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This. Against the Lynx, she had that steal and fast break and tried a super low percentage wrap around type pass instead of going up for the layup.

The defender was playing the pass, do just needed to take the shot.
Yup and based on what she said in the post game she recognized her mistake. Hopefully it won't happen again. One thing about Clark, a big part of the reason she got so good is she rarely makes the same mental mistake twice.
 
While watching the Fever this season I've occasionally paid attention to their opponents. And one thing that has struck me about the WNBA is that there are about 5 good players and the rest are generally unskilled doofuses. So while Smith may appear to be an awful player in a vacuum, it's not like the bigs on the other team are any better. It's a league full of JaVale McGees without the athleticism.
Maybe true, BUT Smith was the 2nd pick of the draft the year before Boston, and she's a starter. If you could play her 10-15 minutes per game okay, but thats not what your looking for from that high a draft pick.
 
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My problem with Smith is how undisciplined she is. With Caitlin, assuming she has a couple of other options to pass to on the break, in the half court she is better with a highly predictable plodder like Monica than Smith who you have no idea what will do with the ball other than shoot it. Meaning, she doesn't really like to pass and she makes some bizarre choices with the basketball, not valuing possessions. Dantas can fill the the role of Monica.
Dantas was a nice in season pick up. Can definitely provide the 10-14 minutes a game at backup Center or even a little Power Forward as needed. Stretches the floor also, so a totally different look than with Boston. Without her we would have nobody at the backup 5.
 
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I’ve heard many pundits say CC had to adjust to the speed of the game. I’ve always thought the others needed to catch up with Caitlin’s speed of the game. I feel confident I was right. Ppl greatly underestimated her and I wish I’d kept receipts.
It's certainly been a little bit of both. Go look at the beginning of the season again see how many times she just got her pocket picked cleanly or they were able to jump her on the quick double team. Rarely ( if ever) happens anymore. She sees the quick run out on her and now she's one step ahead of the game. Again, I don't think Sides totally trusted her to hand the keys over to her for 40 minutes earlier, as I'm guessing like most coaches she's a bit of a control freak. It's easy for us to say. I think she realized the more she tried to reign her in the worse and the team played.
 
My order of protection for the expansion draft
  1. Clark - duh
  2. Mitchell - Before the past month she'd be further down the list but has been working great with Clark and playing within the offense lately. However if she gives indications that she isn't going to re-sign then she definitely moves below Boston.
  3. Boston - Bigs are easier to find which is why I listed the guards above her, but I'd still want to keep her.
  4. Hull - Earned the protection and still on rookie contract.
  5. Dantas - relatively cheap and plays her role as a backup well, plus a positive shooter for a big.
  6. Temi - Relatively cheap as a backup, shooting skills hold her back.
  7. KLS - Hoping she gets better another year post-pregnancy, but wouldn't mind if someone took her and her bad contract. She'd be a spot or two higher if not for the contract.
  8. Wheeler - I'd consider resigning her on a cheap contract but wouldn't be sad if she left.
  9. Smith - I'm hoping someone takes her off the roster to free up a spot.
  10. Berger - Who knows her value? Does it matter?
  11. Wallace - Gone soon anyway.
  12. Saxton - No value other than being on a cheap contract.
I agree with #7 an #10.
 
She's not a high volume shooter, but her % are nice. Does Sides need her to shoot more?
I would say every time Hull is out there and a ball ends up in Smith's, Dantas's, or KLS's hands out on the perimeter, at the end of shot clock, it is a shot that Hull, Caitlin, or Mitchell needs to be taking. How that shakes out I'm not sure, but it is more than she's shooting now.
 
