Which states that went for Trump are going to flip for Biden? North Carolina, maybe? Otherwise red states will continue to vote red. I would love it if you were right.
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I watched that.
God, Iowans are stupid.
Trump, and his surrogate Vivek, really know how to manipulate the minds of White Nationalists.
There wasn't a minority in that group and just verifies how Iowa is no longer representative of this country's electorate.
BTW: That group was the Story County Republicans in Nevada Iowa.
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I don't even count those as returning. I just mean he'll have a comfy margin. The states you've rightly mentioned are poisoned with magats.
Honestly, the last true landslide election in my opinion was ‘84. People have won comfortably since, but imo a landslide is just a rout.
It's quite interesting watching the different cable networks and their post debate reviews.
Fox talking heads thought RonnyBoy and Scott did well.
CNN picked Haley and Pence.
MSNBC picked Haley and Vivek, calling him "Trump's stand in".
I think the next debate only has 6 contestants when it happens.
Fox talking heads thought RonnyBoy and Scott did well.
CNN picked Haley and Pence.
MSNBC picked Haley and Vivek, calling him "Trump's stand in".
I think the next debate only has 6 contestants when it happens.
Tim Scott would have put the flag back up.
Now your just being a political hack
We have a similar governor here in Iowa. You're lucky to have a decent governor in AZ and not the corrupt Lake bitch.
Florida and Iowa if you think all these posters on here are saying they won't vote for Trump again aren't lying.
Sounds like one of the main tenents of Lying Donnie Sexual Abuser's playbook. Don't believe your eyes or ears... only believe what I tell you.
I had the opposite reaction to that issue. Remember that when Trump the president started meddling with what she considered her responsibility (as UN Ambassador), she promptly quit. I was relieved that she came out in the debate and said she liked him and considered him a friend.
The point stands that she is her own person. .... and that she would be a complicated choice for Vice President.
I watched that clip and was surprised to see an Amishman, maybe even a couple. Don't they count as a minority?
Doubtful women are often the worst critics of other women. It's a difficult balancing act to run as woman for higher office. It you're too aggressive you're bitch. If you're too nice then you're not taken seriously.
Whereas if you’re a guy shouting at the top of your lungs, you’re enthusiastic.
The bearded guy?
That's Brett Barker, the mayor.
Those 15 were active Story County GOP.
Having previously lived several miles from Amish country, I can guarantee you they are not a politically active group of people.
Just the opposite.
Or did I miss your sarcasm?
Last night's debate was revealing. Vivek was definitely trying to be Trumps stand-in which begs the question if he's so enamored with Trump why is he running against him. Nikki Haley absolutely destroyed Vivek over his insanely stupid remarks on Ukraine. Finally, last night's biggest reveal was that six out of eight candidates said they would support Trump as the nominee even if he was convicted of a felony. What?? This alone should disqualify all of them.
So I didn't watch the debate, but this is pretty interesting.
So, Desantis did pretty well, considering most politics-heads watching thought he was merely ok. His favorable/unfavorables are pretty remarkable given the months-long assault from both the left and from Trump. And the fact that he clearly came out of the debate in an improved position is interesting. I think that for a lot of people, this is the first time actually seeing him, and some of the constant criticism of him being weird, awkward, or detached kind of backfired, as he could still be a bit uncomfortable, but a lot of people thought he was going to be some kind of freak show when they finally got a look at him.
He has not had a very good campaign so far, but he still has a decent starting space right now to right the ship. One of the few who's unfavorables went down after the debate.
Haley's strong showing definitely paid dividends too. She needed this.
Trump lost ground not being there. It's a small amount, but its not nothing. While he still holds a commanding lead in polling, others are in striking distance in Iowa and NH. If he continues to slip from not showing up at debates, and that leads into losses in Iowa and NH...that could put him in a troubling spot.
The best thing about DeSantis and Haley coming out of this as "winners" is the idea planting the idea that there is an actual alternative to Trump. Some Republican voters still care about winning. Not all of them, a large percentage just care about Trump, but some are going to look at a DeSantis/Haley ticket and see something that can beat Biden.
The next thing that needs to happen is for some of these people to peel off, particularly Scott, Christie and Pence. I like Scott a lot, but he didn't have the debate he needed to get over the top. Pence has no constituency, although I respect some things about him. And Christie serves no purpose if Trump isn't on stage with them. I think the sooner they withdraw and throw their support behind DeSantis or Haley the better.
