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Pete Hegserh as Defense Secretary

Age isn't the issue—experience is. Hegseth is stepping into a role that demands a level of expertise and depth he simply hasn't attained. As a commentator, he may know the headlines, but his highest military rank was captain in the National Guard. His resume doesn’t even come close to meeting the standards required for Secretary of Defense.
I know many teachers with this rank and many with higher ranks in the national guard. None of them are qualified to hold the position thes fox news parrot is being gifted.
Go USA....
 
Here are some things I think are critical for which I don’t see this candidate having demonstrated excellence:
  • Experience leading a very large organization, with particular emphasis on ways to foster the next generation of leaders, streamline process, cut bureaucracy and implement wide-scale organization change
  • Demonstrated ability to think strategically and proven capacity to successfully apply strategic skills in a dynamic environment
  • Experience in high level negotiations in particular when it comes to development and procurement of next generation weapons
  • Deep experience in military tactics with particular emphasis on how warfare is changing in real time (Ukraine/Israel lessons). Ability to apply that knowledge to change US strategic posture accordingly
  • Demonstrated leadership experience leading/coaching/training other leaders vs. individual contributors
  • Proven ability to attract, retain and inspire world class talent
  • The character and integrity to follow the laws of our nation, challenge illegal orders, uphold the dignity of the office and demand the same from your organization
Now maybe he has the innate capacity for these things, but his resume doesn’t show it to-date. Basically he is a wild card, which is not shocking since that is who Trump likes and that is who he attracts. There are literally thousands of people in this country that are more qualified for this job than the dude he picked.


Some very reasonable basic skill sets and experiences here. What I find amusing is the MAGA types cannot proactively outline what a good set of experience or qualities are, generally just reactive "yeah, he is okay because...." and tailer the answer to the person nominated. We saw that in the thread about "what leadership qualities for President". The lack of actual exp is gonna be a problem if he ends up with the job.
 
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You were all about requiring the Covid vax to make sure there was military readiness. Of course it turned out it didn't really accomplish that because the Covid vax didn't prevent infection or spread, and there's also a much higher risk of myocarditis in military age men.

Being anti-covid-vax doesn't mean anti-vax. You will always double down though. It's your best talent. Vegas would love you.
 
watching arrested development GIF
Austin goes off for some medical issue and doesn't let anyone know, that's dereliction of duty.
 
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He’s going to be a lackey that can’t say no to trump.

Y’all know that Trumps first AG was ****ing Jeff Sessions. A guy I HATE. Yet was fired/resigned for not following orders.

Trump was too extreme for that ****ing idiot.

You think we would have learned a lesson there.
Learned is not in the magat dictionary. Not that any of them knows how to use a dictionary.
 
OK, I'm leaning back to you being a parody account.

Winston Churchill? Why didn't you just tag George Washington while you were at it.

He doesn't have remotely the resume of a Churchill or a Rumsfeld at the time they took their positions. These are completely ridiculous and absurd comparisons.

He's a talk show host. Basically on the same level as his game show host boss as far as relevant experience for the job.

But in the short term, liberals are being owned! That's what's important! Who cares when everything goes to shit later!
Winston Churchill was a war correspondent during the Boer War and wrote books about his experience. He was born to wealth. (his full name/title was Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill.)
 
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Winston Churchill was a war correspondent during the Boer War and wrote books about his experience. He was born to wealth. (his full name/title was Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill.)
You know he wasn’t successful in his first stint as First Lord of the Admiralty, right?

He did a bad job.
 
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This is a strange appointment. We will see how he does at his interview with Congress.
 
This is a strange appointment. We will see how he does at his interview with Congress.
Many of us said pre-election that the “classic” GOP folks won’t be the ones chosen for these offices. Trump learned his lesson from his last term when he was rebuked by his AG, his Sec of State and on and on. Plus if you were one of those folks would you want to be anywhere near Trump’s chaos and bullshit?

The only requirements I can see are: 1) complete devotion to Trump and 2) look the part. Competency is a nice to have.
 
I'm very excited about this selection, 2 Bronze Stars, actual combat experience.
How do you feel about his unit considering him a radical white supremacist?

He may be the greatest Secretary of Defense ever, but he doesn’t have what would be considered a strong resume for the position. I hope he is great.
 
You know he wasn’t successful in his first stint as First Lord of the Admiralty, right?

He did a bad job.
Actually, the legend that is Winston Churchill can be attributed largely to the fact that he was the writer of his own history. I personally think his performance was subpar throughout his career, but since it was a political position for the most part, he had his hands tied the first time around.