It's certainly been a little bit of both. Go look at the beginning of the season again see how many times she just got her pocket picked cleanly or they were able to jump her on the quick double team. Rarely ( if ever) happens anymore. She sees the quick run out on her and now she's one step ahead of the game. Again, I don't think Sides totally trusted her to hand the keys over to her for 40 minutes earlier, as I'm guessing like most coaches she's a bit of a control freak. It's easy for us to say. I think she realized the more she tried to reign her in the worse and the team played.
This is probably accurate. And to say that I didn't expect there to be some growing pains would be untrue. Where I think the surprise is on how quickly she adapted. I think the normal span of time is 3 years to get up to speed and she basically did it in half a season. So, if you use the 3 year scale, imagine where she's going to be in 2027.

I look at all these career stat records she is blowing through in less than a season and it almost cheapens the league. She is that much better than anyone in the league? Or is that just more evidence on why nobody paid attention to the WNBA for 30 years. Maybe we shouldn't expect everyone to be like Clark but for multiple career stats to be broken in a player's rookie season kind of sounds like the bar on those stats was pretty low. Or maybe not. Because after Clark is done many of those career records may be looked at as unbreakable. 10 years of stats that would break the previous career stat records every year? Good luck.
 
This is probably accurate. And to say that I didn't expect there to be some growing pains would be untrue. Where I think the surprise is on how quickly she adapted. I think the normal span of time is 3 years to get up to speed and she basically did it in half a season. So, if you use the 3 year scale, imagine where she's going to be in 2027.

I look at all these career stat records she is blowing through in less than a season and it almost cheapens the league. She is that much better than anyone in the league? Or is that just more evidence on why nobody paid attention to the WNBA for 30 years. Maybe we shouldn't expect everyone to be like Clark but for multiple career stats to be broken in a player's rookie season kind of sounds like the bar on those stats was pretty low. Or maybe not. Because after Clark is done many of those career records may be looked at as unbreakable. 10 years of stats that would break the previous career stat records every year? Good luck.
One thing to remember is that the league didn’t play 40 games in a season until recently, so the records in terms of totals are gonna skew to the low side.

Still, even when you look at them on a per game basis, many of them are just simply not very good. Sue Bird holds the career record for total number of assists. She averaged 5.8 per game over her career. Are you kidding me? Barring disaster, Caitlin will blow past that in 40% fewer games, if not sooner. Vandersloot will break it first, but she’s only averaging 6.7. Caitlin is simply playing a game these women have never played before.

DT is the all time scoring leader while averaging 18.9 a game. That’s a joke, right? A’Ja is currently #1 on a per game basis, but still only at a pretty modest 21.0 (granted, she’s going to continue to drive that number up over her career). It’s very telling that these records are falling as quickly as they are.
 
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She's not a high volume shooter, but her % are nice. Does Sides need her to shoot more?
She is shooting 70% post all star by taking the open shots and making the extra pass when she is guarded. A few more 3s would be great, but we’d rather have CC or Mitchell take the hard shots.
 
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This is probably accurate. And to say that I didn't expect there to be some growing pains would be untrue. Where I think the surprise is on how quickly she adapted. I think the normal span of time is 3 years to get up to speed and she basically did it in half a season. So, if you use the 3 year scale, imagine where she's going to be in 2027.

I look at all these career stat records she is blowing through in less than a season and it almost cheapens the league. She is that much better than anyone in the league? Or is that just more evidence on why nobody paid attention to the WNBA for 30 years. Maybe we shouldn't expect everyone to be like Clark but for multiple career stats to be broken in a player's rookie season kind of sounds like the bar on those stats was pretty low. Or maybe not. Because after Clark is done many of those career records may be looked at as unbreakable. 10 years of stats that would break the previous career stat records every year? Good luck.
What is fascinating to me has been how quickly she did acclimate. She didn't adapt to the league and how it it is played. She just figured out how to play her game and to have the team figure out how each of their game plays off of her.
I think Sides initially wanted CC to fit into her system. It wasn't pretty early, with the schedule and little practice time. I also remember reports, not long after the 1-8 start, that Lisa B. had a meeting with the Fever. Maybe to pick her brain on what did work for CC in the team concept. Either way, once CC began to push the tempo and sometimes just create offense, things changed. They still struggle with it and that may just be the personel on the roster. They need to lean into adapting the roster and how it works with CC. Time will tell.
 
