This team can get back here next year but will have major voids to fill in the post. One more year Warnock!
Pay for Warnock’s dental school for one more year!
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I like Stulke, but it seems like a good post looking to transfer would love to play with this team next year. You get lots of easy ones by running the floor and rolling to the hoop, plus you almost never get doubled in the post because of the shooters.
If Warnock gets into the Iowa dental school I don’t know why she wouldn’t play another year.
I keep seeing a lot of these posts.
Did you ever think some people are ready to move on in their lives and careers?
My buddy does a lot of $800,000 to $1,200,000houses. A lot of his clients are dentists.
Did you ever think some people are ready to move on in their lives and careers?
My buddy does a lot of $800,000 to $1,200,000houses. A lot of his clients are dentists.
A career in dentistry will be there for decades, as will the million-dollar home. Only one more year to win a natty!
Agreed. Wouldn't that be the same ass going to grad school?
Gotta raid the portal for a stud forward. Iowa has to be an incredibly intriguing place for a transfer. You have three starters returning and the best player in college basketball coming off a runner-up finish. Stuelke and Grady are good role players, but there is a HUGE absence without Czinano. Hoping we can get a solid transfer to help that spot.
The hardest part of replacing Warnock will be her shooting. It is hard to imagine Stuelke being a scoring threat outside of 8 feet. It is hard to stretch the floor when she is on the floor playing the 4 and not Warnock.
I dont think you have ever been in a top level dental/medical program of study. Four years work toward a PHd level diploma with a ton of studying as I watched my wife go through it in med school. Study study study. And I dont think they want you missing classes to go on road trips.
Warnock may already know she has been accepted.
It’s a lot of work, but that kind of thing is not unprecedented. Athletes at Iowa have done it before.
Why are we raiding the portal? Hand pick specific girls, whether in portal or not, and sent representatives to see what it would cost to get them to Iowa. There’s no rules, play like it.
Warnok is a good player, but we need a tall, athletic rebounding, good to great scoring machine from the portal for the upcoming season to help win it all with Caitlin.
No, but I went to law school, which I imagine is comparable the first year. Not saying it would be easy, but the chance to play on a national title team is pretty rare. I guarantee the school would work with her, it’d be great exposure for them.
who at Iowa has done this before? were they in a post grad health care school or were they pre-med or dental?
Vinny Wagner was the most recent. He’s now in orthopedics. Forgot the other guy. He came though about 15 years ago. Now that I think more about it, I think the other guy started medical school after he was done competing.
The College of Medicine worked with Vinny to accommodate his training and competition schedule. He was definitely a M1 his last year of competition.
Sounds like a moot point based on the press conference anyway. Doesn’t seem like there’s any chance Warnock comes back.
The College of Medicine worked with Vinny to accommodate his training and competition schedule. He was definitely a M1 his last year of competition.
Sounds like a moot point based on the press conference anyway. Doesn’t seem like there’s any chance Warnock comes back.
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Vinny Wagner. Former Iowa 197-pounder. Was in his last year of competition during his first year of medical school. Now an orthopedic surgeon.
Postgraduate work is extremely difficult. I don't think I'd recommend it along with the demands of being a D1 athlete.
Well Dr Wagner, the ortho surgeon, must have been something. Who are the other guy(s) M Warnock should model her life after to entertain us?
A career in dentistry is indeed a stable and enduring choice, offering job security for years to come. Likewise, the aspiration of owning a million-dollar home is a significant life goal for many. It's essential to plan wisely for both personal and professional aspirations. In this context, I'd also like to introduce www.vipdentalny.com, a valuable resource for those considering or already in the field of dentistry. They offer valuable insights, guidance, and services to help you navigate your dental career successfully. As for the "natty" reference, I'm not entirely sure of its context, but I wish you the best of luck in achieving your goals, whether in dentistry, homeownership, or any other endeavor!
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How much money do you think Iowa women's basketball has to throw aroung?
I'm thinking less than you think.
I call BS. Post graduate work is not necessarily "extremely difficult". Some disciplines are difficult, others are not. I worked fulltime in a factory 6 days a week on the second shift and got a graduate degree in one year. Just depends on what discipline you are talking about.
