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Possible fallout from Fran's firing for women's program

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Some POSSIBLE fallout from Fran McCaffery's firing could be a strained relationship between Caitlin Clark and the athletic department. Fran is obviously the father of Connor who has been dating Caitlin for several years now. Also, everyone who really knows Fran speaks VERY highly of him, so it's safe to assume that Caitlin and Fran are close. Obviously the womens program, and more specifically Coach Jensen, had nothing to do with Fran's departure, so that relationship is safe. But I can't help but think that the relationship with between Beth G/athletic dept and Caitlin is a little awkward at the moment.

Also, with Fran leaving, Owen Freeman is in the portal and likely gone. Owen and Taylor McCabe have been dating for more than a year now. Owen is probably hoping to enter the NBA draft after one more year at a school like Michigan (or where ever he ends up), might Owen and Taylor be a package deal? Taylor has 1 year left, has several NIL deals and is a civil engineering major, which would be a tough major to transfer to another school.

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Caitlin is pretty damn smart. I don’t she will sabotage her own business interests in defense of Fran.
I’m sure she understands the business side of it .,

Oh, I agree that she will not do anything publicly, but she a very loyal person.
 
Some POSSIBLE fallout from Fran McCaffery's firing could be a strained relationship between Caitlin Clark and the athletic department. Fran is obviously the father of Connor who has been dating Caitlin for several years now. Also, everyone who really knows Fran speaks VERY highly of him, so it's safe to assume that Caitlin and Fran are close. Obviously the womens program, and more specifically Coach Jensen, had nothing to do with Fran's departure, so that relationship is safe. But I can't help but think that the relationship with between Beth G/athletic dept and Caitlin is a little awkward at the moment.

Also, with Fran leaving, Owen Freeman is in the portal and likely gone. Owen and Taylor McCabe have been dating for more than a year now. Owen is probably hoping to enter the NBA draft after one more year at a school like Michigan (or where ever he ends up), might Owen and Taylor be a package deal? Taylor has 1 year left, has several NIL deals and is a civil engineering major, which would be a tough major to transfer to another school.

Stay tuned
I would be more concerned that BG will have to promise more resources to the new MBB coach at the expense of WBB.
 
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Some POSSIBLE fallout from Fran McCaffery's firing could be a strained relationship between Caitlin Clark and the athletic department. Fran is obviously the father of Connor who has been dating Caitlin for several years now. Also, everyone who really knows Fran speaks VERY highly of him, so it's safe to assume that Caitlin and Fran are close. Obviously the womens program, and more specifically Coach Jensen, had nothing to do with Fran's departure, so that relationship is safe. But I can't help but think that the relationship with between Beth G/athletic dept and Caitlin is a little awkward at the moment.

Also, with Fran leaving, Owen Freeman is in the portal and likely gone. Owen and Taylor McCabe have been dating for more than a year now. Owen is probably hoping to enter the NBA draft after one more year at a school like Michigan (or where ever he ends up), might Owen and Taylor be a package deal? Taylor has 1 year left, has several NIL deals and is a civil engineering major, which would be a tough major to transfer to another school.

Stay
 
I would be more concerned that BG will have to promise more resources to the new MBB coach at the expense of MBB.

I’m not too concerned with this. I think Beth is a realist, While she wants to see excitement and more importantly more butts in seats for the men’s program I think she also knows she doesn’t have the resources to make the men’s program a perennial Big contender let alone National contender. You hope for some nice runs but again know you can’t go toe to toe with the Bluebloods.

The WBB program is the total opposite, The program is on the cusp of being able to go toe to toe with the Bluebloods and you don’t have to break the bank to separate yourself from the vast majority of WBB programs. I just don’t see her wasting the opportunity to help the WBB program from taking the right steps. Bottom line in my view, Taking a million bucks from the WBB program to give to the men’s program isn’t going to be a game changing amount to change the men’s program, Taking a million from the WBB program would likely be a momentum changer for the trajectory of the WBB program.
 
Some POSSIBLE fallout from Fran McCaffery's firing could be a strained relationship between Caitlin Clark and the athletic department. Fran is obviously the father of Connor who has been dating Caitlin for several years now. Also, everyone who really knows Fran speaks VERY highly of him, so it's safe to assume that Caitlin and Fran are close. Obviously the womens program, and more specifically Coach Jensen, had nothing to do with Fran's departure, so that relationship is safe. But I can't help but think that the relationship with between Beth G/athletic dept and Caitlin is a little awkward at the moment.

Also, with Fran leaving, Owen Freeman is in the portal and likely gone. Owen and Taylor McCabe have been dating for more than a year now. Owen is probably hoping to enter the NBA draft after one more year at a school like Michigan (or where ever he ends up), might Owen and Taylor be a package deal? Taylor has 1 year left, has several NIL deals and is a civil engineering major, which would be a tough major to transfer to another school.

