No....not failure. Just a learning experience. We'll give you a learning experience trophy anyway....OK?
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No....not failure. Just a learning experience. We'll give you a learning experience trophy anyway....OK?
Proves my point. His style of wrestling hasn't changed in the last five years. Mega wrestles now like he used to wrestle McDonough .
To be fair to mega, I thought he deserved to win. He was the aggressor in the match. He was creating more action with the ties than NATO was.
My grandma created more action with a broom.
125 - Lots of suspense. Just knowing something was going to happen - breathtaking. Megaludis can't get over the hump. Nato- A-, Nico B+
133 - Conoway is the worst wrestler in the country for the first three minutes. And, he's the best in the last four - holy cow! DiJulius is not good. Conoway A, DiJulius D
141- Jordan was underwelming and Gulibon can't stick to a game plan. Jordan B-, Gulibon C+
149 - Rutherfoarde A+. Looks good beating tOSU room guy.
157 - Nolf A++. He's sooooo good. Coach's son gets a C for not getting teched. [Does Nolf ever pin anyone or does he just like playing with his food too much?]
165 - Boring. Penn State guy did nothing and Jordan showed he just a little better than PSU guy at doing nothing. C+ for both guys.
174 - Actually a good match. Nickal is funky and Martin came close. B+s for both. Bravo!
184 - I went to the kitchten to get food.
197 - I wasn't paying attention, but McIntosh sure looked good. B+ for Morgan
285 - Synder is great. I really look forward to seeing him against Gwiz, Hall, and Coon. Synder gets A, PSU heavyguy gets a C.
Megaludis can't get over the hump. Nato- A-, Nico B+133 - Conoway is the worst wrestler in the country for the first three minutes. And, he's the best in the last four - holy cow! DiJulius is not good. Conoway A, DiJulius D
141- Jordan was underwelming and Gulibon can't stick to a game plan. Jordan B-, Gulibon C+
149 - Rutherfoarde A+. Looks good beating tOSU room guy.
157 - Nolf A++. He's sooooo good. Coach's son gets a C for not getting teched. [Does Nolf ever pin anyone or does he just like playing with his food too much?]
165 - Boring. Penn State guy did nothing and Jordan showed he just a little better than PSU guy at doing nothing. C+ for both guys.
174 - Actually a good match. Nickal is funky and Martin came close. B+s for both. Bravo!
184 - I went to the kitchten to get food.
197 - I wasn't paying attention, but McIntosh sure looked good. B+ for Morgan
285 - Synder is great. I really look forward to seeing him against Gwiz, Hall, and Coon. Synder gets A, PSU heavyguy gets a C.
Penn State's newbie ignorant fan base is quite entertaining. I suspect 5 years ago when the word "wrestling" was stated the first vision in their heads was WWF.
Their quick screams for "Stalling!" make even Iowa fans look slow to pull the trigger. Most don't understand what constitutes a takedown. If a PSU guy is a little higher in a scramble they're screaming "Two! Two!". They "Boo!" obvious proper calls. It's a large mass of petulent grappling ignorami.
Their quick screams for "Stalling!" make even Iowa fans look slow to pull the trigger. Most don't understand what constitutes a takedown. If a PSU guy is a little higher in a scramble they're screaming "Two! Two!". They "Boo!" obvious proper calls. It's a large mass of petulent grappling ignorami.
Honest question: When was the first time you saw the Hawks wrestle in person?
Fair grades ... While you were in the kitchen, McCutcheon was earning an A-/B+ by completely shutting down a guy who has always given him trouble.
And Nolf is 2nd in the NCAA and first in the B1G with 10 pins, so he must get tired of playing with his food eventually.
And Nolf is 2nd in the NCAA and first in the B1G with 10 pins, so he must get tired of playing with his food eventually.
I get some of what you are referring to, but hometown crowds are going to be that way. There's only a handful of programs where you'd hear ANYTHING being yelled out from the stands on TV. Lucky for you that it looks like the Penn State program will be very successful for the foreseeable future. Our fans will eventually develop into the class and sophistication that decades of success have done for Iowa fans.
Smart commentary. Nobody in PA knew anything about wrestling til Cael arrived.
I would guess about 20% of the current fans new enough to not be so entertaining.
