OT: Iowa Baseball Team makes the BT Tourney 1st time

[1fansopinion]

Originally posted by ichawk24:
BCS = schools in the six conferences with BCS auto bids, and now most use the designation to describe the current power 5
FBS = Former division 1, includes 10 total conferences and ~120 teams. Fresno State is FBS, not BCS.
FCS = Former division 1-aa. UNI is FCS.

From the BCS football link - http://www.bcsfootball.org/news/story?id=4809755


All 10 conferences in the Football Bowl Subdivision are considered BCS conferences. There is some confusion associated with this as the term "BCS conference" is often used incorrectly to describe an "automatic qualifying" conference. The non-AQ conferences are just as much BCS conferences as the six AQ conferences. Conferences earn AQ status by on-field competition.
The 10 BCS Conferences are the American Athletic Conference, Atlantic Coast Conference, Big Ten Conference, Big 12 Conference, Conference USA, Mid-American Conference, Mountain West Conference, Pac-12 Conference, Southeastern Conference and Sun Belt Conference.

 

[bugsbunny1]

BCS was used to refer to the POWER 6 conference and only the POWER 6 Conferences.

these same conference held the keys to the top 5 bowls nonof the teams you quoted had any type of tie in to these bowls, but I understand you consternation by trying to defend your pitiful schedule. {year in and year out} sad thing is when you do play a BCS level team you end up getting stomped,

 

[ichawk24]

There is not a single person in the real world who considers all 10 conferences as BCS conferences. Go ahead and believe whatever bullshit you want, which is typical of a fan who spends their time on a rival's board. But if you actually want to communicate with others, you need to use "BCS" as the power conferences.


This post was edited on 5/23 2:13 PM by ichawk24

 

[ichawk24]

2013 sagarin rankings:
UNI 93
FAU 87

2012 sagarin rankings:
UNI 92
FAU 137

2011 sagarin rankings:
UNI 75
FAU 190

2010 sagarin rankings:
UNI 124
FAU 155

2009 sagarin rankings:
UNI 102
FAU 114

2008 sagarin rankings:
UNI 83
FAU 102

2007 sagarin rankings:
UNI 62
FAU 78

2006 sagarin rankings:
UNI 91
FAU 130

 

[1fansopinion]

Originally posted by ichawk24:
2013 sagarin rankings:
UNI 93
FAU 87

2012 sagarin rankings:
UNI 92
FAU 137

2011 sagarin rankings:
UNI 75
FAU 190

2010 sagarin rankings:
UNI 124
FAU 155

2009 sagarin rankings:
UNI 102
FAU 114

2008 sagarin rankings:
UNI 83
FAU 102

2007 sagarin rankings:
UNI 62
FAU 78

2006 sagarin rankings:
UNI 91
FAU 130

You are speaking history. I'm speaking present-day, as in 2013 and 2014. Funny how you kept UNI ahead of FAU for 2013, even though FAU was higher.
If UNI and FAU TODAY played 10 times, I would give the advantage to FAU.
Again, regardless of whether of not UNI is better, you will always get more credit for playing a non-FCS team.

Funny that the historical record of a program suddenly matters to you, when it's a defense of Iowa's schedule.

But hey, since Sagarin ratings mean so much to you, let's compare the 2013 ratings of our OOC schedules.

FAU - 87; UNI - 93
McNeese St - 125; Ball St - 70
Fresno St - 54; ISU - 72
Miami - 49; ISU - 72

This is exactly the way I picked them. Looks like Sagarin agrees with me.

 

[bugsbunny1]

UNI is no cupcake, just 2 years ago Wisconsin beat them 26-21 and UNI's defense held Ball to 120 yards rushing on 32 carries, UNI has beaten D1 teams like Minnesota, Kansas and ISU. and any one of those would run all over FLA Atlantic.

 

[1fansopinion]

Originally posted by bugsbunny1:

BCS was used to refer to the POWER 6 conference and only the POWER 6 Conferences.

these same conference held the keys to the top 5 bowls nonof the teams you quoted had any type of tie in to these bowls, but I understand you consternation by trying to defend your pitiful schedule. {year in and year out} sad thing is when you do play a BCS level team you end up getting stomped,

I suppose it's tougher to get "stomped" when your idea of a "BCS level" team is Iowa State.

The "BCS level teams" that NU has played since 2001:
Miami, UCLA, Washington, Virginia Tech, Southern Cal, Wake Forest, Pittsburgh, Penn St (prior to being in the Big Ten), Notre Dame, and TCU.

The "BCS level teams" that Iowa has played since 2001:
Iowa State, Pittsburgh, Arizona, Syracuse, Arizona St.

