Paul Chryst/Wisconsin

[Greenway4Prez]

I feel like Wisconsin is on a slow downward trajectory. The OL play just hasn’t been the same the last few years, they were never great at QB, but they were always smart. The talent at WR is below average.

The bones of the defense will always be very good as long as Leonhard is there, but they’ve lost so many guys to the NFL the last few years and I think it’s caught up to them this season.

First year with a new OC, so I’m sure there are some growing pains, but this is the third year in a row now where they just look…different.

Discuss. Or not, that’s fine too.

 

[the24fan]

I’ll enter the response most likely to show up here:
“Because fvck Wisconsin! That’s why!”
May a thousand jackals feast on their stinking carcasses

 

[Jumpshot00]

I feel like Wisconsin is on a slow downward trajectory. The OL play just hasn’t been the same the last few years, they were never great at QB, but they were always smart. The talent at WR is below average.

The bones of the defense will always be very good as long as Leonhard is there, but they’ve lost so many guys to the NFL the last few years and I think it’s caught up to them this season.

First year with a new OC, so I’m sure there are some growing pains, but this is the third year in a row now where they just look…different.

Discuss. Or not, that’s fine too.

Hopefully that is slow downward trajectory is the case. Too many of the points re: offense are eerily similar to our own favorite team.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

Ohio State is really good, but it’s been awhile since I’ve seen Wisconsin gutted like that. They don’t look the same as they did a few years ago. They have their hands full with Illinois this Saturday

 

[Rifler]

Other than a few outlier seasons the Badgers have historically been structured to operate with a run first offense,.. Multiple Heisman quality running backs paired with an average to serviceable quarterback and the occasional outlier wide receiver with talent, but for the most part a very run reliant offense,.. They seem to have moved away from that formula,.. Not sure if it's by design or the result of recruiting whiffs.

 

[frydaze]

I feel like Wisconsin is on a slow downward trajectory. The OL play just hasn’t been the same the last few years, they were never great at QB, but they were always smart. The talent at WR is below average.

The bones of the defense will always be very good as long as Leonhard is there, but they’ve lost so many guys to the NFL the last few years and I think it’s caught up to them this season.

First year with a new OC, so I’m sure there are some growing pains, but this is the third year in a row now where they just look…different.

Discuss. Or not, that’s fine too.

Over the last 10 years Wisconsin has been the benchmark program in the West. I will write them and Chryst off at the same time you’re willing to write Iowa and KF off.

Let’s be reasonable here. They lost at home to Washington State. We lost at home to a lesser opponent in Iowa State. They lost to one of the nation’s very best teams in Ohio State in Columbus. May be no worse of a loss than we will suffer there this year.

Like Iowa, they have a stellar DC in Leonhard. As long as he’s there that side of the ball will remain strong the majority of the time.

Let’s see where this season ends up for them before we start saying their demise has begun. Had they not been upset in their final game last year against MN they’d have won the West again.

 

[MitchLL]

We're making comments about Wisky?

Let's see what happens with Michigan before we revel in the Badgers demise.

 

[ObeseMuffins]

If we lose to them this year Iowa City, I'm going to be PISSED.

 

[pistachio1999]

Over the last 10 years Wisconsin has been the benchmark program in the West. I will write them and Chryst off at the same time you’re willing to write Iowa and KF off.

Let’s be reasonable here. They lost at home to Washington State. We lost at home to a lesser opponent in Iowa State. They lost to one of the nation’s very best teams in Ohio State in Columbus. May be no worse of a loss than we will suffer there this year.

Like Iowa, they have a stellar DC in Leonhard. As long as he’s there that side of the ball will remain strong the majority of the time.

Let’s see where this season ends up for them before we start saying their demise has begun. Had they not been upset in their final game last year against MN they’d have run the West again.

"Let's see where the season ends up" LOL. That isn't what you all are doing for Iowa.

 

[BBHawk]

If we lose to them this year Iowa City, I'm going to be PISSED.

I'm pissed every time Iowa loses to Wisconsin in ANY sport.

 

[frydaze]

"Let's see where the season ends up" LOL. That isn't what you all are doing for Iowa.

People here remark and critique about Iowa intensely because it’s an Iowa site. Pick your panties out of your butt crack and enjoy the season .

 

[frydaze]

I'm pissed every time Iowa loses to Wisconsin in ANY sport.

Think we’ve lost now 8 of our last 10 to them in football.

