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Paid off refs

How was it clear? Was the ball still on an upwards trajectory? No. It wasn’t indisputable to overturn. Did I blame the refs for anything else? No. F off dbag

It was only clear if you know the first thing about the rule, hence your confusion. You clearly don't even know the first thing about the rule because still on its way up has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT! So yes, if you even know the rule in the first place which you just clearly stated incorrectly, it was indisputably a good block.

Now back to blaming the refs because Fran puts the least athletic team in the B1G on the floor year after year!!!

"Did you see Troy Skinner miss that dunk?!?!?! The Refs must've been paid off!"
Like. Clockwork.
 
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why the hell would you need to pay off these incompetent asswholes to cheat? Hell, if you paid them off to call a game one way they would probably screw that up too. Big ten has the worst BB officials in the country and it’s not even close.
 
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Maybe they stood out as awful because you don't know the first thing about basketball? It CLEARLY was a clean block and not a goaltend. Illinois was more athletic at every position on the floor but had more fouls called on them excluding the intentionals at the end.

It's always hilarious coming on here after losses and seeing fans blame the refs because Fran puts the least athletic team in the B1G on floor year after year after year!

Are you saying the goal tend call was not awful? It was so awful it was overturned. The whistle cost Iowa 2 points. Wish the awful travel was reviewable. How in God’s name is that not called and Frazier hits a 3 point prayer on that no call.
 
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Maybe because half the people in this thread are so ignorant they think a clean block that was clearly correctly called is evidence of paid off refs?
The only person who has implied the refs were paid off is the OP. Keep it going though you’re doing great
 
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Maybe they stood out as awful because you don't know the first thing about basketball? It CLEARLY was a clean block and not a goaltend. Illinois was more athletic at every position on the floor but had more fouls called on them excluding the intentionals at the end.

It's always hilarious coming on here after losses and seeing fans blame the refs because Fran puts the least athletic team in the B1G on floor year after year after year!

If it “CLEARLY” was a clean block why was the whistle blown? If done correctly play continues and Joe got the put-back and the two points we had stolen.
 
It was only clear if you know the first thing about the rule, hence your confusion....

Now back to blaming the refs because Fran puts the least athletic team in the B1G on the floor year after year!!!
I’m not blaming the refs, but I can still comment on poor calls. Your ad hominem attacks are f’ing pathetic. Explain the rule smart guy
 
If it “CLEARLY” was a clean block why was the whistle blown? If done correctly play continues and Joe got the put-back and the two points we had stolen.
Everybody on the Iowa bench jumped up and called for goaltending too. But ChiDoc knows the rule better than everybody else apparently.... “clearly”
 
You can say Iowa lost the game, and "not whine", but you didn't watch the game if you really think that the refs didn't influence three important 'swing moments' in this contest.

- The missed travel that even your blind great grandmother would have no problem seeing
- The resulting 3, by Frazier, to beat the shot clock
- And the goaltending review whistle AFTER JoeW got his own rebound and put the ball back in the hoop, taking 2 pts off the board for the Hawks

That's a definite 5-pt swing in ILL's favor, but potentially a 7 or 8 one (if Iowa is given the ball back after the travel that should have been called, and could have made a bucket).
 
Maybe because half the people in this thread are so ignorant they think a clean block that was clearly correctly called is evidence of paid off refs?
Lol you mean missed the call, right? Cause if you’re talking about the goaltend they...missed that call...until they went and reviewed it. And im in no way saying the refs were paid off, simply that they performed their job very poorly
 
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Maybe they stood out as awful because you don't know the first thing about basketball? It CLEARLY was a clean block and not a goaltend. Illinois was more athletic at every position on the floor but had more fouls called on them excluding the intentionals at the end.

It's always hilarious coming on here after losses and seeing fans blame the refs because Fran puts the least athletic team in the B1G on floor year after year after year!
I am not disagreeing with the reversal I am saying the refs made the wrong call and cost us two points on the putback. So they screwed us twice.
 
Are we supposed to pretend they dont exist or are we supposed to pretend that they called the game well? Please advise.

Maybe grow up and realize that in college basketball when you're on the road in B1G games, you're not going to get the calls. It's just the truth. We benefit from it when we're at home. I guess you can waste energy crying about it, but that's not going to change anything. Sorry.
 
Maybe because half the people in this thread are so ignorant they think a clean block that was clearly correctly called is evidence of paid off refs?

This makes no sense. Called correctly? It was called incorrectly, per the refs review, which stopped the game with Iowa having possession a foot from the hoop. Also costed Iowa a possession arrow. You can’t have it both ways. No matter how you look at it, Iowa lost two points on the shitty officiating.
 
Even so they screwed us twice by the reversal of the goaltend if they call it right in the first place then weiscamp gets the follow.
The classic detroit lions treatment. Had the call been proper in the first place, Iowa scores 2 points. The improper call awarded Iowa 2 points. Correcting the call resulted in nothing.
 
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I learned tonight that goaltending - other than the "in the cylinder" variety - calls are reviewable...... supposedly.