Uh... notice any difference?

Isnt it funny that so many of the teams listed under the thread of "Non Conf Opp Wish List " actually do show up on the list of teams Nebraska has played?

 

[1fansopinion]

Originally posted by bugsbunny1:

UNI is no cupcake, just 2 years ago Wisconsin beat them 26-21 and UNI's defense held Ball to 120 yards rushing on 32 carries, UNI has beaten D1 teams like Minnesota, Kansas and ISU. and any one of those would run all over FLA Atlantic.

Is this how Iowa fans defend their OOC scheduling? "Hey, UNI is no cupcake!"

Two years ago, they probably would have beaten FAU. TODAY, in the present time, I doubt they would.

 

[bugsbunny1]

then it will come as no surprise to you if Nebraska loses to Florida Atlantic since they are a top flight team.

also I see excluded NIU from that list of yours and they are 1 year removed from playing in a Orange Bowl and lest we forget they beat Miami of Ohio when they were ranked 15th and had Big Ben as their QB, this fall they play Ball ST and they went 10-3 overall,

what's the matter fan opinion back pedaling a bit are you calling conference BCS level then ignore those same conference teams when talking about Iowa's opponents.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Originally posted by 1fansopinion:

Originally posted by bugsbunny1:

BCS was used to refer to the POWER 6 conference and only the POWER 6 Conferences.

these same conference held the keys to the top 5 bowls nonof the teams you quoted had any type of tie in to these bowls, but I understand you consternation by trying to defend your pitiful schedule. {year in and year out} sad thing is when you do play a BCS level team you end up getting stomped,

I suppose it's tougher to get "stomped" when your idea of a "BCS level" team is Iowa State.

The "BCS level teams" that NU has played since 2001:
Miami, UCLA, Washington, Virginia Tech, Southern Cal, Wake Forest, Pittsburgh, Penn St (prior to being in the Big Ten), Notre Dame, and TCU.

The "BCS level teams" that Iowa has played since 2001:
Iowa State, Pittsburgh, Arizona, Syracuse, Arizona St.

Uh... notice any difference?

Isnt it funny that so many of the teams listed under the thread of "Non Conf Opp Wish List " actually do show up on the list of teams Nebraska has played?

But what ruins your argument is the fact that it's not Iowa's fault. They may have played them in the past but in the stated time frame.....let's say those teams had to choose. Who would they rather play? Iowa? Or Nebraska? There's your answer to your failed troll attempt.

Just sayin......

 

[1fansopinion]

But what ruins your argument is the fact that it's not Iowa's fault. They may have played them in the past but in the stated time frame.....let's say those teams had to choose. Who would they rather play? Iowa? Or Nebraska? There's your answer to your failed troll attempt.

Just sayin......

What ruins your argument is the fact that Iowa hasn't even tried to schedule them. Even in their worst decade in 50 years, Nebraska could (and would) find "A list" opponents to play.
We're supposed to believe that teams like UCLA, USC and Notre Dame won't play Iowa because they are afraid of Iowa?...right.
Iowa settled for the B list because they are afraid.

By the way, our most common opponent in the time frame is Iowa State. In that time frame Iowa is 7-6 against them while Nebraska is 7-3 against the Clones.

 

[bugsbunny1]

you mean the superior Husker are not 10-0 against a inferior opponent that Iowa fans put down all the time, that 7-3 record is far more embarrassing to Nebraska than a 7-6 record that Iowa has.

 

[CJHawkeye]

Originally posted by scarletred:

Originally posted by okayplayer76:
Have to love the Nebraska fans! I suppose if Nebraska played Iowa early in the year in football Iowa would of lost that game as well!! What about Golf or Wrestling, does that matter as well? Face it your schools claim to fame in anything is over on the women's side!

This post was edited on 5/19 4:13 PM by okayplayer76

What ever... If you really think that Iowa is better than Nebraska right now in Baseball and if you think Iowa would have beaten Nebraska in Lincoln in Basketball when they couldn't beat anyone on the road or at home at the end of the year.

You sir are delusional.

This post was edited on 5/19 5:53 PM by scarletred

End of the day scoreboard trumps all brother. Hawks won in Lincoln in football, Hawks won in Iowa City in baseball and basketball.
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[1fansopinion]

Originally posted by bugsbunny1:

you mean the superior Husker are not 10-0 against a inferior opponent that Iowa fans put down all the time, that 7-3 record is far more embarrassing to Nebraska than a 7-6 record that Iowa has.

