Our nationwide Police force is nearly beyond reform
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I would have assumed anyone with a felony conviction…no matter what for, would be unable to serve on the police force. Of any job that requires a mandatory clean criminal record…
I can respect that. I can't be the only one who has a nagging thought about how many incidents occur, and have occurred, in the absence of body camera footage, and people taking their own videos. Even in the case of Derek Chauvin we saw that the official report initially turned in was fudged. How many fake reports covered up a crime. How many faulty body cameras, or cameras that were "accidentally", left off covered up a crime. How many friendly people up the command chain covered for someone else?
Just saying. How many stories are truly out there, and how do we eliminate them.
I just want to scream at the absolute incompetence of our mental health system.
VA Nurse: I'm sorry, but your dad doesn't want you part of his care and we've deemed him competent.
Me: You've never met my father. The person you have in your care isn't him. You have absolutely no base-line of his personality!
Here is the body camera footage from three different officers. This animal executed the victim while two other officers were closer and calmly trying to disarm him.
Looking into this case....the PD cleared the officer. The chief and mayor publicly supported the officer. Fortunately, the DA had a fraction of a spine and turned the case over to a grand jury.
Huntsville police officer indicted on murder charge
A Huntsville police officer has been indicted on a murder charge.
If you want to know why there are so few good cops, read this article. The officer who followed her training and tried to de-escalate the situation was punished by the chief. He sent her to remedial training likely because she wasn't "warrior cop" enough.
Opinion | In Huntsville, don't forget the good cop
If not for the courage of Genisha Pegues, a Huntsville police officer might have gotten away with murder.
www.alreporter.com
‘Dangerous is the job’: Fellow officer testifies against Huntsville cop in murder trial
Jury in north Alabama watches bodycam video of Officer William Darby shooting and killing a suicidal man, Jeffrey Parker.
Officers testify in Huntsville Police Officer William Darby’s murder trial
HUNTSVILLE, Ala. – Body camera video of the moments leading up to Jeffery Parker’s death were played in court Tuesday during the murder trial of the Huntsville police officer charged with mur…
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You break the law that's what may happen. It's not hard people don't get arrested.
some people are math challenged. Can they be better, yes. it is not endless. Imagine dealing with crazy people everyday. I can understand why they become jaded. It's virtually impossible to start everyday with a clean slate.
Yes. I've never been arrested doesn't seem that difficult.
When police act appropriately, use proper force, and treat citizens fairly then I support the police. When the system routinely allows for terrible human beings to take that power and harm others and then the system hides or protects them, then I'll criticize the police system. It has very little to do with the individual officers unless they are the terrible people and everything to do with the power the system itself holds and abuses.
Article after article on police agencies across America currently facing staffing shortages and very low applicant numbers. Defund the Police, calls for eliminating qualified immunity and attitudes like on display in this very thread will only ensure that staffing shortages continue and lower quality applicants are hired.
America will get the police they deserve.
America will get the police they deserve.
Now post the numbers of daily police interactions that don't end this way.
Disclaimer: Not justifying the OP, but questioning his ridiculous thread title.
Three criminals with badges exposed. Surprisingly, one of them was arrested and is facing felony charges.
Apparently,, we have to give conduct like this a pass or else no one will want to be a police officer
Apparently,, we have to give conduct like this a pass or else no one will want to be a police officer
"Apparently,, we have to give conduct like this a pass or else no one will want to be a police officer"
It's clear that you want to pile one false narrative on top of the other.
Based on countless day to day interactions, misconduct is exceedingly rare.
i've already said it about 100 times here.
Certaintly better than yours of constantly crapping on our police
Three Children Attacked a Black Woman. A Sheriff’s Deputy Arrived — and Beat Her More.
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Three Children Attacked a Black Woman. A Sheriff’s Deputy Arrived — and Beat Her More.
Black residents of Louisiana’s Jefferson Parish have long accused the Sheriff’s Office of targeting them. A new video, which shows a deputy slamming a Black woman’s head into the ground, raises more questions.
So being arrested for anything without having any trial for that matter is worthwhile of the death penalty?
For the record mind telling me what Philando Castile did wrong?
What about Atantiana Jefferson??
Maybe our police officers need to learn to control themselves better.
Atantiana Jefferson was pointing a gun at a police officer.
Philando Castile was breaking a traffic law and carrying a gun lawfully. Now I will admit I do this everyday but haven't been stopped for it.
Do the crime pay the penalty. Shit happens. I think a few extreme cases are getting over sensationalized by the media. Are cops perfect? No one is so what you going do? fire everyone?
The cops didn't lock up a prisoner transport van, a woman got inside, ended up trapped in there, and died.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/17/us/christina-nance-huntsville-alabama/index.html
"Authorities in Huntsville, Alabama, are facing questions surrounding the discovery of a woman's body in the back of a rarely used police van in a police parking lot.
