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**** Official Israel War thread****

Agree, but, I believe that the percentage of people who disavow such violence is much greater in the "western branch of presboluthernism" than in Gaza and the rest of the Islamic world.

The killers here are still considered kooks and "mentally unstable" (must not mention the gun!) people in our world, not chosen ones and martyrs doing allah's bidding
The gay nightclub killer in Florida was a …….not Christian…..not Jew……??? Cmon
 
I fully support Israel's right to defend themselves. I support them going into the Gaza Strip if that is what they decide to do. Some of you need to understand that you are talking about 2+ million people of all ages in a a patch of land as long as it is from IC to CR, and 2.5 miles wide from each side of I-380. It's going to be messy, and Israel will quickly lose a lot of support. Israel cannot win this militarily. They've tried to occupy Gaza before, and failed. They've gone into Gaza since they pulled out, and here they are again. There has to be a lasting move to end the Palestinian question, or they'll be back in Gaza again. I have no sympathy for anyone who went into Israel over the weekend but when we see the neighborhoods of Gaza City being pummeled, and kids running with their moms and dads, those kids are going to grow up to be the next wave of terrorists.
Those kids are the next wave of terrorists regardless of what Israel does.
 
Iran. Is. Involved.
Also don’t forget that Iran is very much opposed to the positive talks between Israel and Saudi Arabia and funding terrorism against Israel obstructs/halts/distracts from progress on that front.
Might be. Are you saying the others aren't? You are really dumb,
 
Fair enough, to degree and to the numbers, but don't discount the anger. Go to deep, dark places in the web. See what is being said by people who have taken Jesus Christ as their lord and savior and are willing to shoot up a gay night club to prove how committed they are.
Look at this fire over here - don’t look at the fire some bad guys started over there?
 
Look at this fire over here - don’t look at the fire some bad guys started over there?
Nope, fire is fire. If it helps you to ignore religious inspired violence in other parts of the world in order to feel superior, go for it.
 
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Hate trans people. Hate gays. Don't want women to be equal... That isn't exclusive to some Muslims, by the way. It's a lot of US religious leaders, too.
Link to last stoning to death of women accused (not convicted) of adultery?
Link to last execution of women lined up in a sports stadium and shot in the back of the head?
Link to beheadings posted on social media by fundamentalist preachers?
Link to women beaten in the streets of the USA for not wearing head to toe clothing or just going to school?

Dumb dumb dumb.
 
Link to last stoning to death of women accused (not convicted) of adultery?
Link to last execution of women lined up in a sports stadium and shot in the back of the head?
Link to beheadings posted on social media by fundamentalist preachers?
Link to women beaten in the streets of the USA for not wearing head to toe clothing or just going to school?

Dumb dumb dumb.
What poster has agreed with that? You are going off the deep end like gohox. You are making shit up.
 
Just stick to dodge ball.
Answer the questions. If you’re soooooooo brilliant…far more intelligent than a lowly teacher with no education whatsoever…it should be easy for you.

Except you’re a dupe. 2 time voter for a rapist treasonous conman. I teach 1st graders smarter than your dumbass.
 
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Es see

Don’t want one, want them to stay over there or be peaceful and freedom loving
Evangelical Christians, in America, aren’t freedom loving. In case you didn’t notice, it’s there way or the highway…much like radical Islam. Lots of “good Christians” want to eliminate the way people like me think. They think people against Trump, like Milley, should be executed. They’re basically as shitty.
 
Lol you mean like last week when you and others tried to say people don’t smoke fentanyl?

Also, I work with lots of Indians, with some being great friends. I would never claim to have an understanding of their culture.

You’re not nearly as smart as you think you are.
Were you talking about the fentanyl that comes across our borders? You know, the 86% that’s smuggled across by AMERICAN CITIZENS?
 
I’m just going on a bunch here but somehow I doubt he’s balled up in a corner with a box of Kleenex.
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Can you provide an answer? Please show me where any poster has agreed with your statement? This isn't hard.
The constant validation you guys need.

"Hey, do any of the guys who call everyone who doesn't carry Biden's water a 'Russian bot' think that me, globo, is a Russian bot?!

Guys? Guys?!"
 
Iran. Is. Involved.
Also don’t forget that Iran is very much opposed to the positive talks between Israel and Saudi Arabia and funding terrorism against Israel obstructs/halts/distracts from progress on that front.
I agree but right now the US and Israel don’t have the proof. When they get it, I’m ready for Iran to pay a price. I’m over those assholes.
 
Hate trans people. Hate gays. Don't want women to be equal... That isn't exclusive to some Muslims, by the way. It's a lot of US religious leaders, too.

Throughout history religion has had many dark days and caused many lives to be lost. I personally have a love hate relationship with religion. Do I have major concerns of some of the religious leader in the US, you bet. That said I'm not sure now (in this thread) is the time to discuss that topic. The reason I feel that way is because I don't want any of the actions performed by the terrorists to be view as "normal". Let's not compare the terrorist to US Religious people.. At a later date we can compare the US religious leaders to the terrorists.
 