Like you said...Iowa fans put them down. Yet you're NOT embarrassed about a 7-6 record?
If you go back to 1998, the record is 7-9 in favor of ISU, our record against them is 10-3. Our all-time record against them is 86-17, yours is 27-21. Congrats on losing to them more than we have, even though we've played them more than twice as much!
We are embarrassed because we know they are an inferior opponent. You are not embarrassed because they are your toughest non-conference opponent most years and you've convinced yourself that you are their Super Bowl, whatever the crap that's supposed to mean. At the end of the day, it's an excuse for being average. We are embarrased because we'll never see ourselves as average, many of your fans have learned to live with it and even accept it.

If you want to be the best, you have to play the best. Iowa will never be the best because they've convinced themselves that they can't be. It's possible that Nebraska may not be the best again, but we will continue to believe we can be and won't accept losing to bad non-conference teams.

This is the biggest difference between Nebraska and Iowa fans.

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

Originally posted by 1fansopinion:

Originally posted by ichawk24:
2013 sagarin rankings:
UNI 93
FAU 87

2012 sagarin rankings:
UNI 92
FAU 137

2011 sagarin rankings:
UNI 75
FAU 190

2010 sagarin rankings:
UNI 124
FAU 155

2009 sagarin rankings:
UNI 102
FAU 114

2008 sagarin rankings:
UNI 83
FAU 102

2007 sagarin rankings:
UNI 62
FAU 78

2006 sagarin rankings:
UNI 91
FAU 130

You are speaking history. I'm speaking present-day, as in 2013 and 2014. Funny how you kept UNI ahead of FAU for 2013, even though FAU was higher.
If UNI and FAU TODAY played 10 times, I would give the advantage to FAU.
Again, regardless of whether of not UNI is better, you will always get more credit for playing a non-FCS team.

Funny that the historical record of a program suddenly matters to you, when it's a defense of Iowa's schedule.

But hey, since Sagarin ratings mean so much to you, let's compare the 2013 ratings of our OOC schedules.

FAU - 87; UNI - 93
McNeese St - 125; Ball St - 70
Fresno St - 54; ISU - 72
Miami - 49; ISU - 72

This is exactly the way I picked them. Looks like Sagarin agrees with me.

I love arguing with 12 year olds, it gives me such great joy. So using the Sagarin ratings you are hanging your hat on, Nebby's OOC opponent's average ranking is 78.75, while Iowa's is 72.5. Therefore Iowa's OOC opponents on average are higher ranked. Advantage Iowa, but thanks for doing the shoddy research (which actually contains an error) and thanks for playing.

It should be noted Iowa's final Sagarin ranking was 32, Nebby only 38.

I can smell your desperation through my laptop, and it reeks.

Oh, and lest I forget, SCOREBOARD.

This post was edited on 5/23 11:02 PM by Obviously Oblivious

 

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

Nebraska has a self-inflated sense of themselves in all sports. I want Iowa to win as much as anybody but there are more important things in life.

 

[bugsbunny1]

husker fan ISU got 4 of those 6 wins while KF was rebuilding Iowa, and that loss to ISU in 2002 was when ISU actually was ranked as high as 10th with Seneca Wallace as their QB the same year that ISU BEAT YOUR HUSKERS "36-14". since that loss KF is 7-4. hmm not much difference between 7-4 and 7-3.

it would be great if ISU got to that level again. after the 60's and 70's nobody thought it could be done at Iowa,, Guess what Fry did it and KF as kept it going,

since HF took over Iowa has played in 25 bowl games
3 RB
and a 6-7-1 record in bowl games

KF
2 BCS bowl games
7-5 over all

4 top 10's
1 15th place finish

how many top 10 finishes has Nebraska had in the last 12 years as KF had his 1st top 10 in 2012, honest question has I don't follow Nebraska FB..


back to the original topic. Iowa lost to Michigan to be eliminated and they end with a 30-13 record in Hellers 1st season, great start to his tenure as the Iowa Baseball coach.

 

[Husker "C"]

Originally posted by bugsbunny1:

husker fan ISU got 4 of those 6 wins while KF was rebuilding Iowa, and that loss to ISU in 2002 was when ISU actually was ranked as high as 10th with Seneca Wallace as their QB the same year that ISU BEAT YOUR HUSKERS "36-14". since that loss KF is 7-4. hmm not much difference between 7-4 and 7-3.

it would be great if ISU got to that level again. after the 60's and 70's nobody thought it could be done at Iowa,, Guess what Fry did it and KF as kept it going,

since HF took over Iowa has played in 25 bowl games
3 RB
and a 6-7-1 record in bowl games

KF
2 BCS bowl games
7-5 over all

4 top 10's
1 15th place finish

how many top 10 finishes has Nebraska had in the last 12 years as KF had his 1st top 10 in 2012, honest question has I don't follow Nebraska FB..


back to the original topic. Iowa lost to Michigan to be eliminated and they end with a 30-13 record in Hellers 1st season, great start to his tenure as the Iowa Baseball coach.

