game or 6.2 points . after going back and looking at some of the posts that have been made about woody over the years there is a couple of you on here bitching about my post that are 2 faced SOBs .
So there are two possibilities from this final statement.
I'd have to admit Dan that I hadn't thought much about minutes played, especially when he was splitting time with Gabe. You make a compelling argument there. Haas is overated by many. He's huge, but he has limited mobility, and gets tired easliy.