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Bibi should have bombed Iran long ago. Those dicks have been building nukes underground for at least a decade. Enjoy that shitfest.

The war in Ukraine would have been more favorable to the Ukrainians if Iran's war making machine were in ashes.
 
Fair enough, to degree and to the numbers, but don't discount the anger. Go to deep, dark places in the web. See what is being said by people who have taken Jesus Christ as their lord and savior and are willing to shoot up a gay night club to prove how committed they are.
Interesting choice.

Orlando Police Dispatcher (OD): Emergency 911, this is being recorded.
Shooter (OM): In the name of God the Merciful, the beneficial [in Arabic]
OD: What?
OM: Praise be to God, and prayers as well as peace be upon the prophet of God [in Arabic]. I let you know, I’m in Orlando and I did the shootings.
OD: What’s your name?
OM: My name is I pledge of allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi of the Islamic State..
OD: Ok, What’s your name?
OM: I pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi may God protect him [Arabic], on behalf of the Islamic State.
OD: Alright, where are you at?
OM: In Orlando.
OD: Where in Orlando?[End of call.]
 
Evangelical Christians, in America, aren’t freedom loving. In case you didn’t notice, it’s there way or the highway…much like radical Islam. Lots of “good Christians” want to eliminate the way people like me think. They think people against Trump, like Milley, should be executed. They’re basically as shitty.
You are seriously comparing radical Islam, or Islam, with evangelical Christians. Everything you say from here on out is a joke. Evangelicals aren’t bombing, terrorizing, killing. They are anti trans and at worst anti gay marriage and anti abortion….. oh the huge manatee. See how well your line of thought would work in Iran
 
Interesting choice.

Orlando Police Dispatcher (OD): Emergency 911, this is being recorded.
Shooter (OM): In the name of God the Merciful, the beneficial [in Arabic]
OD: What?
OM: Praise be to God, and prayers as well as peace be upon the prophet of God [in Arabic]. I let you know, I’m in Orlando and I did the shootings.
OD: What’s your name?
OM: My name is I pledge of allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi of the Islamic State..
OD: Ok, What’s your name?
OM: I pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi may God protect him [Arabic], on behalf of the Islamic State.
OD: Alright, where are you at?
OM: In Orlando.
OD: Where in Orlando?[End of call.]
I loved that he said that, stepped right in shit and made our case for us.
 
I loved that he said that, stepped right in shit and made our case for us.
I don't blame him. Obama's FBI initially tried to hide the killer's motive while the press focused falsely on the LBGT angle.
They actually released redacted transcripts initially.
Muddy the waters enough and a significant percentage of the population will form false memories.

Certainly don't want people to focus on how neocon interventions abroad generate terrorism for us at home:

Indeed, while inside Pulse, his extensive discussions with police negotiators, who continually asked him what he wanted, focused exclusively on demands that the U.S., along with Russia, cease airstrikes and the killing of civilians in Afghanistan, Syria, and Iraq. “Because you have to tell America to stop bombing Syria and Iraq. They are killing a lot of innocent people,” he said during his first call to 911. “What am I to do here when my people are getting killed over there. … You need to stop the U.S. airstrikes. They need to stop the U.S. airstrikes, OK? . … This went down, a lot of innocent women and children are getting killed in Syria and Iraq and Afghanistan, OK? … The airstrikes need to stop and stop collaborating with Russia. OK?”
 
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I agree but right now the US and Israel don’t have the proof. When they get it, I’m ready for Iran to pay a price. I’m over those assholes.

( I didn't mean to write this much...knew a lot alo of the below but started as me taking notes for a point I didn't even make)

Dang

History has taught us since the time of Mohammed the policies of the Muslim religion was to increase its reach by war. It didn't take them very long to take over the middle east and move in Europe, Africa, and towards Asia.

They were in Europe before the Vikings were in Britian...that's how long this has been going on.

Jerusalem has been around since about 3500 bc...first became under (what was to become) the Jewish religion around 1000 bc under David. All historical artifacts and written documents suggest that the people already living there remained...property intact...and over time became one with the Jewish people.

Jerusalem jumps around in who controls what for long periods of time....Jews probably would have been better suited not having claimed a place that was right in the path of any new strong army no matter which direction they were expanding.

So Arabs finally claim the place around 638...up to this point it was basically Jewish and Christian.

Arabs really step up in 1099...kicked out the Christians....crusades happen...Muslims and Jews are killed or flee...then the area jumps back and forth on who controls what...but mostly ends up just being Jews, Christians, and Muslims living together.


1920s come, Britian gets control...population triples, mosty Jewish....this is where the modern problems start. It gets basically as bad as now locally.

The new UN steps in...splits up the two groups and tell each to go live in its own corner...the new Israel is born...and shit has been basically the same there when it comes to war and fighting as it has been for 3 thousand years....non stop.
 
Point I didn't make...there is nowhere in history that demonstrates that those that live in the Gaza strip...have any more of a right to the area as the Jewish population. The Muslim religion didn't even exist when David set up camp.

...also...that area has been in constant war for all recorded history.
 
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