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**** Official Israel War thread****

Once this phase is over, there will need to be analysis of how Egypt, and Jordan failed to see this coming. Along with Israel, both of those countries failed miserably.
Massive intel failures for sure.

Makes me think Hamas/Hezbollah probably has infiltrated/turned a lot of intel human assets. Probably been in the works for years.
 
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It’s obvious people can’t live in this world together. Time to pull the plug. Before ours kids heads get chopped off 🤮.
 
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Curious, am I the only one who thinks Israel is an occupying force?

I have no qualms with Hamas pursuing military targets (it’s way across the line to go after civilian targets and I’m not defending that).

But I’m curious,

if the UN decided that Michigan really belongs to a specific ethnic group (French Canadians for purpose of example), and created a new country out of it, but the people in the upper peninsula weren’t French Canadian, but were run by the Michigan government, wouldnt you consider the people of the upper peninsula as victims? And what would you do if you were one of them?
Your example is nonsense. No one is forcing the Palestinians to live in the Gaza Strip. There are vast land masses around Israel that are Muslim territory if they want to live in a Muslim country, Israel is a Jewish state. The only reason Israel controls Gaza is to try and prevent the type of event as what just happened. If the Palestinians just want peace and to live and let live, they wouldn't elect Hamas to run their state.
 
Your example is nonsense. No one is forcing the Palestinians to live in the Gaza Strip. There are vast land masses around Israel that are Muslim territory if they want to live in a Muslim country, Israel is a Jewish state. The only reason Israel controls Gaza is to try and prevent the type of event as what just happened. If the Palestinians just want peace and to live and let live, they wouldn't elect Hamas to run their state.
U think the Taliban, Iranians, and Hamas actually allow normal voting. U do what your told or lose your neck. That's partly why the Israeli's were against elections in the Gaza. Things aren't black and white. The whole thing is a giant clusterfvck. Unfortunately there are no right answers just the lesser of bad ones. Which appears to be Israeli dumping Hamas from the region at all costs.
 
Your example is nonsense. No one is forcing the Palestinians to live in the Gaza Strip. There are vast land masses around Israel that are Muslim territory if they want to live in a Muslim country, Israel is a Jewish state. The only reason Israel controls Gaza is to try and prevent the type of event as what just happened. If the Palestinians just want peace and to live and let live, they wouldn't elect Hamas to run their state.
correct me if i am misinformed but i believe the bolded part is untrue. none of the arab countries is ready to take in the palestinians. it appears like this disgruntled population is essential to keep that area from normalizing.
 
U think the Taliban, Iranians, and Hamas actually allow normal voting. U do what your told or lose your neck. That's partly why the Israeli's were against elections in the Gaza. Things aren't black and white. The whole thing is a giant clusterfvck. Unfortunately there are no right answers just the lesser of bad ones. Which appears to be Israeli dumping Hamas from the region at all costs.
That's the problem with authoritarians. They win an election (Hamas, Putin, Xi, Maduro, Wisconsin Legislature) or otherwise seize power (Ayatollahs, Saudis, Kim), then never give it up.
 


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correct me if i am misinformed but i believe the bolded part is untrue. none of the arab countries is ready to take in the palestinians. it appears like this disgruntled population is essential to keep that area from normalizing.
30 yrs of AM radio and 10 yrs of an information silo can't be wrong. :).
 
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