I was watching Spencer's gold medal match at work with no sound and i was pretty busy so can someone explain to me when Spencer got taken down the first time how that wasn't at least 4 points? I saw him fighting off his back.
**Paris Olympic Wrestling**
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Trackwrestling shows 74 KG "consolation" bout 325 K. Dake v. H. Cabolov, FF, with Cabolov moving on.
So back exposure doesn't mean anything in that situation? I guess I need to brush up on my freestyle rules.
No. It's just 2 exposure. It never went feet to back. I haven't rewatched but live I thought it could have been 2 and 2.
We need to quit whining about the rules and refs. If they would have awarded a caution and 1 to spencer everyone would be saying they gave the match to him. You know who isn't complaining about those things? Spencer. He said he deserved to lose.
I assumed it would be 2 takedown and 2 exposure. I admit I don't watch as much freestyle as I should. But this confused me.
If he had secured a takedown and then exposed him he would’ve gotten 2 and 2 but when the exposure comes first they don’t award points for the takedown.
The scramble took them down to the mat before either exposed so it’s just 2 for exposure. If you take some down to their back, but not from the feet, it’s just 2, not 2+2.
Thank you for explaining this. I wasn't aware of the rules on this.
Spencer lost to a better opponent. That's the first time I've been able to say that. Silver aint bad, though.
The good thing is the margin is thin, Higuchi had a very hard time breaking Spencer’s defense. Higuchi scores on everyone and struggled greatly against Spencer, if Spencer can continue improving on his shots he can definitely jump another level. TnT NEED to get him better training partners though, he has good partners right now but nobody that’s a senior level talent, or Spencer should spend some time in Japan with Otoguro and Higuchi.
He got the 2 for exposure.
In freestyle, you dont get a takedown plus nearfall if it is all one move.
If we are on our feet and i hit a firemans carry and you go directly from your feet to your back, i get 4. But if you go to your knees or side (without exposing), and then i get your over, its not feet to back, so its only a 2 pt exposure/move. There's no takedown plus nearfall in fs.
I think this was the best version of Spencer we’ve ever seen and if they wrestle 10 times, they split 5/5.
I also think if the weight class was 130 Higuchi might have been an all time great. The scale has been his toughest opponent since Rio. There is no shame in losing to that guy.
Blades up now
Rubbing foreheads, no score 1 min in. Blades 1st on clock. Quick double for Blades, 2-0. Double unders and td for KGZ, 2-2. Single for Blades, gets a stepout, 3-2 Blades. Break
2nd period:
Awesome edge wrestling from Kennedy, gets a td. 5-2 Kennedy, but a challenge to see if Kennedy went out 1st. Challenge lost, 6-2 Blades. Td off whistle, 8-2 Blades. Td and gut for KGZ. 8-6. 1:48 left.
Blades on leg. Nothing 53 to go. KGz stalking. Blades in on a merkle, but its not a td in freestyle. Short time.
Blades wins 8-6. She will wrestle for gold!!!
Rubbing foreheads, no score 1 min in. Blades 1st on clock. Quick double for Blades, 2-0. Double unders and td for KGZ, 2-2. Single for Blades, gets a stepout, 3-2 Blades. Break
2nd period:
Awesome edge wrestling from Kennedy, gets a td. 5-2 Kennedy, but a challenge to see if Kennedy went out 1st. Challenge lost, 6-2 Blades. Td off whistle, 8-2 Blades. Td and gut for KGZ. 8-6. 1:48 left.
Blades on leg. Nothing 53 to go. KGz stalking. Blades in on a merkle, but its not a td in freestyle. Short time.
Blades wins 8-6. She will wrestle for gold!!!
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What about someone who doesn’t take any shots at all? You want to reward them? That’s a homer take.
Dake for bronze now
1-0 Dake. Break
2nd period:
SRB on clock, no stepout given, 2-0 Dake. Ref conference to discuss. Now changed, 1-1. Td SRB 3-1. 48 Sec left. US challenge previous pushout. Dake clearly frustrated. 4-1 after very confusing challenge.
Td Dake 4-3. 31 sec. Dake BOMB for 5. Dake wins bronze!
1-0 Dake. Break
2nd period:
SRB on clock, no stepout given, 2-0 Dake. Ref conference to discuss. Now changed, 1-1. Td SRB 3-1. 48 Sec left. US challenge previous pushout. Dake clearly frustrated. 4-1 after very confusing challenge.
Td Dake 4-3. 31 sec. Dake BOMB for 5. Dake wins bronze!
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Right. They were both playing the system or wrestling to the rules. In those scenarios, spencer wasnt actually attempting to to the take the guy down, he was simply trying to push the guy out. And his opponent was doing exactly what you are supposed to do in that situation, drop down and stay grounded. For a defender to get called for passivity in that situation, it has to be much more egregious.
he should be saying that. it’s our job to complain about the calls hah.
if they don’t want to have the rule about negative wrestling and cautions then take it out of the rulebook
Meh. Coin flip match every time. And that’s the first time I’ve been able to say that about a SL match.
That was a tight cradle but I didn’t think that was a pin. Oh well. Japan has won enough.
The sport is too violent. They can’t risk the chance of showing blood and having questions arise about deformities of the ears.
It’s way too sweaty, I mean, they even wipe it off. Ewwwww.
Thanks for sharing with us!
Just goes to show how tough the Olympics are.
