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Page County Supervisors pass wind turbine ordinance

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After a nearly two-hour public hearing including concerns about wind turbines, the Page County Board of Supervisors approved a related ordinance Oct. 29 should the 300-foot tall towers come to the county.


A portion of the hearing included Page County Supervisor Chuck Morris reading an overview of the regulations which includes noise, setback and other factors all to promote the health, safety, comfort and general welfare of residents.

A few in the audience didn’t see it that way.

“We’re considering moving out,” said Ryan Yrkowski, who said he moved to Page County from Nebraska a few years ago. “It’s 100 percent greed driven. They’re not green and it does not pay for itself.”

Yrkowski claimed the turbines, which generate electricity, can cause cancer, sleeping problems and dizzy feelings and “alters the beautiful horizon I see every day. And it lasts generations.” He called them “industrial entities” which are subsidized by the federal government and difficult to dispose of when they have reached the end of their usefulness.

For the past several months, county officials have been informed of wind turbine companies researching possible tower sites. Wind turbines are being erected in northern Missouri. At the same time, officials have been doing their own research preparing the county, should agreements be made between wind turbine companies and landowners.

“An ordinance protects the roads. You make it to discourage turbines, or allow it with protections,” said Kim Behrens, from the Page County Auditor’s Office. “Without an ordinance, it’s a free-for-all.”

The transportation and erection of wind turbines can cause damage to county roads knowing the extreme weight of the pieces of tower and construction equipment. After reviewing other counties’ ordinances, it’s common to include how roads must be repaired to normal conditions after construction.

“It’s a protective piece of work from our point of view,” Morris said.

Morris said knowing the financial troubles agriculture is in with low grain prices, a farmer may consider having a turbine installed on his property which will provide some income.

“A farmer may use this to help the bottom line,” he said.

“We can’t stop a landowner,” said Supervisor Chairman Alan Armstrong.

A representative was in the audience from Invenergy, a wind-turbine related company. She declined to explain details of contracts with landowners.

Those in the audience cautious of turbines fear what it may do to the county.

“Neighbors are fighting neighbors,” said Ashley Berhorst. She said she has learned of other places in Iowa that have wind turbines and they have caused disputes between neighbors who have them on their property and those who don’t.

“Are you ready,” she rhetorically asked the supervisors. “I live out in the country for a reason. Do I want to hear a Learjet over my house 24 hours a day? We live with the consequences.”

The ordinance states the maximum sound level a turbine can make is 55 decibels measured from a non-participating resident. Page County Safety Coordinator Tom Nordhues said that is equivalent to noise in an office.

Those who apply to build a wind turbine in Page County must pay $250 and have complete details of the turbine, some certified by a licensed engineer. The application must fit all federal guidelines related to wind turbines. The county’s zoning administrator and board of supervisors must approve the applications.

Resident Gary Davison, who has spoken to supervisors before about wind turbines, questions the setback distances. That is the measurement from the center of the turbine to the center of the closest object or structure. The ordinance states 1.1 times the total height of the tower or 1,500 feet, whatever is greater. Some towers stand as much as 300-feet tall including the tip of the blade.

“I fear we will lose population,” Davison said.

Structures like residences, schools and churches must be 1.1 times the height of the tower or 1,250 feet away from the tower, whichever is greater.

The ordinance stated the towers must have at least a one mile setback from the county’s parks.

Berhorst and Yrkowski questioned why the ordinance has a greater distance for parks than residences.

Morris said he is aware of lease-option sites for turbines in Page County, but that doesn’t guarantee a wind turbine will be erected. Lease options follow the turbine regulations at the time the lease was written.

Page County Attorney Carl Sonksen, who was in attendance, said the county is committed to the ordinance it passes, but details can be amended.

“We are trying to do what’s best for Page County,” Morris said. “Doing this today, we are not committed to wind turbines. We need more to study.”

