So no Rodgers? The QB who took AZ to the brink without his top 4 WR's and #1 TE?
I'd say he's around the 7th-10th. Interchangeable with Dalton, Ryan, and Carr. He made some magical throws, but he also had a hard time getting into a groove without his top 4 WR's and TE. He also failed to lead his offenses past any division rivals at home.
Because although he played through injury he had pinpoint precision (68 completion percentage), took very few sacks, and has an incredible deep threat.
I have Brees at #6, between the Elite 5 and the rest. And yes I think of Rodgers at 7-10. Where would you put him? I don't think I'm too far off. Numbers don't lie.
Because I was looking at 2015 only and I feel like he had a 7-10 2015 but not a top 6. I think Derek Carr had a very strong 2015, he was equal to if not better Aaron Rodgers. Yes his entire career work is amazing, but 2015 has been down.
You make a good point. I just think that in Carr's second year he played incredibly well. Especially under pressure. He played equal or better than Aaron Rodgers over the course of 2015. There have been moments where Aaron Rodgers just didn't look good. I believe PFF ranked Carr ahead of Rodgers as well. they put Rosgers around the 12 spot. They watch more football than both of us combined.
The packers did not win their division. They went 3-3, losing all home division games and finished 10-6. The Vikings finished 11-5, and 5-1 in the division.
So you're completely eliminating all other circumstances from the equation? Your saying playing the full year without his #1 WR, most of the year without his #1 TE, and much of the year without his #3 and #4 WR's along with a makeshift OL, and one of the leagues toughest SOS's doesn't play into your equation? I'm not trying to make excuses, but aside from possibly Brady, there isn't a QB out there that would have faired better or put up the numbers he did this year. He helped take his team to OT vs Arizona this past weekend with his #5-#7 WR's and without his #1 TE.
And the Seahawks walloped the Cardinals in Arizona 2 weeks ago with Wilson playing with the third string RB that they picked up a week or so earlier after he was cut from multiple other teams, as well as without their #1 and #4 receiver. And I bet the Packers #5-7 have more talent than the current Seattle WR. So if you're using this criteria- Wilson>Rodgers.
That's what I am mocking you for here. You've brought up that GB/AZ game twice in this thread now and how Rodgers ALMOST won in AZ without a lot of skill players. Yet Wilson whipped the Cardinals under the same circumstances. Yes, I agree you can't look at one game. But if you do (under the circumstances you've spouted off about multiple times in this thread) then Wilson wins easily.yeah, let's pinpoint one game.
The packers are not the only team that had a lot of injuries. The Panthers lost Kelvin Benjamin, the Chargers lost Keenan Allen, the Patriots lost Edelman, Amendola, and Gronk at one point, the Falcons lost their entire team to IR. Seahawks lost Graham and their top 2 running backs for most the year.
He had a bad year statistically compared to his previous 4, this is true. But if you're starting a team from scratch most people are gonna take Aaron Rodgers over anybody else.