I am more of a believer in Pete than I am in Mr. Churchill's legend.
 
How do you feel about his unit considering him a radical white supremacist?

He may be the greatest Secretary of Defense ever, but he doesn’t have what would be considered a strong resume for the position. I hope he is great.
Sure. The left has used that attack so frequently it has lost all meaning.
 
Actually, the legend that is Winston Churchill can be attributed largely to the fact that he was the writer of his own history. I personally think his performance was subpar throughout his career, but since it was a political position for the most part, he had his hands tied the first time around.

I am more of a believer in Pete than I am in Mr. Churchill's legend.
And that he was the key person in Britain withstanding the Nazis and winning the war. There is that of course. At least we have you to tell us subpar WINSTON CHURCHILL is in your esteemed opinion.
 
Many of us said pre-election that the “classic” GOP folks won’t be the ones chosen for these offices. Trump learned his lesson from his last term when he was rebuked by his AG, his Sec of State and on and on. Plus if you were one of those folks would you want to be anywhere near Trump’s chaos and bullshit?

The only requirements I can see are: 1) complete devotion to Trump and 2) look the part. Competency is a nice to have.
Trump should absolutely not going with leaders that are blessed by the DC establishment. Whether this guy is the right person or not is yet to be seen but it does seem strange. I bet he will put an end to trans and woke crap in the military. If that is all he does it is an improvement
 
How do you feel about his unit considering him a radical white supremacist?

He may be the greatest Secretary of Defense ever, but he doesn’t have what would be considered a strong resume for the position. I hope he is great.
I think it is fantastic, he is a champion for veterans, He has combat experience and he has leadership experience.

Nearly three in 10 defense secretaries never served in the nation’s Armed Forces
 
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Sure. The left has used that attack so frequently it has lost all meaning.
It wasn't the left making the claim about him. Per his interview it was his unit, base on hit tattoo and you would have to assume what he said and how he acted.
 
I think it is fantastic, he is a champion for veterans, He has combat experience and he has leadership experience.

Nearly three in 10 defense secretaries never served in the nation’s Armed Forces
You missed this question How do you feel about his unit considering him a radical white supremacist?
 
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Really, name the last one since 1940?

Sure. This is a list from 1960 on. A total of 6 Sec Defs did NOT serve in the military.

More than one in four defense secretaries, however, never served in the Armed Forces, or six of 21 (29 percent).

Four of these six men without military service were appointed by Republican presidents: Charles Wilson (Eisenhower), Neil McElroy (Eisenhower), James Schlesinger (Nixon), and Dick Cheney (George H.W. Bush).

Harold Brown (appointed by Carter) and William Cohen (Clinton) also never served. (Brown had been a consultant to the Air Force Scientific Advisory Board from 1956-1957, a member of the Board from 1958 to 1961, and Secretary of the Air Force from 1965 to 1969).


 
You missed this question How do you feel about his unit considering him a radical white supremacist?

Putin has to be quadrupley excited that Trump will put racists in charge of the military, to further undermine America's armed forces.
 
Churchill and Rumsfeld were Thinkers! and recognized as such. It sounds as if Mr. Hegseth might be cut from the same mold.

We already have all of the regurgitators of old ideas that are needed.

I also love that Mr. Trump is thinking along the same lines. We do need a massive rebuild across the entire society ... although the issue at hand is focused on National Defense.
I sure hope these folks are serious thinkers—though, honestly, that shouldn't be a high bar to clear. Trump seems to be focused on rewarding personal loyalty rather than qualifications. There’s no way to argue there aren’t hundreds more qualified than Hegseth for the role.
 
Sure. This is a list from 1960 on. A total of 6 Sec Defs did NOT serve in the military.

More than one in four defense secretaries, however, never served in the Armed Forces, or six of 21 (29 percent).

Four of these six men without military service were appointed by Republican presidents: Charles Wilson (Eisenhower), Neil McElroy (Eisenhower), James Schlesinger (Nixon), and Dick Cheney (George H.W. Bush).

Harold Brown (appointed by Carter) and William Cohen (Clinton) also never served. (Brown had been a consultant to the Air Force Scientific Advisory Board from 1956-1957, a member of the Board from 1958 to 1961, and Secretary of the Air Force from 1965 to 1969).


So how many of those had no political experience?
 
He looks and sounds the part though, that's what's important.

Welcome to MAGA-land, welcome to the shitshow.
Oh yes! They have a hard time meeting quotas for years. The military is doing everything they can to make sure there is enough soldiers. Good luck with making it even less desirable to be in the military.
 
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