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67 records Caitlin Clark has set so far this season (from Clark Report):

1. Fastest player to record 100 points and 50 assists: 8 games

2. Fastest player to record 150+ points, 50+ rebounds, and 50+ assists: 10 games

3. Fastest player to record 200+ points and 50+ assists: 12 games

4. Fastest player to record 200+ points, 75+ rebounds, and 75+ assists: 15 games

5. Fastest player to record 250+ points and 100+ assists: 17 games

6. Fastest player to record 300+ points, 100+ rebounds, and 100+ assists: 19 games

7. Fastest player to record 350+ points and 150+ assists: 22 games

8. First rookie to record 15+ points, 9+ rebounds, and 12+ assists in a single game (June 30, 2024, vs. Phoenix Mercury)

9. First rookie to record 15+ points, 10+ assists, and 5+ three-pointers in a single game (June 23, 2024, vs. Chicago Sky)

10. First rookie to record 30 points, 5 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 steals, and 3 blocks in a single game (May 28, 2024, vs. Los Angeles Sparks)

11. First rookie to record 350 points, 100 rebounds, and 150 assists in rookie season (2024; achieved in 22 games)

12. First rookie to record a triple-double (July 6, 2024, vs. New York Liberty)

13. First player in Franchise History to record a triple-double (July 6, 2024, vs. New York Liberty)

14. First rookie with consecutive games recording 10+ points, 5+ rebounds, and 10+ assists (June 30 and July 2, 2024)

15. Youngest player to record 30+ points, 5+ rebounds, 5+ assists, and 5+ three-pointers made in single game: 22 years, 4 months, 16 days (June 7, 2024, vs. Washington Mystics)

16. Youngest player to record a double-double with points and assists in back-to-back games: 22 years, 5 months, 11 days (June 30 and July 2, 2024)

17. Most point-assist double-doubles in WNBA history by a rookie: 4 (July 6, 2024, vs. New York Liberty)

18. Franchise Single-season rookie leader in assists (2024)

19. Franchise Single-game leader in assists: 13 (June 23, 2024, vs. Chicago Sky)

20. Franchise Single-game rookie leader in three-point field goals made: 7 (June 7, 2024, vs. Washington Mystics)

21. Rookie Record for Most Consecutive match with at least ONE 3pt made (22 and ongoing)

22. Franchise record for most Point-Assist Double Double in a season (4)

23. All-Time Franchise record for Point-Assist Double Doubles (4)

24. Most 15+ Pts, 5+ Ast, 5+Ast games for a Rookie in a season (10 & Counting)

25. Fever Franchise record for most consecutive 10 / 5 /5 games (5)

26. First player in WNBA and NBA history to record 25+ points, 10+ assists, 5+ rebounds, 5+ steals, and 5+ three-pointers in a single game (July 10, 2024, vs. Washington Mystics)

27. ONLY rookie in WNBA history with multiple games of 20+ points and 10+ assists in a season

28. Most double-doubles by a rookie guard in WNBA history

29. First rookie in WNBA history to record 400 PTS + 100 REB + 150 AST

30. Franchise record for most assists (7) in a single quarter in the first quarter

31. Most 20 PTS | 5 REB | 5 AST games by a Rookie in a Season in WNBA history

32. Most Consecutive games with 5+ AST by a Rookie in WNBA History

33. Most Consecutive games with 10+ AST by a Rookie in WNBA History

34. Only Rookie to score 400 PTS and 200 AST in WNBA History

35. Tied Fastest Player to reach 200 AST (26 Games, tied with Ticha Penicheiro)

36. Fastest Player to reach 400 PTS & 200 AST (26 Games)

37. Most Points scored or Assisted in a single game in WNBA history (66)

38. Most Points scored or assisted by a rookie in a single season (915+)

39. Most assists in a single season in Indiana Fever history

40. Most assists in a single game in WNBA history (19)

41. Most assists by a Rookie in a single game in WNBA history (19)

42. Most assists in a single game in Indiana Fever history (19)

43. 1st player with 20+ PTS, 15+ AST, and 5+ REB in a WNBA game

44. Most Assist in a Half (11 , tied with Ticha Penicheiro)

45. WNBA All-Star Game rookie record for Assist (10 AST)

46. Most 10+ Assist Games in Indiana Fever Franchise History (not just a single season but entire history) - 7 (and counting)

