Did Hamas stop shooting back and the Israelis are just strolling through Gaza shooting the place up like terrorists at a rave?
Or are they still fighting?
Will you answer honestly?
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Or are they still fighting?
Will you answer honestly?
I think you’re wrong on that assumption. There are lots of videos with Israelis saying that all Palestinians should be killed. I see little difference in the civilian populations. Hamas and Bibi don’t give a shit about any of them.
hawkeyetraveler
HB Heisman
Don’t get me wrong I think Netanyahu is a criminal and has done a horrible job. He has actively contributed to Palestinian hate with his policies on settlers and far right government,
But I can separate that from how the IDF operates. There is plenty of evidence that the IDF is taking steps to avoid innocent casualties, but they are in a tough position with how Hamas operates Using human shields, etc.
I guess we are going to agree to disagree on this.
You can separate bibi from israel but not Hamas from Palestine.
hawkeyetraveler
HB Heisman
You must have me confused with someone else. Look at my prior posts - I can separate Hamas from Palestine. I believe in a two state solution, I believe there are innocent Palestinians, where did I say there weren’t?
My point is Hamas makes it virtually impossible to protect innocents since their own terrorist overlords use them as human shields.
Sure, same way we separated the Nazis from the Germans. Go in and root them out. Eradicate those who violently and homicidally insist they will not coexist, and then Israelis and Palestinians can have a chance at peace.
The answer isn’t to let the Nazis hide behind the Germans and lob rockets at London.
Not gonna lie, the appearance that the Al-Shati camp is the current focus of operations has a definite South Park vibe.
Yes it does if those places harbor weapons, leaders or combatants. Sorry. You’re just wrong on this.
Yes it does. You do your best to minimize civilian causalities through all manner of techniques but the terrorist combatants, leadership
And infrastructure need to be destroyed. Civilians have been told to evacuate. That effort has been impacted heavily by Hamas and its Arab friends.
Why doesn’t Hamas soldiers put on a uniform, come out and fight like men and allow the civilians to enter the tunnels?
The simple answer, they don’t care about their own civilians as much as Israel does.
Get on the right side of this. You’ve been duped.
It’s been 80 years, no one needs to indiscriminately bomb cities anymore.
I think your word indiscriminately isn’t applicable here.
or attack unarmed women and children that started this mess. Lots of people need some history lessons since our ****ed up schools do not teach it anymore. Iowa City Schools letting students out today to protest Israel defending herself. 99% of these ****ed up students couldn't find Israel, the Gaza Strip or any other country on a map. Try teaching the kids something besides Liberal bull shit and let them protest on their own time.
It was a brilliant move by the IDF to cut Gaza in half and trap Hamas in the center.
Claiming without evidence that Israel is ‘indiscriminately’ bombing Gaza doesn’t make it so.
The IDF is fighting the genocidal group that attacked them. That group can surrender or die, or do you hold out hope they’ll get another option?
I’m speaking specifically of the Hamazis, not the Palestinians broadly. Do you think they should be defeated and systemically eradicated from Palestinian society to ensure an opportunity for peace with neighbors, or should they be granted a ceasefire to re-arm and continue what they vow to be an eternal struggle?
Weapon depot 10 feet from a Gaza classroom.
It turns out that all of the tweets and propaganda isn't going to stop Israel from giving an ass-kicking
So who controls Palestine?
hawkeyetraveler
HB Heisman
Somewhere some 2A enthusiasts are taking notes and placing a call to Praeger U.
Palestine was dissolved on October 7th 2023.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that I was talking with someone who hasn't seen the photos from gaza with whole neighborhoods of apartments leveled.
Or maybe you're saying that they were targeting journalists and their entire families.
Are you suggesting that the IDF is bombing neighborhoods and apartment buildings in Gaza at random? Did you even read the article I linked you to yesterday? Or do you just not believe it?
'I’m calling from Israeli intelligence. We have the order to bomb. You have two hours'
An extraordinary warning call to a Palestinian dentist starts the panicked evacuation of a Gazan neighbourhood.
www.bbc.com
Once again, the IDF is going much further to protect Palestinian civilians than most retaliating countries would ever do after being invaded the way Israel was.
Wow, they do that before all their strikes? Crazy how they've managed to kill 100 UN employees and multiple journalists and their families. Maybe they didn't pick up the phone?!Are you suggesting that the IDF is bombing neighborhoods and apartment buildings in Gaza at random? Did you even read the article I linked you to yesterday? Or do you just not believe it?
'I’m calling from Israeli intelligence. We have the order to bomb. You have two hours'
An extraordinary warning call to a Palestinian dentist starts the panicked evacuation of a Gazan neighbourhood.
Once again, the IDF is going much further to protect Palestinian civilians than most retaliating countries would ever do after being invaded the way Israel was.
UN mourns record death toll in war with over 100 employees killed in Gaza
More than 100 United Nations employees have been killed since the Israel-Hamas war began in Gaza, the U.N. Palestinian refugee agency (UNRWA) said on Friday, making it the deadliest conflict ever for the U.N. in such a short period of time.
Do you think the IDF was intentionally targeting those UN employees and journalists? You don't think they had any reason to attack when and where they did?Wow, they do that before all their strikes? Crazy how they've managed to kill 100 UN employees and multiple journalists and their families. Maybe they didn't pick up the phone?!
UN mourns record death toll in war with over 100 employees killed in Gaza
More than 100 United Nations employees have been killed since the Israel-Hamas war began in Gaza, the U.N. Palestinian refugee agency (UNRWA) said on Friday, making it the deadliest conflict ever for the U.N. in such a short period of time.www.reuters.com
Since you want to dismiss the IDF's attempts at minimizing citizen deaths, maybe you can link us to another example in history where a retaliating country at war put in as much effort to save its opposition's citizens as Israel has over the last few weeks.
War is ****ing hell but you seem to keep forgetting who picked the fight. If Israel could take out Hamas without risking a single civilian life, I'm sure they would go that route. Unfortunately, with how Hamas has positioned themselves within their civilians, that's just not a realistic outcome. It's tragic but it's the truth.
No, I don't think they were intentionally targeting them, that's the point.
It's amusing how you keyboard experts think this thing started last month.
Who started this? The British. Just like all the other problems in the ME.
Lol, dude, I've literally said this a dozen times over the last few weeks. The French and the US aren't innocent either.
And what do you mean that's the point? You want the IDF to play right into Hamas's game plan.
No, but if someone shoots from an apartment building, or there is intelligence identifying fortifications under that apartment building, it’s another bunker for Hamas and is treated as such under the laws of war.
Now could you answer the question I asked you above:
I’m speaking specifically of the Hamazis, not the Palestinians broadly. Do you think they should be defeated and systemically eradicated from Palestinian society to ensure an opportunity for peace with neighbors, or should they be granted a ceasefire to re-arm and continue what they vow to be an eternal struggle?
If someone shoots from an apt building you think it's ok to level the whole thing? It's amazing how your positions change depending on the arena.
Yes, Hamas should be eradicated.
Yes, there should be a ceasefire in order for the civilian non-combatants time to flee.
You were arguing that the attacks were all targeted with forewarning. Then you stated that the deaths were otherwise.
Lol that's not true at all. When did I say ALL attacks came with forewarning? You're the one who insinuated they were indiscriminately bombing Gaza.
I linked you to a story that provided great detail to a couple of examples, proving that the IDF is putting in the effort that you refuse to give them credit for.
You get confused a lot.