Does anyone know if/where Warnock ended up enrolling for dentistry school? Did she stay at Iowa?
If Stulke can improve her FT shooting, she is going to be a really good player. I don't follow the women's team enough to know about their other interior players. Agree that it shouldn't be hard to attract a transfer.
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I highly agree. I got a masters in journalism, it was a piece of cake and tbh as easy as undergrad. I went part time but could have done full time and worked with little issue. I don’t think that’s the case for dental school tho. If it’s like med school, there are bench marks you have to meet each year, going part-time isn’t rly a thing at most schools. I could be wrong but I’d guess it’s not rly how it works at Iowa. For these programs it’s your whole life.
One thing that wasn’t rly mentioned here is that Warnock could have pursued something else relevant as a bit of a “filler” just to take the COVID year, like a certificate in health sciences (grad or undergrad). That actually could have been rly beneficial if she didn’t get into her first choice of program. Lots of kids have done this for the COVID years and I know people who have done this to boost their CV. But it’s possible Warnock just wasnt interested in that and thought it could hinder her progress. In any case, I think bringing back Martin and Marshall in lieu of Warnock was the right move. I’ve mentioned this before but IMO we have too many talented Fs to let them rot on the bench (Stuelke, Affolter, Feuerbach, Gyamfi, Edigar in that order, I’d say). None of them may ever match Warnock’s 3 pt % but they have higher ceilings and better fundamentals, esp with regard to ball handling and speed. Stuelke and Affolter are at least as good at rebounding if not much better.
We have discussed the reasons ad nauseum but Bluder has long struggled to attract elite talent (likely a combo of an only somewhat above average post-season history, lack of major alums in the WNBA, the B1G being relatively mediocre until this years, the location/climate/isolation of Iowa City, and an (unfair) perception that our roster is, well, rly rly white (the recent pitting of Clark against Aliyah Boston and Angel Reese did not help with that). I think it’s unreasonable to expect that to change overnight.
However, things certainly are trending in the right direction. Our number of ESPN top 100 recruits has steadily increased over the last few years and overall the caliber of competing offers as well as rankings for our 2024 / 2025 commits are really promising. The same can be said for our remaining targets — some of them (including those which have unequivocally expressed mutual interest) would be huge, huge gets and Bluder is highly invested in a few of them.
IMO we just don’t need a transfer for this year as bad as everyone thinks. We have a lot of talented kids on the bench. It can be easy to brush them off as not worthy of a starting spot but a lot of them (especially Stuelke, Edigar, McCabe, Affolter, O’Grady, Feuerbach) would already be starting on a lot of P5 teams. Feuerbach for example started a few games as a freshman at Iowa State. These kids all know the system and their roles, and have the luxury of 3 summer games + a very early fall scrimmage to continue to gel. Yes, chemistry was a huge part of the success of the 2023 team, but Czinano and Warnock had a lot of weaknesses. So much of their success came from simply embracing Bluder’s system and putting in the work. I think Bluder and Jensen might be the best developmental duo in the country.
Bluder said recently and I concur that a number of our 4/5 players could be just as good as Czinano and Warnock. They were both incredibly efficient offensively and that won’t happen overnight, but they can come pretty damn close IMO. And on the defensive end they likely all already are better. Stuelke (who can stay in front of anyone) and O’Grady (an excellent shot blocker ant 6’4) are going to be the best defensive front court Iowa has seen since 2019.
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I thought grad school was, in some ways, easier than undergrad. I was also not a dental student, so that does make a difference of course.
I also played rugby in grad school but that's also less commitment and time consuming than basketball (I assume).
I think one of the considerations here (but I could be wrong), is that they believe Stuelke has the potential to be better than warnock, and with minutes could get there this year. Two of the 3 posts came in higher rated than Cinzano, so its about buying in and putting in the work.