Morris made the motion to approve the ordinance and it was second by Jon Herzberg. The two and Armstrong voted in favor. The three also voted to waive the first and second readings of the ordinance.
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Boy, this is sure gonna end all the vibrant economic development going on in Page County specifically and SWIowa in general.
Last one out, turn out the lights, please.

Iowans continue to cut off their noses to spite their faces. At what point do “my” rights interfere with “your” rights and vice versa?
They should be thankful that anyone or anything is moving into that county. I laughed out loud at the woman who commented about how she liked living out in the country for a reason and thinks she'll have the equivalent of a jet passing over at all times. LOL at the rube who thinks windmills cause cancer. There is maybe 15,000 people in that county? They need the revenue, and this is good for small land owners.
 
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They should be thankful that anyone or anything is moving into that county.timeI laughed out loud at the woman who commented about how she liked living out in the country for a reason and thinks she'll have the equivalent of a jet passing over at all times. LOL at the rube who thinks windmills cause cancer. There is maybe 15,000 people in that county? They need the revenue, and this is good for small land owners.

I shook my head.....when Page County folds up, I will send her the name of a realtor friend of mine who might have a property for sale close to the DSM airport.
 
Curious how many have actually reviewed the terms of these windfarm agreements. I have reviewed several and have numerous concerns. There is minimal protection for existing tile. The payment terms and remedial efforts to restore the ground are meh compared to what the Balkan pipeline provided. I find the security to remove the windmill after it reaches functional obsolence is very questionable. The real kicker is many of these agreements will not even pay any funds until 95% of the windmill farm comes online. Think about that.... what incentive does the developer ever have to reach the 95% threshhold? The windmill on your farm can be up and running for years and no payment. What if you want to sell the farm? Who collections the rent then? The agreements often fail to address this issue. The only sure advantage I have found with these agreements is the County will collect more tax dollars.
 
After a nearly two-hour public hearing including concerns about wind turbines, the Page County Board of Supervisors approved a related ordinance Oct. 29 should the 300-foot tall towers come to the county.


A portion of the hearing included Page County Supervisor Chuck Morris reading an overview of the regulations which includes noise, setback and other factors all to promote the health, safety, comfort and general welfare of residents.

A few in the audience didn’t see it that way.

“We’re considering moving out,” said Ryan Yrkowski, who said he moved to Page County from Nebraska a few years ago. “It’s 100 percent greed driven. They’re not green and it does not pay for itself.”

Yrkowski claimed the turbines, which generate electricity, can cause cancer, sleeping problems and dizzy feelings and “alters the beautiful horizon I see every day. And it lasts generations.” He called them “industrial entities” which are subsidized by the federal government and difficult to dispose of when they have reached the end of their usefulness.

For the past several months, county officials have been informed of wind turbine companies researching possible tower sites. Wind turbines are being erected in northern Missouri. At the same time, officials have been doing their own research preparing the county, should agreements be made between wind turbine companies and landowners.

“An ordinance protects the roads. You make it to discourage turbines, or allow it with protections,” said Kim Behrens, from the Page County Auditor’s Office. “Without an ordinance, it’s a free-for-all.”

The transportation and erection of wind turbines can cause damage to county roads knowing the extreme weight of the pieces of tower and construction equipment. After reviewing other counties’ ordinances, it’s common to include how roads must be repaired to normal conditions after construction.

“It’s a protective piece of work from our point of view,” Morris said.

Morris said knowing the financial troubles agriculture is in with low grain prices, a farmer may consider having a turbine installed on his property which will provide some income.

“A farmer may use this to help the bottom line,” he said.

“We can’t stop a landowner,” said Supervisor Chairman Alan Armstrong.

A representative was in the audience from Invenergy, a wind-turbine related company. She declined to explain details of contracts with landowners.

Those in the audience cautious of turbines fear what it may do to the county.

