Yeah...been in medicine for 25 years? That doesn't mean you cant be deadassed wrong. My family MD smoked over 2 packs a day for years. How did that work for him? Lets just say hes not around to worry about covid 19.
Please just end the idiocy and cancel the football season
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Wait, so you think studies regarding the effectiveness of masks with respect to airborne viruses has nothing to do with Covid, an airborne virus? LOL. You really are an idiot.
I believe covid is real but the reaction to it is way overblown . i believe a mask won't stop the virus just like your pants don't stop you from passing gas. I believe we never should have shut down anything. However I do think they will cancel football just because
ever notice that nobody has proven that it is Airborne or in droplets of water or on surfaces?
New confirmed cases in the U.S. are in the 2nd week of steep decline.
https://www.google.com/search?q=us+...7j69i59j0l4.6064j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
yes but with my shorts on and pants on when I pass gas and light a match there is no flame. With clothes off i can blow a flame from my ass.
Try to stick with us. The discussion is about whether masks are effective protection against Covid. Whether it can be caught from touching contaminated surfaces has nothing to with masks. But the CDC says it is airborne droplets which are transmitted through the air and may be caught from touching a contaminated surface.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/non-us-settings/overview/index.html
So, do you think that studies determining that masks are ineffective in protecting against airborne viruses don’t have any applicability to covid? That ought to be pretty easy to answer for a science guy that is so sure about his position.
Worst argument ever. And I love that it is repeated. Stupid should have free reign. Smart should stay home. Good luck with that.
Lots of names in this thread that I recognize from the good old days of me being in the Lounge.
Carry on with bickering.
Carry on with bickering.
Don’t keep patting yourself on the back as being “smart” when you clearly have no idea about the existing science on masks. Or start citing to studies that proves that mask use is indisputably effective as you have claimed. It’s laughable that you keep calling yourself smart.
I don't need to cite anything for the troller in chief. Look up the Fauci. He is an expert. Not you or me.
When one of your kids gets sick or spreads it to someone in the groups that are more susceptible I hope you feel guilty.
Here’s a CDC press release from 3 weeks ago affirming “that cloth face coverings are a critical tool in the fight against COVID-19 that could reduce the spread of the disease, particularly when used universally within communities.” It even includes this quote from the CDC Director:
“We are not defenseless against COVID-19,” said CDC Director Dr. Robert R. Redfield. “Cloth face coverings are one of the most powerful weapons we have to slow and stop the spread of the virus – particularly when used universally within a community setting. All Americans have a responsibility to protect themselves, their families, and their communities.”
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0714-americans-to-wear-masks.html
I have noticed when I engage any self-claimed “science guy” and provide citations supporting my point, to a man they ignore, disengage or talk in circles without ever providing any link to a credible study or source supporting their position. You think Fauci has done studies in the last three months that override decades of studies and science on the efficacy of masks protecting against airborne viruses?
One guy said the science on masks is unsettled which I happen to agree with. Jimmy McGill said he was dead wrong. I provided proof that the science is in fact less than settled.
That the CDC now proclaims to wear masks doesn’t make the science on the effectiveness of masks settled. Remember, in early March Fauci was telling everyone that masks weren’t necessary.
I will disengage with someone that I have no interest in discussing things with. If you choose not to wear a mask, I hope you and Darwin can talk about it. You probably think you have every right to not wear a mask. I don't believe you have the right to get the rest of us sick.
2020 folks. The Lounge in doing a board invasion against HROT.
Whatever @jhawkeye23 ‘s expertise is, he might have changed my mind on drunk driving. My stance for the last 15 or so years has been that it’s awful.
But he says “How about this... How about letting grown ass adults decide for themselves where they can and cannot go. If you are fearful of getting sick or are an at risk individual, then by all means stay home. I have been in medicine for 25 years and know the "facts" of this. You don't isolate healthy individuals! I am tired of this narrative that "if you don't do a, b & c, then you are putting others at risk or that you are insensitive to others. Let adults make adult decisions.“
Now I’m thinking, I’m a grown ass adult. I don’t want to spend money on an Uber and I want my car in my garage when I wake up. If people are afraid of drunk drivers, they can stay at home hiding under their beds. The facts are that in all of 2016, only 10,497 people were killed in traffic accidents involving alcohol. We’re at 155,000 Covid deaths in 6 months. So if that’s not too many, then 10,500 definitely isn’t! And I used to be a pretty good drunk driver 20 years ago. Never got so much of a scratch on my car. So maybe I’m coming around on this “letting adults make adult decisions.”
In the case of Covid science doesn’t really know. The CDC has been a complete embarrassment.
Yes. Science generally is advanced by studies. The CDC released in February 2020 a summary of the most recent studies on the effectiveness of masks to protect against airborne viruses and the consensus was that masks are generally ineffective in providing protection. So if people are taking the position that it is now undisputed science that masks protect against airborne viruses, i would expect such person to be able to cite to a STUDY that supports that position. A press release by the CDC is not a study.
And mortality is related to how a state classifies deaths. Connecticut counts both confirmed and probable cases in it's total while some other states do not. And let's not even talk about the seven day average for deaths in Connecticut versus other states.
Connecticut didn't have a single Covid related death yesterday.
Florida - 225
Texas - 220
Arizona - 83
Georgia - 67
You're absolutely correct. You isolate sick individuals. You quarantine exposed healthy individuals to see if they get sick.
Well now I have to ask if you know how reading press releases works?
"This review included two case studies out today, one from JAMA, showing that adherence to universal masking policies reduced SARS-CoV-2 transmission within a Boston hospital system, and one from CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), showing that wearing a mask prevented the spread of infection from two hair stylists to their customers in Missouri."
And way to ignore everything that's happened since February. Should we still consider the earth the center of the solar system? Science told us it is (a few centuries ago, but still - science).
Here's some info from the WHO from June citing Stanford studies.
https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-n...ntists-contribute-to-who-mask-guidelines.html
The new guidelines recommend that everyone who comes in close contact with others in crowded or close quarters, such as on a bus or in a store, wear a cloth mask composed of at least three different layers of material. People 60 or older, or those with underlying health conditions, should wear medical masks, such as surgical masks, in public, and physicians and health care providers should wear medical masks in all areas of a hospital, even if the area in which they are working has no COVID-19 patients, according to the organization.
The new guidelines were devised after WHO officials reviewed information from researchers at Stanford and elsewhere about the ability of cloth masks to slow the spread of the disease, which has now infected more than 8 million people worldwide and caused more than 400,000 deaths.
Fake quoting me. Awesome. Anyone that thinks football is more important than public health should take a real look in the mirror and determine whether they should have kids in their house.
Pandemics are a part of human history. Go back your history books and read how folks reacted to the Spanish flu. Much better than we are today. Some folks got shot for not wearing masks.
Your reaction is one of a demented old man. You know better. Have another Hamms and tell yourself you are right.
For the Locker Roomers who emigrated (but most assimilated), what is "the lounge"? We like it here and have your back.