Shikreto - (honest question) regarding the really, really white team thing, did people have the same complaints when Ionescu was at Oregon? I think that was a really, really white team other than the Sabally sisters. I don’t recall a lot of chatter back then; however, I wasn’t quite as involved in social media when she was at Oregon, other than following her TDs. I
know that at least this year in the W there was a lot of talk going on earlier in the season regarding the attention she was receiving over Black players. I haven’t seen anything recently, though.
interesting that Oregon’s wbb recruiting seems to have fallen off recently and that several highly ranked recruits have left the program in recent years.
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Yes, they 100% did. Some see the Iowa vs SC dynamic as SC vs Oregon pt 2. People who see the game thru this lens call Ionescu “ponytail”…the hate she gets in the WNBA is really unwarranted. She is relentlessly attacked anytime she promotes herself.
Actually, after Iowa beat SC, Ionescu tweeted “What could have been!” (her big shot to take them down was canceled in the 2020 season due to COVID) and it did not go over well.
Oregon’s program has seemingly become a dumpster fire bc of their coach. As an example, when his team lost early in the tourney last year, he threw his players under the bus and said they just didn’t work hard enough.
Word on the street is that the only reason they hit the highs they did a few years ago was their assistant coach, who just started as HC at TCU this year. It was not a surprise that he landed Sedona Prince out of the portal.
Other former standout players who left seemed miserable at Oregon. Jaz Shelley left for a mediocre program (and loves it there tbh), Sydney Parrish has literally stated on the record that she grew to hate playing basketball at Oregon. Taylor Mikesell chose to txfr a second time rather than stay.
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hawkahawk and shikreto are right about the turbulence in Oregon's program, and the numerous transfers out (and in), but it might be a little early to call Oregon a dumpster fire, notwithstanding a poor 2022-23 season, and early exit from the 2022 NCAA tourney.
Oregon's lineup this fall will include two sophomores, Chance Gray and Grace VanSlooten, whose ESPN HoopGurlz ratings (7 and 13) are higher than any players in the BIG this upcoming year, except Caitlin Clark and Ashley Owusu. Oregon will also have a freshman this fall, Sofia Bell, a McDonald's AA, who is rated higher at 26 than the entire existing BIG recruiting class, except 1 recruit for Maryland (Riley Nelson). Finally, Oregon has a class of '24 commit from Katie Fiso, whom ESPN rates as the # 31 recruit (higher than all of Iowa's '24 commits). So the existing and incoming talent level remains very high at Oregon, especially by BIG standards. Will be interesting to see if Oregon rights the ship this season.
Even so, if poor coaching, and the success was more due to the assistant coach, think of the Lickliter situation and Butler. The womens game is increasing dramatically in competitiveness, and pure talent is no longer ruling the day. You can have all the talent in the world, but without a cohesive solid game plan they will struggle, and that environment does not seem inviting. So if the players are leaving after their first year, what do they really have??
While I think you may have a point, its also possible some amount of the leveling of the playing field may be due to the Covid years and transfer portal. A player with 6 years of experience may be better in their last year than a 5 star in their 1st or 2nd.
Thank you for your insight and info! I forgot that Shelley had also transferred from Oregon. Will be interesting to see what happens there this year.
I hope you are right bunsen82 about the increasing competitiveness of WBB, and would love to hear more why you say that. I am not sure what to think. I tend to think that the pool of elite talent is relatively small in WBB, and that with earlier female maturation, it is easier for the blue blood schools and coaches to correctly identify and attract the truly elite talent. The team that was # 1 all last regular season had 9 McDonald's All Americans. The team that won the national championship had 3 McDonald AA's (LSU's 3 leading scorers). Since 2010, every team to win the national championship has had 3 or more McDonald AA's, except Texas A&M in 2011.
If Iowa or Va Tech had broken through and won the national championship, I would feel better about WBB truly being more competitive. Otherwise, perhaps Iowa and Va Tech just resemble teams like Washington or Syracuse, who somewhat recently made a final four, only to fall back. Similarly, I would also feel better about increasing competitiveness if national player of the year awards weren't won exclusively by top 25 high school players (except for Megan Gustafson), and the AP All American team wasn't dominated by top 40 high school players.
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