So unless I'm missing something Spencer will be the highest men's finisher for USA. Crazy when people were talking about a possibility of sweeping Golds. The Olympics are hard.
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Gutted for Zain, hope he's ok. One helluva wrestler and one helluva career.
Who TF was talking about sweeping golds?
Outside of the voices in your head, what people were talking about sweeping anything?
No one notable, I saw it mentioned a time or two. My comment was more tongue and cheek regardless I don't think most would have predicted zero golds either.
Anyone think Spencer should have gotten two for exposure when he stepped over at the beginning of their scramble? I am not a fan of the grounding rule, but thought Spencer could have definitely gotten 1 on the second grounding sequence as I felt he lifted his knees off the mat.
Spencer has gotten points off that step over more than once, and this was the hard way to learn. Betting he doesn't leave his arm tucked in there again on the roll through. I believe we see SL as at least a 2 time world champ and Olympic Gold - God willing health wise.
Spencer has gotten points off that step over more than once, and this was the hard way to learn. Betting he doesn't leave his arm tucked in there again on the roll through. I believe we see SL as at least a 2 time world champ and Olympic Gold - God willing health wise.
Yes i thought it could have been 2 and 2 although I haven't watched a replay.
Grounding is the most stupid rule ever. How hard is it, here's the perimeter, if you go outside of it, it's a point. No subjectivity.
Who makes these rules? Stupid.
So drop to your knees, no point. Lol
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Did not have Sebastian Rivera bringing home a bronze on my radar. Congrats to him.
Snyder trailing 2-0 at the break.
Activity point for Snyder, stepout for Iran 3-1. 1:50 left. Another stepout for Iran, 4-1. "Injury" time cold spray for Iran.... more blood stopage. 16 sec remain. Snyder can't find a way to the legs, loses 4-1.
I believe that this is the 1st year Snyder hasn't medaled on the Sr level at Worlds/Olympics.
Activity point for Snyder, stepout for Iran 3-1. 1:50 left. Another stepout for Iran, 4-1. "Injury" time cold spray for Iran.... more blood stopage. 16 sec remain. Snyder can't find a way to the legs, loses 4-1.
I believe that this is the 1st year Snyder hasn't medaled on the Sr level at Worlds/Olympics.
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Kennedy Blades finals up next
1st period:
Blades goes on clock, nothing 1-0 Kagami. Blades shoots and gets stepout 1-1. Kagami in on single, Blades good D, no score. 1-1 at Break
2nd period:
shot for Kagami, gets 2 on edge. 3-1 Kagami 1:20 to go. Blades having difficulty finding an attack. 20 sec. End. Kagami wins 3-1.
Blades will bring home an Olympic silver
1st period:
Blades goes on clock, nothing 1-0 Kagami. Blades shoots and gets stepout 1-1. Kagami in on single, Blades good D, no score. 1-1 at Break
2nd period:
shot for Kagami, gets 2 on edge. 3-1 Kagami 1:20 to go. Blades having difficulty finding an attack. 20 sec. End. Kagami wins 3-1.
Blades will bring home an Olympic silver
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Having to beat a Japanese wrestler. Tall order this Olympics…
Kennedy has hips of concrete
Kennedy has hips of concrete
So, of American universities, Iowa was associated with both the highest finishers (two silvers)? No American man won gold, and the two women who won gold didn’t wrestle at an American university.
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This is false. It's not necessarily about venues, but available lodging at Olympic Village where most of the athletes stay and how much it costs to house them, plus the cost for medal coverage, etc.
At least that's been the excuse the IOC has recently given for not adding more weight classes.
So that just means it's all about money
Kennedy is not an alumna of Iowa yet
Zain is going to work in NYC as an investment banker. This was his last dance.
That’s too bad but good for him. I wonder if having Rivera in the room would help Spencer and our coaching staff.
Rivera - lightweights
Morningstar - middles
Snyder - heavies
Brands - Head coach
Spencer — Recruiting Coordinator
While we are bringing home several medals, this can't be seen as anything but a huge failure by USA Wrestling.
I would say not our best performance but not exactly a failure either imo. Last Olympics was really good for us but historicaly about average.
We need to get our BEST guys out on the world stage as much as possible and qualifying for the Olympics and not wait for Last Chance Qualifier. If we did, we wouldn't have this fire drill each cycle and would get the benefit of getting some of our guys seeded for a change and not draw the top seed every single damn time.
Word on Rutgers forum is Rivera will go into coaching...likely following Pritzlaff.
Can't say that I remember a specific poster saying that, but many, myself included, thought this U.S. team would dominate, especially with Russia out.
I mean, who would've predicted 6 months ago, prior to the OTT's, that the top American performance in the Mens FS 2024 Olympics would not include a gold medal?
Considering the talent - including Taylor, Burroughs, Dake, Snyder, Gilman, N Lee, Nolf, Retherford, Brooks, Cox, Fix, Arujai, Gross, Diakomahalis, Alirez, Green, Dieringer, Marsteller, M Hall, Valencia, Gwiazdowski, etc. - who would've predicted that only 3 bronze medals would come from them?
And who predicted Spencer Lee would give the best Olympic performance by any American male in 2024? No gold, but losing a heartbreaking close one, winning silver?
Given the obstacles Lee has encountered (injuries), it has only increased my appreciation of all he has accomplished. Congrats to Spencer Lee and thanks for all the excitement and glory he's brought to collegiate wrestling at Iowa and for his Olympic silver medal!
Crazy. I thought he looked as close to peak as I've seen him the last couple of years too... light on his feet, lean, strong, quick... the he just ran out of juice. After seeing his first 2 matches I would have bet a lot of $ on him winning it all.
I hate to go against the tide here, but I did not have any problem with the no grounding calls. It was obvious that Sl was not trying to secure a takedown. All he was trying to do was push the guy out of bounds while he was on his knees. I would not reward that with a point, if I were the ref. Also, his opponent was trying to resist. He was not backing or avoiding wrestling, IMHO.
And a lot of that area is water. Was there ever a more appropriate time to ask -what is in that water?
Correct. Which is what i said earlier. In order to penalize the defensive wrestler in this situation the dropping to a grounded position to as void scoring has to be much more egregious. I thought it was properly officiated
I would say by dropping to his knees he's avoiding wrestling.
Scoring in freestyle includes pushouts. Lots of guys score pushout points without trying to secure a takedown.
If wrestling action takes them to a grounded position and they go out of bounds, no score makes sense to me.
Dropping to your knees to prevent from being pushed out is passivity and avoiding wrestling in my eyes.
I am not arguing with your opinion, i am telling you how it is officiated and how officials are instructed to call it.