Seriously...I think you're wrong. Sarcasm or not on your part, I really doubt they develop any sophistication. Sad to say. That was pitiful.
The crowds at Rec Hall tend to be a bit more reserved in calling for 2, stalling etc. It's an unavoidable side effect of adding 10k people to that core season ticket holding group when moving to BJC. You are just bound to get some obnoxious people. It would be irresponsible to attribute a behavior to the whole fan base that is only exhibited by a few people.
If it makes you feel better, I heard of the great PA/east coast "mat wrestlers" 40 plus years ago. Plus, Iowa State had many great PA wrestlers in their lineup back in the late 70s and throughout the 80s. Serious wrestling fans know all about the sport and it's history. I think some you guys are a bit too touchy.
I suppose in your mind your post was warranted and you actually believe you had a point and made one.
Ok. Thata boy. You put me in my place.
When ask why are you going to Iowa State?
Kevin Darkus answered, "I want to be a national champ. If you want to be a national champ you go to Iowa"
Wrestled same time frame as Darkus and Nate Carr. Happily between. Never the same weight.
Seriously...I think you're wrong. Sarcasm or not on your part, I really doubt they develop any sophistication. Sad to say. That was pitiful.
Considering how their football fans behave on BWI that's a pretty safe assumption.
Wrong person to ask...I went at Hounded one time with that angle and I think he has seen every NCAA tourney since the 80s? Is that right Hounded?
Not quite. My first one was in 1979 in Ames. I went to a couple in the 80's. I don't know the total number, but I know I've now been to 21 NCAAs in a row.
Awesome, that makes it easier for this non-controversial conversation. Now you mean to tell me that you're not used to the home fans trying to influence a call or an opponent's mindset by yelling things that they know aren't necessarily warranted? We all know doing that isn't necessarily a sign of ignorance.
I'm used to it. It's that Penn State has taken it to a new level. And I certainly don't think the majority of it is intentional. If it is, it's not a sign of soaring intelligent quotients in Happy Valley. The volume of pleading on certain obvious calls/no-calls that would only bring a "wait and see" anticipation in Iowa City are obvious. It's like embarrassingly watching some people laugh before a joke's punchline. And that is why I was entertained by it.
I'm sure they'll mature as the years go by. But for now I at least can get a wagging-my-head-grin out of it.
Thought McCutcheon looked very good especially coming off the knee injury. Nolf is an incredible talent but I was equally impressed with McIntosh. Couldn't believe how he just toyed with the OSU 197 lbr. Hopeful that McIntosh and Burak meet at the Big Tourney but more excited to see McIntosh vs Cox at Nationals.
Are you lost? This is an Iowa board. Go post about PSU wrestlers on their board. Sheeeeesh!
Could have fooled me. The PSU and Iowa talk have been about 50/50 lately.
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The only anti-PSU talk here is anti-PSU Trolls.
You seem to be a main component of our problem.
If you Trolls would leave, then there wouldn't be any anti-PSU stuff going on.
You seem to be creating the problem you're complaining about.
A lot of people liked this response and rightfully so, however, I am sure you know this was the beginning of Dan Gable Dominance. Could you please explain how when you started following Iowa Wrestling in the late 70's at the start of Gable dominance is any different then some of these PSU fans getting serious about it at the beginning of Cael Dominance?
First, where did I say there was a great difference? Is that really my point? My point is that the PSU fans' extreme ignorance highly entertains me.
Second, despite that, there is a difference. I knew of Gable when I was a young lad, and I already loved real wrestling. I was also a fan of Iowa State. Mike Land came to our practices in a nearby town. I loved watching the epic battles between Iowa and Iowa State.
Third, I never screamed "Two!!" when a wrestler was merely draped over another, or yelled "Stalling!!!" when a guy is fighting with all his might in the middle of a turn.
The main body of PSU are just in a childish stage. And I choose to find some entertainment value.
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Gable won 10 titles in his 1st 11 years and I doubt he ever had a #1 recruiting class. Also, Iowa was Gable's only HC job. Get back to us when Cael does than.
The way PSU posters gush about their team, I can't believe they are not disappointed that their team is not wearing the Roman numeral one on their singlets.
