So is it $20 or $100, there's a difference? What does "once in a while" really mean? Maybe you can better explain what "doesn't suck" mean.
Over $100,000 raised TODAY for SWARM
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So is it $20 or $100, there's a difference? What does "once in a while" really mean? Maybe you can better explain what "doesn't suck" mean.
NIL, sold as the universities make all this money ofd the athletes, so some of it should go to the athletes is now on the backs of the fans.
If its on the fans to pony up to bring players in, they should have a say in coaching decisions if the coaching staff struggles to beat minnesota or gets their clocks cleaned by teams with a pulse.
And since these players are getting paid, they should be able to get booed without other fans getting on some soapbox about booing kids
And f**k Kadyn Proctor. His mom can chase bags somewhere else. I would hate for Proctor to have to settle for Iowa
If its on the fans to pony up to bring players in, they should have a say in coaching decisions if the coaching staff struggles to beat minnesota or gets their clocks cleaned by teams with a pulse.
And since these players are getting paid, they should be able to get booed without other fans getting on some soapbox about booing kids
And f**k Kadyn Proctor. His mom can chase bags somewhere else. I would hate for Proctor to have to settle for Iowa
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Does Kadyn P's Mom still in Iowa (SE Polk area)? If so, that's another reason the Hawkeyes are the front-runner for his services.
Dont know, dont care.
She can chase bags somewhere else, like she did with Bama.
I dont want the kid to settle for playing at Iowa. Amazing how many fans want him after her did the hawkeyes dirty
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I’d love to see the total of NIL contributions across the entire country.
Then donate it to a charity for homeless veterans or something.
This NIL crap is the worst thing that has happened to AMATEUR sports.
Then donate it to a charity for homeless veterans or something.
This NIL crap is the worst thing that has happened to AMATEUR sports.
Thanks to all who have donated. We have a BIG opportunity ahead of us!
Yep. Pay players for appearances, advertisements and merch sales (all in line with what someone would normally get paid for those things). This backing up the brinks truck to get a player for maybe a year is ridiculous.
Im guessing the next year or two, all my sports watching will be the pros or collegiate non revenue sports
Agreed, at least what NIL has morphed into anyway.
As noted above, giving a kid his share of Name, Image, Likeness is fine.
Paying a recruit $5000 just to come visit campus, then set up a payment plan of $50,000+ per semester in order to get him to sign on is garbage. It’s not what NIL was intended for. It’s play for pay and it stinks.
If the big $$ donors want to kick in for that nonsense , let’em. The rest of us can keep our $20.
So Proctor still has not decide if he is coming to Iowa until you raise enough money. Just asking.
I don't think you're way off base. But to add - I don't think the NCAA can just "make rules" regarding NIL. The NCAA is an enforcement organization - kind of like the police dept. The cops can't make new laws to fix things. We need the University Presidents to get organized to fix this mess.
I agree - the players are not selling their NIL. They are selling their ability to play football, which is quite different.
I like watching college athletics, but I'll never be an NIL contributor,... not going to happen.
I'm not going to be the guy that sits here and questions fan loyalty. I'll just say again to compete for those top 12 spots you need solid NIL. If not then prepare for 6-6 on the regular. I don't like it, but it's reality now.
I laugh at this because you're essentially saying you're team may suck, but you'll get enjoyment out of watching teams with stronger NIL operations.
These are not kids. They're adults with talent at a level that demands payment to varying degrees. It's no different than a genius 18 year old that would go out into the workforce. They would be paid handsomely if their skills warranted it.
Should athletics still be tied to universities? Well now that's the real question. College football at least is a semi-pro league at this point. This is where the changes should take place. The players SHOULD be getting paid based upon their skill level/importance to a team. It's a multi-billion dollar industry with each D1 school making an average of 31.9 million dollars per year. These are companies with employees at this point and the employees deserve to get a fair cut of the money.
Should athletics still be tied to universities? Well now that's the real question. College football at least is a semi-pro league at this point. This is where the changes should take place. The players SHOULD be getting paid based upon their skill level/importance to a team. It's a multi-billion dollar industry with each D1 school making an average of 31.9 million dollars per year. These are companies with employees at this point and the employees deserve to get a fair cut of the money.
Can we please stop using "NIL" in this discussion ...that's not what we're talking about.