“Neighbors are fighting neighbors,” said Ashley Berhorst. She said she has learned of other places in Iowa that have wind turbines and they have caused disputes between neighbors who have them on their property and those who don’t.

“Are you ready,” she rhetorically asked the supervisors. “I live out in the country for a reason. Do I want to hear a Learjet over my house 24 hours a day? We live with the consequences.”

The ordinance states the maximum sound level a turbine can make is 55 decibels measured from a non-participating resident. Page County Safety Coordinator Tom Nordhues said that is equivalent to noise in an office.

Those who apply to build a wind turbine in Page County must pay $250 and have complete details of the turbine, some certified by a licensed engineer. The application must fit all federal guidelines related to wind turbines. The county’s zoning administrator and board of supervisors must approve the applications.

Resident Gary Davison, who has spoken to supervisors before about wind turbines, questions the setback distances. That is the measurement from the center of the turbine to the center of the closest object or structure. The ordinance states 1.1 times the total height of the tower or 1,500 feet, whatever is greater. Some towers stand as much as 300-feet tall including the tip of the blade.

“I fear we will lose population,” Davison said.

Structures like residences, schools and churches must be 1.1 times the height of the tower or 1,250 feet away from the tower, whichever is greater.

The ordinance stated the towers must have at least a one mile setback from the county’s parks.

Berhorst and Yrkowski questioned why the ordinance has a greater distance for parks than residences.

Morris said he is aware of lease-option sites for turbines in Page County, but that doesn’t guarantee a wind turbine will be erected. Lease options follow the turbine regulations at the time the lease was written.

Page County Attorney Carl Sonksen, who was in attendance, said the county is committed to the ordinance it passes, but details can be amended.

“We are trying to do what’s best for Page County,” Morris said. “Doing this today, we are not committed to wind turbines. We need more to study.”

Morris made the motion to approve the ordinance and it was second by Jon Herzberg. The two and Armstrong voted in favor. The three also voted to waive the first and second readings of the ordinance.
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Ha! Reading this on my mobile and I did not see the words “turbine ordinance” in the subject line. I thought Ciggy had posted a funny. But no, it was a normal political thread :(
 
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Morris said knowing the financial troubles agriculture is in with low grain prices, a farmer may consider having a turbine installed on his property which will provide some income.

“A farmer may use this to help the bottom line,” he said.


There are struggling farmers? Who knew.
 
Morris said knowing the financial troubles agriculture is in with low grain prices, a farmer may consider having a turbine installed on his property which will provide some income.

“A farmer may use this to help the bottom line,” he said.


There are struggling farmers? Who knew.

Don't run into your turbine with your combine.....
 
The title of this thread is: Page County Supervisors
pass wind. Ciggy was just being polite and did not
simply say: County Supervisors farted in their pants.
 
Curious how many have actually reviewed the terms of these windfarm agreements. I have reviewed several and have numerous concerns. There is minimal protection for existing tile. The payment terms and remedial efforts to restore the ground are meh compared to what the Balkan pipeline provided. I find the security to remove the windmill after it reaches functional obsolence is very questionable. The real kicker is many of these agreements will not even pay any funds until 95% of the windmill farm comes online. Think about that.... what incentive does the developer ever have to reach the 95% threshhold? The windmill on your farm can be up and running for years and no payment. What if you want to sell the farm? Who collections the rent then? The agreements often fail to address this issue. The only sure advantage I have found with these agreements is the County will collect more tax dollars.

I worked for a wind energy developer for about 6 years. Agreements were for plots and road access and payments began during construction and compensation was also paid for crop and land damages (ex. Removing fences) during the construction phases. I saw anywhere from $4,800 to $8,400/plot/year with 10-20 year terms.
I was never around for an expiration, but I do know that the land owner would take ownership of the turbines if they aren’t removed. There is far more money in those turbines with all the steel and copper that it would offset any and all costs to decommission, tear down, and fix the land.
 
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