 

[pistachio1999]

People here remark and critique about Iowa intensely because it’s an Iowa site. Pick your panties out of your butt crack and enjoy the season .

IRONY.

 

[frydaze]

We're making comments about Wisky?

Let's see what happens with Michigan before we revel in the Badgers demise.

Hell we have Iowa fans still talking shit about Iowa State even though they beat us here recently. Iowa fans will continue to be Iowa fans.

 

[Rifler]

We're making comments about Wisky? Let's see what happens with Michigan before we revel in the Badgers demise.

But reveling in Badger demise is a constant in life,.. It's like enjoying sunshine.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

Im pretty sure the OP understands where Iowa is this year. He's just making an observation about Wisconsin. This is a college football board and it's ok to discuss college football

 

[frydaze]

But reveling in Badger demise is a constant in life,.. It's like enjoying sunshine.

Then in head in competition against them in football and basketball over the last several years you’ve been one hell of a miserable SOB 🤣

 

[scotthawk1964]

Maybe Bucky has trended down some, mostly because they have the same issues as we do, NO QB. However, I would say that a lot of it is the West has got better, well, cept for Debbie and NW.

 

[Rifler]

Then in head in competition against them in football and basketball over the last several years you’ve been one hell of a miserable SOB 🤣

Never miserable,.. always root for Badger decline.

 

[frydaze]

Ohio State is really good, but it’s been awhile since I’ve seen Wisconsin gutted like that. They don’t look the same as they did a few years ago. They have their hands full with Illinois this Saturday

I know this thread is about Wisconsin, but Illinois has a tremendous chance in their next 2 games to make a monster statement in games against us and Wisconsin. I think the Illini have a legitimate shot in both.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

I know this thread is about Wisconsin, but Illinois has a tremendous chance in their next 2 games to make a monster statement in games against us and Wisconsin. I think the Illini have a legitimate shot in both.

Agreed

 

[iahawkeyes17]

since Barry left they have slowly declined. Coincidence? Chryst better pray Leonard doesn’t leave for a HC job anytime soon.

 

[frydaze]

since Barry left they have slowly declined. Coincidence? Chryst better pray Leonard doesn’t leave for a HC job anytime soon.

Yeah, those 3 Rose Bowls Bielema took them to didn’t mean much. Plus Bielema and Chryst have both done something better against Iowa than Barry did- and that’s kick Iowas ass.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

since Barry left they have slowly declined. Coincidence? Chryst better pray Leonard doesn’t leave for a HC job anytime soon.

Chryst had a lot of success with the Gary Anderson/Dave Aranda recruits

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

If we lose to them this year Iowa City, I'm going to be PISSED.

With Spencer Petras at quarterback, brace yourself.

 

[Georgia_Hawk]

since Barry left they have slowly declined. Coincidence? Chryst better pray Leonard doesn’t leave for a HC job anytime soon.

Over his last 10 years, Barry's overall winning percentage was 67% and his conference winning percentage was 58%. Paul Chryst is at 73% and 72%, respectively. What is this decline you speak of?

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

Im pretty sure the OP understands where Iowa is this year. He's just making an observation about Wisconsin. This is a college football board and it's ok to discuss college football

It’s amazing stuff like this needs explained to a few.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

Over his last 10 years, Barry's overall winning percentage was 67% and his conference winning percentage was 58%. Paul Chryst is at 73% and 72%, respectively. What is this decline you speak of?

The West is trash, for one.

 

[frydaze]

Over his last 10 years, Barry's overall winning percentage was 67% and his conference winning percentage was 58%. Paul Chryst is at 73% and 72%, respectively. What is this decline you speak of?

@iahawkeyes17 dont let the facts get in the way of a good story

 

[WinOneThisCentury II]

Guys...I'd be careful about predicting the demise of Wisky. They have the best RB in the country and size...they usually get better.

Iowa needs to get it's DL healthy. I'm concerned about size upfront right now. VanNess is an undersized DT...and so it Shannon really...and so is Graves who got alot of minutes. We are going to need some size against Minnesota and Wisconsin to counteract their size. We are deep, but we need Pittman to get more minutes over the next few games...he hasn't looked too bad in my opinion. We can't allow Van Ness and Logan Lee to get gassed. It would be great to have Van Ness on the edge too.

 

[Greenway4Prez]

Im pretty sure the OP understands where Iowa is this year. He's just making an observation about Wisconsin. This is a college football board and it's ok to discuss college football

THANK YOU.