So Nebraska's losses to ISU during the Callahan years don't count?

Since we are asking questions... how many wins does Iowa have vs. Nebraska since KF took over? How many losses?

Who finished higher this year in the standings/rankings for Baseball, Football, and Basketball?

 

[BuffSurveyor]

It's a lost cause!

 

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

I can just judge by what I saw on the field, court, and mat head to head. What I saw were Iowa teams dominate Nebraska for the 2013-2014 year. It is what it is, I know Nebraska fans cannot or will not accept it. Maybe they will bounce back and get Iowa for 2014-2015.

 

[ehenningsen]

Nebraska fans....

We do have a very good athletic department, however..

Iowa beat us head-to-head in most of the sports this year. They have scoreboard. Why would all the other games matter to them in a conversation of head-to-head victories in the last year? This thread isn't about the better AD.

I concede the fact that Iowa wins this argument very easily.

 

[bugsbunny1]

looking at Nebraska the last 3 years they have been in the BT,

2011 20-7 Nebbie win
2012 13-7Nebbie win the worst season since the 2000 season when they went 3-8
2013 38-17 when most were predicting another 4-5 win season
2014 to be determined,

and Like PSU, Nebraska will find out that Iowa is no cupcake as KF led them to 8 straight wins over PSU and KF is now 4-1 the last 5 years and 6-4 since 2002

against Wisconsin KF is 6-5 against them in the same time frame

KF does not struggle against the so called elite teams of the BT. what he does is let the lesser team stay close,

 

[scarletred]

Originally posted by CJHawkeye:

Originally posted by scarletred:
What ever... If you really think that Iowa is better than Nebraska right now in Baseball and if you think Iowa would have beaten Nebraska in Lincoln in Basketball when they couldn't beat anyone on the road or at home at the end of the year.

You sir are delusional.

This post was edited on 5/19 5:53 PM by scarletred

End of the day scoreboard trumps all brother. Hawks won in Lincoln in football, Hawks won in Iowa City in baseball and basketball.
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Wins in December in Basketball and March in Baseball don't equate who was better at the end of the year.Your delusional too.

 

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

Originally posted by scarletred:

Originally posted by CJHawkeye:

Originally posted by scarletred:

What ever... If you really think that Iowa is better than Nebraska right now in Baseball and if you think Iowa would have beaten Nebraska in Lincoln in Basketball when they couldn't beat anyone on the road or at home at the end of the year.

You sir are delusional.

This post was edited on 5/19 5:53 PM by scarletred

End of the day scoreboard trumps all brother. Hawks won in Lincoln in football, Hawks won in Iowa City in baseball and basketball.

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Wins in December in Basketball and March in Baseball don't equate who was better at the end of the year.Your delusional too.

Enlighten us, how many March NCAA Tournament wins does Nebraska have? I haven't kept track...

 

[bugsbunny1]

you are the delusional one scarlet red as the head to head defines who is better in the season they played in and this year Iowa was clearly the better team. in BB. FB and Baseball

besides you better worry about beating the other BT teams this fall as I predict that Nebraska will lose to these this fall

NW
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa

at the least.

 

[bugsbunny1]

to add to this the cornholers will be lucky if they are not looking for a new coach as they may end up 5-7 after losing to Miami, FLA and MSU this fall + 1 other game nobody saw coming like Illinois, Rutgers or Fresno St.

that wouldsend shock wave thru husker land.

 

[gobigredlands]

Originally posted by bugsbunny1:

you are the delusional one scarlet red as the head to head defines who is better in the season they played in and this year Iowa was clearly the better team. in BB. FB and Baseball

As has been said before: it is now a fact that Iowa has replaced Colorado in terms of how beating Nebraska means it was a successful season...regardless of your actual success, finishing rank, record, etc.

Of course I'm biased, but I am much happier with Nebraska's football, baseball, and I can't believe I'm saying this: basketball team. As a whole, Iowa does have a much better wrasslin' program, however.

 

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

I love how Nebraska fans downplay wrestling as much as they can. However, when the day comes that Nebraska beats Iowa in a dual they will be the same ones over here playing it up.

 

[bugsbunny1]

hey husker fan Iowa claim it a successful season when they beat a team like Michigan, and Nebraska is no where near Michigan's LEVEL.

