Paid off refs
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Did you see Fran's & others' reactions?
And of course the desperation 3 goes in.
That was a killer
Yea, I was just watching the entire bench go nuts. 3 point swing.... Possibly a 6 point swing, as Iowa gets the ball with 15 seconds after the TRAVEL.
That’s what I can’t decide. I deleted my recording of the game, but I’m having a hard time deciding if he took 2 steps or 3.
WOW, AMAZING!!! It's almost as if not having a single player on the floor with B1G quickness and athleticism impacts your ability to drive to the basket and draw a foul...
No, that's not it, it was a gambling conspiracy where refs were paid, there's no way Ayo Dosunmu could guard either of the McCaffrey boys in his sleep!!!
I'm sure you have many examples of Iowa players being fouled that weren't called (never mind the refs called almost nothing the last 10 minutes to begin with on Iowa either).
I reacted just like Fran did, but you can’t seriously be saying that you can judge the quality of any individual call by Fran’s reaction, right?
Iowa drove into the lane plenty. Yeah of course there’s many examples of fouls but I’m not going to get into it.
Illinois got the better end of officiating in a close game. If you can’t admit that you’re clearly biased or trolling
I only caught the last two minutes of the game so I have no idea just how bad or good the officiating was (the highlighted plays I saw were pretty bad). You are correct, though, that lack of athleticism is a greater problem for Iowa than the officials.
Tbh, my greatest disappointment with Fran has been his inability to land good athletes at the guard position who can both score and defend. When Iowa first hired Fran, people talked about how he was a Philly guy and would be able to recruit out east. Needless to say, that hasn't really ever materialized.
Iowa drove the lane plenty!?!?!?!?! WHO?
I thought it was pretty even and some bad calls went BOTH ways like the Vast majority of CBB games. I’m the only one not biased here actually.
you’re right, on review it was a block. But the officials getting the initial call wrong cost Iowa two points on the putback. Bad break due to officiating error.
It makes zero sense that Illinois got called for 14 fouls in the first 30 minutes and then gets called for zero in the last 10. There was a lot of contact that officials let go. I’m not saying officials were out to get Iowa, but they were bad tonight.
I’ll bet you could look at every game the last 10 years and not find 10 instances where a team went 10 minutes without being called for a foul.
You put yourself in a position to win by making shots and playing good defense.
Whining about the refs non-stop is just a weak excuse. Are there going to be bad calls? Yes. Are we going to be on the losing end of bad calls? Yes. Are there going to be games where the calls seem to be going against us more than the other guys? Yes. Guess what, same thing happens to the other programs too. Life ain't fair. Deal with it. Work to improve the things you can actually control like your rotations, shooting, free throws, defensive intensity, rebounding, and maybe you can take the outcome of the game out of the hands of the refs. Because the refs ain't this team's problem.
Curbelo got rid of the ball before he planted his third step.
Even if this was a missed call (it wasn’t), it wasn’t the difference in the game.
Holy shit this fan base is a bunch of whiny bitches. We lost to a good team. It will happen again and it won’t be the ref’s fault then either. smh
Even if this was a missed call (it wasn’t), it wasn’t the difference in the game.
Holy shit this fan base is a bunch of whiny bitches. We lost to a good team. It will happen again and it won’t be the ref’s fault then either. smh
Dude Iowa played zone most of the game, which typically results in less fouls. How is this not understood? JW was fouled off a 3 ball no call, CM drove the lane and was hammered with no call, Luka got mugged a few times and no calls. 10 minutes without a foul from such an aggressive defense is an abomination. I'm not going to sit here and say that's the reason we lost, but to totally discount the bad officiating in the second half is off base.
Let me get this straight. You are insulting people and telling them they are stupid for saying the refs called a crap game and using a call the refs got wrong as an example? OK, buddy.
you are an all time dumb fan you don't know crap about BBall that is a FACT
Although it looked strange, this is not a travel. Dribble "ended" and he took 2 steps and passed. NFHS and NCAAm. NBA and FIBA allow what's known as a "zero" step by rule which essentially is a 3rd step. Best illustration is James Harden who utilizes the zero step to do a "step back" which is legal. That same move would be a travel in both HS and College as you picked up your pivot foot and put it back down
Not arguing the overall point, but Curbelo took three and a half steps. Left, right, left, then threw the ball just before his fourth step.
Left, right, threw the ball, left.
4 seconds were counted as five on that crunch time inbounds. Both teams can play the ‘refs cost us’ game forever. It’s always weak AF.
I hope we get these guys on a neutral court with CJ healthy. I have a feeling no one but Illinois fans will be whining about calls if that happens.
I do not believe the refs were paid off, but to say Iowa has no B10 quickness or athleticism is idiotic. This was a back and forth game between two top ten teams according to Kenpom where Iowa came up short on the road. It happens. I still believe this team with no quickness or athleticism is going to rebound and somehow compete the rest of the season. If you are right, there is no reason for any of us to watch the rest of the season.
No, I don't care how close his first step was before last dribble. In a split second after the dribble, he plants the foot. Then two after that.
It was NOT 4 steps, it was three. It was a missed travel. Period.
Not really. Look at our losses. Look at the teams we struggle against. Look at our 3 pt D — it’s atrocious. Why? Because we are limited athletically. Most teams are significantly faster than Iowa.
How can anyone look at what Illinois did to us in transition last night and say we are just as fast. That’s idiotic.
He landed on his right foot. Watch the replay again. He gets by the defender with his right foot while the dribble ends. Left, right, left, ball released before the right foot hits. It was a travel; however, it was not as egregious as when I first saw it and thought he had taken four. It looked funny and that's why fans thought it was so blatant. Frankly, I'm surprised the refs didn't blow the whistle based on appearances alone (especially with them so quick to call a goaltend at the end of the game), but it wasn't as bad of a miss as I had originally thought.
With all of that said, missed travels and other elements of human error happen. I didn't watch most of the game but I will say it is rather amazing that Illinois put Iowa in the bonus in the first ten minutes of the second half then became so disciplined as to not commit a single foul the rest of the game. Especially in light of how Luka picked up his fourth. I did see the goaltend live that took two and a half hours to review and declare a good block, which unfortunately for Iowa took two points off the board (especially bad since Wieskamp put the ball back in). Bad, but par for the course for these officials.
None of this, though, impresses me because college basketball has been poorly officiated for a while now. It used to be that you'd have an occasional badly officiated game, which makes sense because the refs are as human as the players, but now it seems bad officiating is the norm. For me, it's hard to watch, and one of the main reasons I don't watch much basketball anymore. With all of that said, Iowa's problems are bigger than being on the short end of officiating. I believe we agree on that.
He's gathering the ball between left and right. That's not a step or there'd be 50 travels every game as guys gather.
Refs agree. Everyone agrees but the people crying on this board.
Lol. Give it a rest. It was a travel.
Illinois squeaked out a home win because of their uncanny ability to become so disciplined on defense as to not commit a foul the last twelve minutes of the game (or whatever it was). If that trend of favorable officiating continues, I have no doubt Illinois will win a lot more games.
No one here cares what you think. Eat shit and GTFO.
Luka Garza is highly regarded for many things. Athleticism is not one of them. Perhaps you should examine your own mental faculties before you sound off about someone else's.
The fact that you’re comparing to an NBA player illustrates it was a travel.
Depends on your definition of athleticism. I think most would not consider him a great athlete. Highly skilled and a workhorse yes.
Great hand eye coordination, but he’s not fast, not a great jumper, nor overly explosive.
the four steps Minnesota took to hit a 3 late was worse.
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