Use "PFP" instead.
Personally, if it's going to take significant PFP $$ investment in order to earn one of those T12 spots, then we best get use to disappointment. Iowa and it's donor/fanbase are not going to get us over the hump. Look at the schools/programs ...(their donors and fanbase and not what their fball program generates financially, since that $$ can't go towards PFP)... we are competing against to pay these top players.
Do you really think anything is going to change at the top of the pecking order in CFB??
The schools who have always skirted the rules and 'played the game' when it comes to securing top talent can now do it openly and without restriction.
Best get use to Iowa being 6-6/7-5 and on the outside looking in 99% of the time. Probably get lucky and have lightning strike once every 15 years and make the CFP. That's where Iowa sits in the pecking order, we're a solid program historically...not a blueblood that competes for conference and national titles on the regular.
Sorry if that comes as a shock to some of you. Santa Clause is also a lie.
A thought that occurred to me is that there is only one person in college sports that is getting compensated in line with the original principles of NIL (selling one's name, image and likeness).
That would be Iowa's own Caitlin Clark.
That would be Iowa's own Caitlin Clark.
I get that the new NIL environment just is what it is at this point. We bought some Christmas gifts directly from some of the players' apparel sites. I am all for supporting the players in their entrepreneurial endeavors, but we won't contribute to pay-to-play programs out of principle. No hate to those who do.
Iowa has a top 30 NIL that produced the worst offense in CFB. Awesome?
Will you still complain then when we miss on recruits?
Makes you appreciate and realize how rare it is to have a player like that who has never entertained the transfer portal. Says a lot about her character, even if she’s receiving significant contributions through NIL. I’m sure there are schools that have tried to illegally poach her this past season and could have offered her a substantial amount.
I also give credit to guys like Linderbaum and Tory Taylor who, that first year NIL was a thing, gave at least some of their NIL earnings from apparel to charity. Pretty sure it was causes related to the children’s hospital in both these cases?
So KP gets a bunch of money to go to Alabama. Hit's the portal and then gets a bunch of more money?
This will be the new norm, you can bank on it. Pun intended.
I don't know if he will but he certainly should be able to. For you, what is the $ amount that will allow someone to complain?
If people are paying a lump sum up front for 4 years with no clause to get money back or with a structure that allows payment over 4 years as long as athlete remains then that is on the people paying that money.
And hear those same people roar when their local school district wants to improve the school with a bond vote that will cost them $20 a year in property tax
Taylor didn't have a choice. As a non-citizen, he can't accept NIL money.
Your seats, merch, and concession buying does not put good players on the field. If you truly want a great team forget about buying season tickets and paying those outrageous prices at the stadium and give half that money to SWARM and put the other half in your bank account.
You'll soon see a better product on field from the comfort of your sofa.
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I rarely complain about any aspect of Hawkeye athletics...
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IOWA CITY, Iowa — When it came to profiting off his name, image or likeness (NIL), Iowa punter Tory Taylor figuratively had the ball taken off his foot this summer.
As an international student, the Australian-born Taylor is restricted from profiting from his name, image and likeness. Without any incentive, the 24-year-old sophomore ignored any ensuing overtures that allowed his teammates to capitalize financially from their marketability.
“Honestly, it didn’t really bother me because I think it’s kind of a bit of a distraction,” Taylor said. “It was just something I didn’t really think about. A few people obviously reached out to offer me a few things, but it just didn’t really interest me because I feel like I could make the money eventually.”
But one of the conversations that piqued Taylor’s interest was with Raygun T-shirt mogul Mike Draper. When the NIL rule became fully implemented, Des Moines-based Raygun immediately signed Iowa State quarterback Brock Purdy and running back Breece Hall. With Iowa’s reputation for punting and Taylor’s engaging personality, Draper thought there was a natural connection with his iconic T-shirt designs.
“There was just something about Tory Taylor, personally, and the ‘Punting is Winning,’ kind of joke on Twitter, that we thought like, ‘This guy, as crazy as it sounds, the punter from Iowa, is going to be like the big NIL star,’” Draper said. “You’ve got to realize nobody’s going to become a millionaire off of one or two T-shirts. I’ve tried it with several thousand T-shirts, and it still hasn’t worked.”
