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Tom you do realize the White House has stated that they can’t guarantee the money will be used for humanitarian sources? Also, we could pull the money back now that the rules have changed.
Another thing...you want us to believe that the leaders in Iran don't have enough money to fund Hamas without that 6 billion. That's silly too. They're loaded. They don't need that cash to cause major problems for Israel, and ultimately the US.
 
Another thing...you want us to believe that the leaders in Iran don't have enough money to fund Hamas without that 6 billion. That's silly too. They're loaded. They don't need that cash to cause major problems for Israel, and ultimately the US.
So why are you so passionate about not freezing this asset? We should pull back all the money we can.
 
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I don't think I ever intimated that.
But you're a vet I believe. Ultimately, nothing is clean in war. This is what was wanted by Hamas. They honestly don't give 2 shits about their own people and hide in civilian centers.
This punk assed bitch, steaming pile of shit is a Vet of nothing! Last night, the asshole was laughing about the 1983 bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut!
 
I know you aren't that bright so please allow me to hold your hand through the explanation. Bad things perpetrated by Christians is not the same thing as bad things perpetrated in the name of Christianity. Was that simple enough for you to understand?
Operation Rescue was mainstream fundy Christian at one time. They had to be sued out of existence. Bush Sr. set up a special FBI taskforce to deal just with the terrorist aspect of them. They did it in Jesus name and were supported financially by good God fearing Jesus loving Christians.
Uganda has also been supported by good God fearing Christians in Jesus's name. Ted Cruz got admonished by some for saying what Uganda is doing is wrong and against Jesus's teachings. I may not be very bright. Never claimed to be , but I try to be less ignorant of reality. U could make the case in your line of logic that there is a difference between some Muslims doing a bad thing than an entire religion as well.
 
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Another thing...you want us to believe that the leaders in Iran don't have enough money to fund Hamas without that 6 billion. That's silly too. They're loaded. They don't need that cash to cause major problems for Israel, and ultimately the US.
Do you give armed robbers their gun back when they are out of jail?
 
Blame? No. Did he weaken Israel by purposefully dividing it to craft an extremely narrow majority to rule with in order to keep himself out of prison? Yes.
fair enough

I just think looking for the opportunity to play the "blame game" while expected is unfortunate.

That goes for R's blaming Joe.

It was Hamas/Iran.
 
Operation Rescue was mainstream fundy Christian at one time. They had to be sued out of existence. Bush Sr. set up a special FBI taskforce to deal just with the terrorist aspect of them. They did it in Jesus name and were supported financially by good God fearing Jesus loving Christians.
Uganda has also been supported by good God fearing Christians in Jesus's name. Ted Cruz got admonished by some for saying what Uganda is doing is wrong and against Jesus's teachings. I may not be very bright. Never claimed to be , but I try to be less ignorant of reality. U could make the case in your line of logic that there is a difference between some Muslims doing a bad thing than an entire religion as well.
Why do you try and rationalize the horrific actions of Islamists by saying, " ya but Christians". It's completely unnecessary and untrue, so please, just move on.
 
Blame? No. Did he weaken Israel by purposefully dividing it to craft an extremely narrow majority to rule with in order to keep himself out of prison? Yes.
Do you mean like allowing thousands or millions of illegal immigrants to pass through our southern border without knowing who they are or why they are coming, because they might vote for dems in the future? Or do you mean scaring millions with misleading and partial information on covid to control people or claiming everything is racist and white people are inherently racist?

Are those the type of dangerous and harmful acts a political party uses just to gain or stay in power?
 
Curious, am I the only one who thinks Israel is an occupying force?

I have no qualms with Hamas pursuing military targets (it’s way across the line to go after civilian targets and I’m not defending that).

But I’m curious,

if the UN decided that Michigan really belongs to a specific ethnic group (French Canadians for purpose of example), and created a new country out of it, but the people in the upper peninsula weren’t French Canadian, but were run by the Michigan government, wouldnt you consider the people of the upper peninsula as victims? And what would you do if you were one of them?
 

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Israel TEXTS civilians warning them to flee Gaza to south as vast army gathers to crush ‘ISIS-like’ Hamas & 3,000 killed​

 
Why do you try and rationalize the horrific actions of Islamists by saying, " ya but Christians". It's completely unnecessary and untrue, so please, just move on.
I didn't rationalize. My point is from the beginning was all extremists are bad and fudged up. Someone was saying Christianity doesn't have extremists blowing shit up. Which is false. Watch Charlie Wilson's War. The CIA agent played by Phillip Seymour Hoffman hates fundamentalists being involved. His reasoning is they can rationalize atrocities into serving God's Will.
America has that happen with abortion clinics, drag show shoot ups, and pray the gay away torture therapy.
Lots of fundamentalists want to bring more of Jesus and Christianity into government. Which sounds good until u ask what particular interpretation.
 