McCarver told reporters it's department policy to keep those vans locked.
"All city vehicles should remain locked any time they are not in use or occupied," he said. "Sometimes, you just have to say that was something that shouldn't have happened. It did."
The van was purchased in 1995 as an inmate transport vehicle, McCarver said. Because the vehicle was designed for inmate transport, once the back doors are closed, there is no way to open them from the inside.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/17/us/christina-nance-huntsville-alabama/index.html
"Authorities in Huntsville, Alabama, are facing questions surrounding the discovery of a woman's body in the back of a rarely used police van in a police parking lot.
McCarver told reporters it's department policy to keep those vans locked.
"All city vehicles should remain locked any time they are not in use or occupied," he said. "Sometimes, you just have to say that was something that shouldn't have happened. It did."
The van was purchased in 1995 as an inmate transport vehicle, McCarver said. Because the vehicle was designed for inmate transport, once the back doors are closed, there is no way to open them from the inside.
Atantiana Jefferson was pointing a gun at what she believed was an intruder because the police officer did not identify himself or you know. . . knock on the front door in what was suppose to be a welfare check. Instead he decided a better idea would be to creep around the back of the house in the dark.
If someone is creeping around the back of my house in the dark, I'm getting my gun too.
Even the very conservative National Review called out the cop's actions in this case.
When Cops Create Their Own Risk, Innocent People Die for Their Mistakes | National Review
And when the mistake is theirs, they cannot use the ‘split second’ defense.
www.nationalreview.com
For the record these cases happen over and over again and things need to change.
I will also point out that Philando Castile's killer was not criminally charged for his murder despite him Castile doing everything right in that traffic stop.
This is the correct answer. If anyone wants to do something of value to reform policing in America, it starts by giving law enforcement greater support, especially as it relates to mental health.
Policing is stressful. The amount of trauma many police officers have endured has got to be astronomically high. When I look at all these incidents that occur with a police officer doing something awful and head-scratching, I can’t help but think PTSD is behind a lot of it. I think the problem has only been magnified the past couple years with our culture so immersed in anti-police rhetoric.
Yes, it’s a good thing that there is greater accountability in policing today. Yes, there are some meatheads with an agenda who become police officers who shouldn’t. Yes, there are probably some police officers who are in fact racist who need to be exposed. However, I still believe the overwhelming number of police officers are good people just trying to do the best job they can. Frankly, with as much knowledge as we have about trauma and the impact it has on the human brain, it’s a crying shame there is no push today to better support our law enforcement officers in getting the help they need with mental health. No stigma and no judgment. It’s only common sense that many officers would struggle with PTSD given what many have had to contend with.
You want better policing, then start by promoting better support of the officers we have now honorably serving many different communities. Better support for the police does not mean you do away with accountability. These two ideas are not mutually exclusive and it’s sad so many view them as such.
You say these things happen over and over. There are over 600,000 911 calls a day are in America. Let's say 10 go bad that's. 00001%. If 100 go bad that's. 0001%. If 1000 go bad that's .001%. Now add all the encounters that occur without a 911 call. Fricking incredible. If you are that successful at your job hat's off to you.Atantiana Jefferson was pointing a gun at what she believed was an intruder because the police officer did not identify himself or you know. . . knock on the front door in what was suppose to be a welfare check. Instead he decided a better idea would be to creep around the back of the house in the dark.
If someone is creeping around the back of my house in the dark, I'm getting my gun too.
Even the very conservative National Review called out the cop's actions in this case.
When Cops Create Their Own Risk, Innocent People Die for Their Mistakes | National Review
And when the mistake is theirs, they cannot use the ‘split second’ defense.
For the record these cases happen over and over again and things need to change.
I will also point out that Philando Castile's killer was not criminally charged for his murder despite him Castile doing everything right in that traffic stop.
Need more police, not less.
always wondered why the worst areas for crime don’t try tripling the number of lights in the area and have the national guard out patrolling and interacting with local residents along with social workers and peace corps type people.
see if you can turn it around one neighborhood at a time in concert with after school programs to basically raise the kids who’s parents are too worthless to do it themselves.
sure it would be expensive. Too bad BLM didn’t push for this instead of whatever they pushed for.
always wondered why the worst areas for crime don’t try tripling the number of lights in the area and have the national guard out patrolling and interacting with local residents along with social workers and peace corps type people.
see if you can turn it around one neighborhood at a time in concert with after school programs to basically raise the kids who’s parents are too worthless to do it themselves.
sure it would be expensive. Too bad BLM didn’t push for this instead of whatever they pushed for.
Quick look at some of the best and brightest of the Detroit Police department.
Minnesota aka "Mississippi with Snow" police beat and arrest black teen who was applying for a job. Of course, they lied on their reports. Oh and BAU for racist corporate manager who called the cops.