47. 1st player in WNBA history to record 50+ PTS & 25+ AST in a 2 game span

48. WNBA rookie record for most games with 25+ PTS , 5+ REB, 10+ AST

49. WNBA rookie record for most assists in a season

50. Indiana Fever Franchise Rookie record for most 3-point made

51. 1st WNBA rookie to reach 500+ PTS 200+ AST 150+ REB in a season

52. Fastest Player to reach 500 PTS 200 AST in WNBA history

53. Most 15 PTS 5 AST games in a season (21 and counting)

54. Rookie Record for most 3PM in a season

55. Most Consecutive 15-5-5 games in WNBA History

56. Rookie Record for most games with 10+ AST in a season

57. Fever Franchise Rookie record for most 30+ PTS game in a single season

58. Fever Franchise record for for consecutive matches with 1+ 3PM

59. Fever Rookie record for Highest APG in a season

60. Fever Franchise record for Highest APG in a season

61. Fever Franchise Rookie record for most 25+ PTS game in a single season

62. Longest span averaging 25 points + 10 assists in WNBA history (5 games)

63. Most 25 point + 10 assist games in a season in WNBA history

64. First rookie in WNBA or NBA history to be ‘Player of the Week’ for three consecutive weeks

65. First player in WNBA history to have a season recording: 500+ PTS 250+ AST 75+ 3PM

66. First player in WNBA history to have multiple career games with: 25+ PTS 10+ AST 5+ 3PM

67. 1st rookie to record 450+ PTS & 200+ AST in WNBA History


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Which poster do you guys think will melt down the most over this tonight?


Respectfully, it sure would be nice if politics would stay on the Off Topic board.

I don't see any reason why the Trump/Harris debate (and who liked a tweet about it) needs to be brought over to WBB forum (or to any of the sports forums).
 
Respectfully, it sure would be nice if politics would stay on the Off Topic board.

I don't see any reason why the Trump/Harris debate (and who liked a tweet about it) needs to be brought over to WBB forum (or to any of the sports forums).
It was the liking of an endorsement of Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Harris by Clark, Also respectfully, there’s been a lot of BS political narratives spun on this board and other social media using Caitlin as a pawn. My question wasn’t even political, simply a question over who will be most triggered by this revelation.
 
Maybe true, BUT Smith was the 2nd pick of the draft the year before Boston, and she's a starter. If you could play her 10-15 minutes per game okay, but thats not what your looking for from that high a draft pick.
she's played 2 years as a paid professional and has 0 post moves. She turns right and shots right handed. She has so many flaws, she must do nothing in the offseason.
 
It was the liking of an endorsement of Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Harris by Clark, Also respectfully, there’s been a lot of BS political narratives spun on this board and other social media using Caitlin as a pawn. My question wasn’t even political, simply a question over who will be most triggered by this revelation.
There has been a lot of political narratives using her as a pawn. In June, she tried to shut those down, and said she is just here to play basketball - and that she can't control her name being used in non-sports topics. However, liking a post is something she can control - and now unfortunately for her, her name will be weaponized for more non sports related topics. For her own sake, I wish she would have just stayed consistent with what she said three months ago.

 
There has been a lot of political narratives using her as a pawn. In June, she tried to shut those down, and said she is just here to play basketball - and that she can't control her name being used in non-sports topics. However, liking a post is something she can control - and now unfortunately for her, her name will be weaponized for more non sports related topics. For her own sake, I wish she would have just stayed consistent with what she said three months ago.


She also made it clear that she doesn't agree with for racism or misogyny and her liking that Taylor Swift endorsement is just reinforcing that message.

 
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