Good Lord, I’m not talking shit, I’m not spiking a football, and I don’t need Iowa to be amazing to merely DISCUSS a rival/conference foe. I’m a CFB fan above being an Iowa fan.

From 2013-2017, Wisconsin went 54-14, a winning rate of 79%.

Since then, they’re 33-18, a winning rate of 65%. 66% (29-15) if you take out the COVID year. That’s not a small drop-off.

I’m not talking about comparing us and Wisconsin. I’m talking about the Badgers and what I see, and what the records say.

 

[frydaze]

THANK YOU.

Good Lord, I’m not talking shit, I’m not spiking a football, and I don’t need Iowa to be amazing to merely DISCUSS a rival/conference foe. I’m a CFB fan above being an Iowa fan.

From 2013-2017, Wisconsin went 54-14, a winning rate of 79%.

Since then, they’re 33-18, a winning rate of 65%. 66% (29-15) if you take out the COVID year. That’s not a small drop-off.

I’m not talking about comparing us and Wisconsin. I’m talking about the Badgers and what I see, and what the records say.

The issue you is some brought opinions strong that you didn’t like hearing.

 

[frydaze]

THANK YOU.

Good Lord, I’m not talking shit, I’m not spiking a football, and I don’t need Iowa to be amazing to merely DISCUSS a rival/conference foe. I’m a CFB fan above being an Iowa fan.

From 2013-2017, Wisconsin went 54-14, a winning rate of 79%.

Since then, they’re 33-18, a winning rate of 65%. 66% (29-15) if you take out the COVID year. That’s not a small drop-off.

I’m not talking about comparing us and Wisconsin. I’m talking about the Badgers and what I see, and what the records say.

And one could counter too that Iowa has lost 5 of their last 10 games- that is something Badger fans might see and say Iowa is in a decline.

 

[IaHawk44]

I feel like Wisconsin is on a slow downward trajectory. The OL play just hasn’t been the same the last few years, they were never great at QB, but they were always smart. The talent at WR is below average.

The bones of the defense will always be very good as long as Leonhard is there, but they’ve lost so many guys to the NFL the last few years and I think it’s caught up to them this season.

First year with a new OC, so I’m sure there are some growing pains, but this is the third year in a row now where they just look…different.

Discuss. Or not, that’s fine too.

Jon Budmayr leaving in 2021 may have something to do with it. I'm hoping for overall improvement from Iowa's QBs, I mean really hoping and I'll wait until the end of the season before I make that observation.

 

[nu2u]

“Because fvck Wisconsin! That’s why!”

@EvilMonkeyInTheCloset trademark infringement

 

[SDHawkDoc]

wisky does look to have fallen off some. Of late they are also struggling with a not particularly good qb who hasn't been able to meet their usual game manager qb standards. O-line also appears to be down for them this year.
The comment above I found the most interesting is regarding the illini and the opportunity they have. Beating Iowa wouldn't be all that impressive this year given where the Hawks are at, but it would still be a significant win for them. What would mean even more is if they could take out wisky. The only game on their schedule that seems unwinnable is against um. I'm not saying they've arrived. Far from it. But if Bret wants to make a statement that illini football is back from the dead, he's got the opportunities in front of him this year.

 

[Greenway4Prez]

The issue you is some brought opinions strong that you didn’t like hearing.

I’m going to try to translate this, tell me if I’m wrong:

“The issue is some brought strong opinions that you didn’t like hearing.”

The only opinion I have argued is this notion that we can’t talk about Wisconsin as long as they’re better than us or have scoreboard. That’s a really silly standard. I have not actually responded or argued with any post, so I’m not even really sure what I allegedly don’t like hearing.

And one could counter too that Iowa has lost 5 of their last 10 games- that is something Badger fans might see and say Iowa is in a decline.

Sure, I mean, I think as long as our offense continues to be stuck in the bottom 10% of the country that we will decline.

 

[cecilB]

since Barry left they have slowly declined. Coincidence? Chryst better pray Leonard doesn’t leave for a HC job anytime soon.

Barry Alvarez was 5 games over .500 in the Big Ten over 16 seasons

 

[pistachio1999]

The West is trash, for one.

Sounds like an Iowa State fan.

 

[1stplacehawk]

Put me down for Illinois going 0-2 over the next two weeks. They’ve shown very little to suggest the have “arrived.”