Curious, am I the only one who thinks Israel is an occupying force?

I have no qualms with Hamas pursuing military targets (it’s way across the line to go after civilian targets and I’m not defending that).

But I’m curious,

if the UN decided that Michigan really belongs to a specific ethnic group (French Canadians for purpose of example), and created a new country out of it, but the people in the upper peninsula weren’t French Canadian, but were run by the Michigan government, wouldnt you consider the people of the upper peninsula as victims? And what would you do if you were one of them?

Israel was 80% Jewish in 1948....before the UN stepped in....and they had a 3000 year history on that land.

Would you have rather the area went to the 20% with less history on the land?
 
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Curious, am I the only one who thinks Israel is an occupying force?

I have no qualms with Hamas pursuing military targets (it’s way across the line to go after civilian targets and I’m not defending that).

But I’m curious,

if the UN decided that Michigan really belongs to a specific ethnic group (French Canadians for purpose of example), and created a new country out of it, but the people in the upper peninsula weren’t French Canadian, but were run by the Michigan government, wouldnt you consider the people of the upper peninsula as victims? And what would you do if you were one of them?
Ya know, I'd sympathize with the Yoopers and do what I could to find a peaceful resolution....until the Yoopers decided to come over to, say, Traverse City and start decapitating children.

Then I may just say, ya know what, let's level the place and start over.
 
Passing on a false narrative. Refusal to learn. You're pathetic. STOP LYING.

WHERE IS THE $6 BILLION NOW?​

The funds were not dispersed to Iran. Qatar's central bank is overseeing the funds, which are still in Doha.

"The facts are these — no U.S. taxpayer dollars were involved," Blinken told CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday. "These were Iranian resources that Iran had accumulated from the sale of its oil that were stuck in a bank in South Korea."

Under the terms of the Iran prisoner deal, the money can only be used for humanitarian-related purposes, including purchasing food or other goods outside Iran for import, U.S. officials said.

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Dude. You've posted the same thing 20 times. They are not listening to you so stop giving them the time of day. You are banging your head against a brick wall and it's you that is not learning. They will not change their minds so stop engaging.
 
Do you mean like allowing thousands or millions of illegal immigrants to pass through our southern border without knowing who they are or why they are coming, because they might vote for dems in the future? Or do you mean scaring millions with misleading and partial information on covid to control people or claiming everything is racist and white people are inherently racist?

Are those the type of dangerous and harmful acts a political party uses just to gain or stay in power?
You forgot CRT and Marxist homo groomers.
 
Curious, am I the only one who thinks Israel is an occupying force?

I have no qualms with Hamas pursuing military targets (it’s way across the line to go after civilian targets and I’m not defending that).

But I’m curious,

if the UN decided that Michigan really belongs to a specific ethnic group (French Canadians for purpose of example), and created a new country out of it, but the people in the upper peninsula weren’t French Canadian, but were run by the Michigan government, wouldnt you consider the people of the upper peninsula as victims? And what would you do if you were one of them?
They aren't for Gaza, at least. Gaza was part of an independent Palestine in the original 2 state plan from 70 years ago. So Israel leaving Gaza to largely govern itself is following the UN peace plan. But the Gazans elected to be ruled by terrorists who want war, so here we are.
 

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Israel TEXTS civilians warning them to flee Gaza to south as vast army gathers to crush ‘ISIS-like’ Hamas & 3,000 killed​

They aren't allowed into Egypt, that's part of the ongoing problem. Israel knows this.
 
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From what I am hearing number one thing they did, wait for it, was zero communications electronically. Everything planned face to face.
Israel used to have assets in the occupied areas. Was there an over reliance on electronic measures? Did false intel come in through human sources? Lots of questions to answer.
 
With these reports coming out….this isn’t just some terror attack….this is evil, pure evil. The worst of humanity….the kind that we rarely see aside from in Germany in the 1940’s and NYC on 9/11. It has nothing to do with politics or Israel….this is a horrific assault on humanity.

I have no problems with whatever Israel will do in response to this. And Palestine has elected Hammas leadership before…so to act like they are not at a minimum complicit in this is a bit disingenuous.
 
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