And sure was nice of the officiating crew to let Illinois interfere with Iowa inbounding attempts after made ILL buckets, time after time after time, but only call one warning on them. Way to get tough and mean business, stripes!
 
Maybe grow up and realize that in college basketball when you're on the road in B1G games, you're not going to get the calls. It's just the truth. We benefit from it when we're at home. I guess you can waste energy crying about it, but that's not going to change anything. Sorry.
We don’t benefit from it like other B1G teams IMO.

Also I think it’s obvious that it SHOULDN’T be like that, no? The officiating should be fair for both the home and road teams. Clearly isn’t the case in the B1G.
 
Welp, there it is. Life on the road in the B1G. We should just accept getting long dicked, because it was a road game.

Yeah, have you been paying attention to college basketball for the last 50 years?

Crying about the refs is just weak. Put yourself in a position to win the game without having to worry about refs.
 
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Huh. What's this "life on the road" business?? Seems like Iowa gets long dicked in Carver, as well.

Maybe if our guys would bring a little defensive intensity and hit the boards, the refs wouldn't matter. Whining about refs is weak. Our interior D is like soft butter. That's a bigger problem than any ref.
 
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Yeah, have you been paying attention to college basketball for the last 50 years?

Crying about the refs is just weak. Put yourself in a position to win the game without having to worry about refs.
Well usually you put yourself in a position to win by scoring more points than the other team.

Having to score extra points is handicapping.

Maybe stop having the same 8 guys do every game and do a piss poor job at it might be part of the reason no Big Ten team has won a national championship in over 20 years.

I've been saying for a long time now the inconsistent ability to call a game is why the conference struggles in the tourney after a grueling conference season of this bullshit year in and year out. And outside of Kansas the Big 12 hasn't done shit either despite always being 'arguably the top conference.'. What's the constant here? The same shitty Midwest referees both conferences use for their games.
 
To say the refs were Illini stooges who prevented you from winning tonight is even more ignorant. And hilarious, lmao.
Yeah i know, that 3 points given to you at the end of the first half made zero impact. That goaltending call had no impact. The 2 terrible foul calls on the POY taking him to the bench both times had no impact. The refs calling 0...ZERO fouls on you in the last 10 minutes had no impact. I dont think the refs were illinois stooges, i think they r just f’n terrible at their job, or were tonight
 
Thoughts on ZERO fouls called on Illinois the last 10 minutes of the game?

LMFAO!!! Without the intentionals at the end of the game it was 14 fouls on Illinois and 12 on Iowa, and Iowa was playing with one of the least athletic B1G lineups in recent memory. Illinois was more athletic at basically every single position, and some by huge margins (Dosunmu - McCaffrey; Cockburn-Garza, etc..)

This entire thread is just beyond hilarious.
 
I learned tonight that goaltending - other than the "in the cylinder" variety - calls are reviewable...... supposedly.


And sure was nice of the officiating crew to let Illinois interfere with Iowa inbounding attempts after made ILL buckets, time after time after time, but only call one warning on them. Way to get tough and mean business, stripes!
No video can be used for judge mental calls. Basket interference or goaltending is judge mental. The rule mentions nothing about in the cylinder just states the above. So they should not have reviewed the call.
 
Maybe grow up and realize that in college basketball when you're on the road in B1G games, you're not going to get the calls. It's just the truth. We benefit from it when we're at home. I guess you can waste energy crying about it, but that's not going to change anything. Sorry.

Weird. I guess if you want to take the all things being equal stance, albeit false, you have that right.
 
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LMFAO!!! Without the intentionals at the end of the game it was 14 fouls on Illinois and 12 on Iowa, and Iowa was playing with one of the least athletic B1G lineups in recent memory. Illinois was more athletic at basically every single position, and some by huge margins (Dosunmu - McCaffrey; Cockburn-Garza, etc..)

This entire thread is just beyond hilarious.
14 to 12? Who gives a ****. I’m talking about 10 straight minutes to close a game where Illinois wasn’t called for a single foul
 
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The goaltending call really changed the game and what happened after. More bad luck than a horrible call I would say. Hawks bench played well, it was a good effort, and Joe Weiskamp was great tonight.

The veterans didn't come thru late, which is a little dissapointing, but they were in it until the end. CJ out, other guys stepped up, as far as losses go this was our best one.
 
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I yelled at my TV at the blatant travel, but I gotta say, the more I see that replay, the more I think it might be legit. It looks absolutely gratuitous because of the high-stepping along the end line, but I think if he’s not high-stepping, we probably don’t see it as a travel. Basketball has long since made it clear that you can pick up your dribble and take 2 steps, we see that 150 times every game. He was a hair from being down with that third step before he got rid of the ball.
 
I yelled at my TV at the blatant travel, but I gotta say, the more I see that replay, the more I think it might be legit. It looks absolutely gratuitous because of the high-stepping along the end line, but I think if he’s not high-stepping, we probably don’t see it as a travel. Basketball has long since made it clear that you can pick up your dribble and take 2 steps, we see that 150 times every game. He was a hair from being down with that third step before he got rid of the ball.
It’s a travel. He passes as he’s about to complete his 4th step, not 3rd
 
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