Scott should be campaigning with and for DeSantis, he's a likeable guy. Christie should just be doing talk shows attacking Trump, but he doesn't need to be anywhere in the same frame as DeSantis or Haley. Pence should probably just go away (and I have respect for a lot of things about Pence).
So, Desantis did pretty well, considering most politics-heads watching thought he was merely ok. His favorable/unfavorables are pretty remarkable given the months-long assault from both the left and from Trump. And the fact that he clearly came out of the debate in an improved position is interesting. I think that for a lot of people, this is the first time actually seeing him, and some of the constant criticism of him being weird, awkward, or detached kind of backfired, as he could still be a bit uncomfortable, but a lot of people thought he was going to be some kind of freak show when they finally got a look at him.
He has not had a very good campaign so far, but he still has a decent starting space right now to right the ship. One of the few who's unfavorables went down after the debate.
Haley's strong showing definitely paid dividends too. She needed this.
Trump lost ground not being there. It's a small amount, but its not nothing. While he still holds a commanding lead in polling, others are in striking distance in Iowa and NH. If he continues to slip from not showing up at debates, and that leads into losses in Iowa and NH...that could put him in a troubling spot.
The best thing about DeSantis and Haley coming out of this as "winners" is the idea planting the idea that there is an actual alternative to Trump. Some Republican voters still care about winning. Not all of them, a large percentage just care about Trump, but some are going to look at a DeSantis/Haley ticket and see something that can beat Biden.
The next thing that needs to happen is for some of these people to peel off, particularly Scott, Christie and Pence. I like Scott a lot, but he didn't have the debate he needed to get over the top. Pence has no constituency, although I respect some things about him. And Christie serves no purpose if Trump isn't on stage with them. I think the sooner they withdraw and throw their support behind DeSantis or Haley the better.
Scott should be campaigning with and for DeSantis, he's a likeable guy. Christie should just be doing talk shows attacking Trump, but he doesn't need to be anywhere in the same frame as DeSantis or Haley. Pence should probably just go away (and I have respect for a lot of things about Pence).
Lying Donnie Sexual Abuser being the Repub nominee would making the Dem's job much easier. You think Lying Donnie Sexual Abuser has gained any support in the almost eight years since he lost the popular vote by millions to HRC and Choir Boy Joe? To the contrary, millions of normal Repubs have sickened and tired of him. Lying Donnie Sexual Abuser is a sinking ship. Which means the Repub party will probably go with him.
From what I saw I can see why Haley gained ground. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would be more inclined to vote for DeSantis after that, unless anger and owning the libs are qualities they prefer in a candidate.
Your guy chickens out... Sorry you don't get in. Too bad.
By what measure? Dead serious. Because no one actually thinks that. Well except for hardcore leftists that is.
Its just like the 35% that thinks we should reelect Trump.
According to Gallup, 55% of this country thinks he has done a poor job.
Presidential Approval Ratings -- Joe Biden
Do you approve or disapprove of the way Joe Biden is handling his job as president?
news.gallup.com
Biden is doing worse than Jimmy Carter, let me lay it out for you. The vast majority of Dems will simply not go vote if Joe is the nominee.
I think you overread the importance of abortion in 2024. Not true in 2022 I'll grant you but I don't think this issue defines voter's choice in 2024. Just my take.
I think Nikki Haley answered this the best. There is no sense in moving towards a national piece of legislation. The high court has put this in the state's hands where it should be IMO. There is just as much a chance of getting a piece of legislation to support choice as to nationally restrict abortions. People in different parts of the country feel differently about this.
I f the Rs nominate Trump I agree. But if we on the right could manage to get a Tim Scott, Nikki Haley or Vivek Ramaswamy on the top of the ticket I think we'd have a better chance. And in that order.
RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel: 2024 GOP candidates must tackle abortion 'head on'
McDaniel said many Republican candidates refused to talk about the issue during the 2022 midterm elections, in which the party fell short of gaining a majority in the Senate.
www.nbcnews.com
Well, this gal apparently wants to keep it as a major issue in ‘24, and if they do, they lose.
Think about it - six of eight candidates on the stage last night said they would support Trump as the nominee even if he's convicted of a felony! Ironically, these same people wouldn't support Joe Blow for county dogcatcher if they knew he was a felon. Sadly, this is today's Republican Party.