IF I had my way I would much rather play Minnesota or Wisconsin at the end of the season as those are far more important .

 

[gobigredlands]

Originally posted by IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life:

I love how Nebraska fans downplay wrestling as much as they can. However, when the day comes that Nebraska beats Iowa in a dual they will be the same ones over here playing it up.

I'm not downplaying wrasslin'. I love sports where two sweaty guys wearing spandex roll around on the ground together. Wrasslin' rules.

 

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

Originally posted by gobigredlands:

Originally posted by IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life:

I love how Nebraska fans downplay wrestling as much as they can. However, when the day comes that Nebraska beats Iowa in a dual they will be the same ones over here playing it up.

I'm not downplaying wrasslin'. I love sports where two sweaty guys wearing spandex roll around on the ground together. Wrasslin' rules.

Nice and original, wrestling is one of the most physically demanding sports. My guess is you tried it and couldn't hack it or you counted lights too many times. Which is it?

 

[1fansopinion]

Originally posted by bugsbunny1:

hey husker fan Iowa claim it a successful season when they beat a team like Michigan, and Nebraska is no where near Michigan's LEVEL.

IF I had my way I would much rather play Minnesota or Wisconsin at the end of the season as those are far more important .

Both Nebraska and Iowa beat Michigan last year. Both are 2-1 against Michigan since NU joined the BIG.
Michigan is the most overrated program in the Big Ten... they are no UNI, huh bugs?

Personally, I would rather have Iowa play someone else at the end of the season also. I'd rather play a marquis team on Black Friday.


This post was edited on 5/24 6:55 PM by 1fansopinion

 

[bugsbunny1]

so you can lose to them as well?

if you play Wisconsin who knows you might hold Wisconsin to under 70 points the next time Nebraska loses to them. losing to Wisconsin or Iowa will become a habit so it does not matter who you play at the end of the season so in the end Neb becomes a bad win for either team at the end of the season.

 

[gobigredlands]

Originally posted by IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life:

Originally posted by gobigredlands:

Originally posted by IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life:

I love how Nebraska fans downplay wrestling as much as they can. However, when the day comes that Nebraska beats Iowa in a dual they will be the same ones over here playing it up.

I'm not downplaying wrasslin'. I love sports where two sweaty guys wearing spandex roll around on the ground together. Wrasslin' rules.

My guess is you tried it and couldn't hack it or you counted lights too many times. Which is it?

Wow - so many undertones in that statement. LOL.

 

[scarletred]

Originally posted by IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life:

Wins in December in Basketball and March in Baseball don't equate who was better at the end of the year.Your delusional too.

Enlighten us, how many March NCAA Tournament wins does Nebraska have? I haven't kept track...

What does that have to do with Iowa beating Nebraska in Lincoln in March were Nebraska only lost one game at home all year and Iowa couldn't beat anyone down the stretch

Nebraska was better than Iowa in both Baseball and Basketball at the end of the year. Even my Hawkeye friends agree with that.... So take off your Black and yellow glasses.

 

[bugsbunny1]

you have no proof that Nebraska would have beat Iowa at the end of the season, at the end of the season Iowa 8-4 with a win over Nebraska who also finished the regular season at 8-4

they beat Georgia who ended the season 8-5
Iowa lost to LSU who finished 10-3

as for BB Iowa finished 20-13
Nebraska finished 19-13
and Iowa beat the huskers in both cases, and went 1-2 vs Iowa in Baseball

the Huskers lost, now deal with it and quit making excuses,

 

[ehenningsen]

Originally posted by IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life:

I love how Nebraska fans downplay wrestling as much as they can. However, when the day comes that Nebraska beats Iowa in a dual they will be the same ones over here playing it up.

word.

You have wrestling, we have womens volleyball and bowling. seems like a fair trade.

 

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

Originally posted by ehenningsen:

Originally posted by IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life:

I love how Nebraska fans downplay wrestling as much as they can. However, when the day comes that Nebraska beats Iowa in a dual they will be the same ones over here playing it up.

word.

You have wrestling, we have womens volleyball and bowling. seems like a fair trade.

I knew it was a matter of time before a Nebraska fan would mention volleyball, and for anyone to put college bowling in the same sentence as wrestling is just asinine.

 

[1fansopinion]

Originally posted by bugsbunny1:

you have no proof that Nebraska would have beat Iowa at the end of the season, at the end of the season Iowa 8-4 with a win over Nebraska who also finished the regular season at 8-4

they beat Georgia who ended the season 8-5
Iowa lost to LSU who finished 10-3

LSU lost to Georgia.

 

[bugsbunny1]

and Nebraska lost to Iowa so what's your point.