One way or the other millions of people in this country are insane…
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You are not independent in any way, size, shape or form.
You are as extreme or more so as any poster on this board. You can self-identify as a nuanced, whatever, but you express yourself through your positions precisely as an extremist, attempting constantly to quality yourself as not being one.
Positions are more a measure of extremism than rhetoric.
Well one day you'll understand the sophistication with which the oligarchs who really have the power, hold on to that power.
"Divide and conquer" is not a meaningless saying.
You think that Trump is completely independent, and every decision he makes is his and his alone.
That has never been the case for any prez, including Trump.
No, they do not. They are the same bullshit excuses and rationalizations that have been on repeat since 2016.
Trump has won the Republican nomination not once, not twice, but three ****ing times. THREE. So, spare everyone the “But Hillary/Kamala!” nonsense. You dumb sons of bitches chose this fat-ass imbecile, and in doing so pushed me out of the party I once assiduously voted for.
So stop making excuses and own the mother ****er. This is just as much on you as it is the MIB.
Were Harris and Trump the only 2 candidates who really had a chance to win?
Yes or no?
I didn't vote.
The true powers that be are playing chess. You're playing checkers.
The WSJ is now openly critical of Trump and has begun ramping up their editorials pointing out his mistaken decisions on tariffs and trades.
Expect the ramping up to continue.
Expect the ramping up to continue.
hawkeyetraveler
HB Heisman
I abhor the fact that some senator’s wife gets a $500K cushy job at an NGO simply because of who she knows. That is nothing more than nepotism and it stinks. I feel the same way about legacy trust fund kids getting into Harvard, about Trump employing Ivanka/Jared, about big time donors to every president becoming ambassadors, and on and on.
That is absolutely common ground.
Where I differ is I do see a sliding scale of badness. The Harvard trust fund kid is less bad IMO than being able to buy immediate government access because you hired the senators]’s wife. And the senator’s wife at a NGO is less bad than being able to influence a FAA contract against a rival simply because you donated 100’s of millions to the president. And influencing the contract is less bad than the President selling access to his inner circle to the highest bidder.
Just like I see shoplifting a snickers bar as less bad than stealing a car. Both are bad, but the degree does matter.
Mmm.
Well, I always say, we are a product of our past experiences, in all areas of life, relationships, business and romantic.
We form opinions based upon our experiences.
I’ve learned a lot in my long life. I listen to what people have to say and I assimilate what I’ve learned. Sometimes I’ve changed my opinions because I see the other side.
But that’s the way I roll.
One thing that I do believe is that studying history, language and literature, provides one with a better understanding of differences.
Living outside the US is another great learning experience.
Sidebar: I admire my friend @ericram for what he’s doing today, as well as those that are open to learning about other cultures.
I don’t know the best way to describe this, but I see a big difference in people that have experienced other cultures and people who have not.
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Oh. That clears it up…
Anyway, it's going to be an interesting 4 years or longer.
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Why don't you compare your theory of oligarchs to the JB presidency? I'm pretty sure I saw it in that admin.
I recognized him as a total douchebag when I was just a kid, but the racist accusations didn't really start until 2015.
JB was pre-approved and (s)elected as prez, and controlled, just like all the rest.
So yes, he was controlled by the oligarchs.
Not 100% sure what your point is.
Not sure what you mean, but putting it in terms of a fantasy story kind of underlines my point. Using fiction to disassociate from reality and avoid self-awareness is another trend that people should be concerned about. That being said, I'm just as guilty of escapism as anyone else.
I read a post a long time ago, by a non-American, who said Americans think they're always in a movie. Originally I disagreed, but American society's recent tendency toward more needless confrontation and general nastiness have made me believe that person was right.
At some point someone is going to have to admit they were wrong, one would think, but do you actually think either side is capable of that?
Biden was the puppet that exposed the oligarchs hands, now you have to wonder when that started.
It would very likely be better if he was.
He operates in a different orbit IMO.
Says he's gonna drain the swamp.
Appoints nothing but swamp creatures once he's president,
hawkeyetraveler
HB Heisman
Shit man, I’m wrong all the time. Just ask Ms. traveler next time she invites you over.
Not in a meaningful way, on a macro level. I actually think that is a consequence of unfettered free speech. The marketplace of ideas becomes two walls which the loudest partisans yell over and things don't change. There is less incentive or potential to reach a shared truth, or commonality, or at least an understanding. Social media algorithms are the reason those walls are getting taller.
A lot!!
You asked what you are missing. I explained what you are missing.
You're just not ready for the info.
lolwut? I know how and why the orange turd got elected. That isn't what I was "missing."
The masses have been disgruntled for all of our lives, all of our parents lives, all of our grandparents lives...
And most of you think the same type of thinking that got us into this mess, is going to get us out.
You need to dig deeper.
"Orange man bad" is not even scratching the surface, of the reason the world is the way it is.
And most of you think the same type of thinking that got us into this mess, is going to get us out.
You need to dig deeper.
"Orange man bad" is not even scratching the surface, of the reason the world is the way it is.
I've explained it. What I and George Carlin have explained is different and deeper than what you think you know.
You're free to disagree.
All presidents are.
You think the powers that be are laissez-faire about who they're gonna allow to become president of the United States.
They are not.
You haven't addressed my question at all. Until you figure that out, don't even bother responding.
We can only control what we can control. Blaming “the powers that be” for our binary choices every election is a little overly simplistic, not entirely accurate, but most importantly beside the point.
I voted for Kamala not because of how much I think of her. I voted for her because I rightly recognized how much of an existential threat Trump is. There should have been no confusion about that.
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Nope. Incorrect.
You haven't understood and/or have not agreed with my answer.
Which is fine.
Let it go.
So do they checkin with the oligarchs on what they plan to run on before their campaign, during and after?