There were plenty of worthwhile causes of which Taylor could attach his name, and Draper had a few ideas. After a few days, Taylor changed his mind and dealt with UI compliance officials to ensure he could lend his NIL for charity. Many of his teammates donate a portion of their NIL proceeds to the UI Children’s Hospital, including center Tyler Linderbaum, who gave every penny of his $30,000 earnings to the hospital. Taylor called Draper and approved of a T-shirt design but preferred to find a small, specific organization to bring awareness.
Draper provided the perfect match for Taylor. Count the Kicks is a non-profit group formed in 2008 by five women in central Iowa who lost their daughters in the early 2000s to stillbirth or infant death. Among their goals is to encourage expectant mothers to have daily kick counting sessions during the third trimester of pregnancy. When the amount of time to get to 10 movements changes, it could signal potential issues. While the national figures on stillbirth remain stagnant, according to the organization, Iowa’s numbers have fallen by 32 percent since the group’s formation.
“He kind of suggested the Count the Kicks organization,” Taylor said. “It’s kind of ironic. I love the name.
“I thought, ‘Well, if we can sell a few T-shirts and donate a couple hundred bucks, then that’d be great. But it’s kind of taken off ever since.”
Taylor’s “Punting is Winning” T-shirt easily has become the most popular among Iowa fans. All three of LeVar Woods’ children have a version of it, and the special teams coordinator wasn’t sure if a fan made them or if they came from a store. Taylor’s portion of the total has exceeded $11,000 and continues to rise daily. Monday, Taylor donated a ceremonial check for that entire amount.
“We love that kicking connection that Count the Kicks brings and ‘Punting is Winning’ shirts,” said Kate Safris, one of five women who formed Count the Kicks. “Someone told me recently that they think there’s kind of a connection here, because we hope that moms don’t need to use Count the Kicks, right? We hope that they’re counting those kicks, and they don’t have to go to their doctors and tell them there’s an issue. But if there is, they’re going to be happy they had us.
“We kind of feel the way with punting, right? We hope we don’t have to punt; we’d like to go down the field and score every time. But if we have to punt, we want Tory Taylor.”
There’s a real-life value to Taylor’s message. Alyssa Shelby, an Iowa graduate, has worked as a nurse at UI Hospitals and Clinics’ mother-baby labor and delivery unit for eight years. Part of her responsibilities is to educate pregnant women about the importance of paying attention to their baby’s movements.
Shelby was 31 weeks pregnant in early August when she noticed her son was less active in her womb. With her knowledge base, Shelby opted for a hospital visit. Rather than wait, Shelby delivered son Liam that night via Caesarean birth. Liam spent about a month in the neonatal intensive care unit at UI Children’s Hospital, and the family saw The Wave from the 12th floor.
“It’s really emotional even watching the fans do it,” Shelby said. “But to actually be on the other side of that window, knowing Liam’s a baby so he didn’t know what’s going on, but when he’s older to be able to explain to him how awesome that was. The hospital actually made them fake little tickets to the football game that day. It was very emotional.”
Tory Taylor with Liam. (Scott Dochterman / The Athletic)
On a display entering the Iowa City Raygun store, which is located just two blocks east from the Old Capitol’s iconic golden dome, are T-shirts featuring several Iowa players, including receiver Charlie Jones, quarterback Spencer Petras and now former running back Tyler Goodson. There’s even one that reads “Thanks Minnesota” in appreciation for the Gophers’ upset of Wisconsin to send Iowa to the Big Ten championship game.
But “Punting is Winning” has its own Christmas ornaments to go along with the shirts. It also has its own life-saving story.
“I’ve always thought the neat thing about the store is having this connection to a community,” Draper said. “If you’re Tory, you’ve got this kind of permanent connection to Iowa City, no matter what happens. Yeah, I mean, it’s wild thinking that there will be at least one baby whose parents are eternally connected to a punter from Iowa. There’s not a lot of people who can say that for any position.”
'Count the Kicks': Unable to profit off his NIL, Iowa punter Tory Taylor is still maximizing the impact of his platform
Taylor partnered with a local non-profit that creates awareness and works to prevent stillbirth and infant death.
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Why she was from Altoona area when Kayden committed to Alabama. She just instructed him to go where the money was.
I'm just not overwhelmed with $100,000. I don't think that's a lot of money when we're talking NIL.