Stay tuned
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I’m not too concerned with this. I think Beth is a realist, While she wants to see excitement and more importantly more butts in seats for the men’s program I think she also knows she doesn’t have the resources to make the men’s program a perennial Big contender let alone National contender. You hope for some nice runs but again know you can’t go toe to toe with the Bluebloods.

The WBB program is the total opposite, The program is on the cusp of being able to go toe to toe with the Bluebloods and you don’t have to break the bank to separate yourself from the vast majority of WBB programs. I just don’t see her wasting the opportunity to help the WBB program from taking the right steps. Bottom line in my view, Taking a million bucks from the WBB program to give to the men’s program isn’t going to be a game changing amount to change the men’s program, Taking a million from the WBB program would likely be a momentum changer for the trajectory of the WBB program.
rev share percentages would be the worry. Iowa has opportunity to offer the players on the women's team an amount that might sway the balance for recruits. If that is at the expense of the percentage given the men's team, it could factor. I mean, I hope not, because that would mean they are hiring an insecure coach. Nevertheless, a small worry.
 
I’m not too concerned with this. I think Beth is a realist, While she wants to see excitement and more importantly more butts in seats for the men’s program I think she also knows she doesn’t have the resources to make the men’s program a perennial Big contender let alone National contender. You hope for some nice runs but again know you can’t go toe to toe with the Bluebloods.

The WBB program is the total opposite, The program is on the cusp of being able to go toe to toe with the Bluebloods and you don’t have to break the bank to separate yourself from the vast majority of WBB programs. I just don’t see her wasting the opportunity to help the WBB program from taking the right steps. Bottom line in my view, Taking a million bucks from the WBB program to give to the men’s program isn’t going to be a game changing amount to change the men’s program, Taking a million from the WBB program would likely be a momentum changer for the trajectory of the WBB program.
Well said. I agree and I think we will be able to add 1-2 top players to work with Addie Deal and have a great nucleus for a few years.
 
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rev share percentages would be the worry. Iowa has opportunity to offer the players on the women's team an amount that might sway the balance for recruits. If that is at the expense of the percentage given the men's team, it could factor. I mean, I hope not, because that would mean they are hiring an insecure coach. Nevertheless, a small worry.
On top of that, as stated elsewhere they are getting the key recruits on campus. Can't make the sale, match the offer, or counteroffer, if they don't take your call. The good news is with Lucy, this offseason, and current 26' 27' recruiting relationships BG is going to make an informed decision when allocating these funds in terms of actual roster impact. She won't be completely guessing with that revenue share. How is that going to alter, if at all, the current IWBB model that appears to be more unique in its "more equal" payout? Have we heard any news with that yet?

This offseason will be interesting as another barometer for how much/little impact it has on team "unity" or player "happiness".
 
Won't Fran get a very big buyout? Why would he be unhappy?
He was probably getting close to retiring anyway, right?
 
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No fallout. CC never talks and she would have nothing to gain and some to lose if she did. She knows this and that may be the most impressive things about this 22 year old- she never talks negative or gets into the middle of a situation. So disciplined.
23 year old....
 
Won't Fran get a very big buyout? Why would he be unhappy?
He was probably getting close to retiring anyway, right?
No shit. Hey Fran heres 4 mil, now go away. "Thank you mam, can I have another"....Poor Fran...
 
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The good news is with Lucy, this offseason, and current 26' 27' recruiting relationships BG is going to make an informed decision when allocating these funds in terms of actual roster impact. She won't be completely guessing with that revenue share. How is that going to alter, if at all, the current IWBB model that appears to be more unique in its "more equal" payout? Have we heard any news with that yet?

Yes, if I'm understanding your question right.

There are a minimum of 3 main bags/arms players can extract funds in ~a month from now.

Using the IA/Swarm as an example:
1) Base/Charity Arm - might be $4k/mo - $20k/mo - Different players could have different "bucket" amounts of more or less than another player based on a contribution projection of All-American, 1st Team B1G, a starter, a sub, a bench cheerleader, etc etc. The reason is non-Rev Share funds can not have performance incentives tied to them. Hence, projected status vs performance bonus(es). Examples: All-Am ($20k/mo), 1st Team B1G ($15k/mo), starter ($10k/mo), sub ($7k mo) and bench cheerleader ($4k/mo).
2) Corp Inc Arm - unlimited to what you can negotiate with an unlimited # of corp bags like CC did.
3) Athletics/Rev Sharing Arm - $100k/yr base + performance bonus(es) (ie over 750 points gets you another $25k, etc, etc).

#3 above is what is unknown to the recruits right now. Suspect there are some or many players waiting for this to take root 1st. The settlement ruling could happen as early as April 7th.
#1 and #2 above can be found out now if they wanted and these arms can not have performance bonuses tied to them.

Now Iowa's Rev Share might designate $100k/yr to each player in women's basketball. However, other programs could offer more or less than $100k/yr. Some schools may give out $200k/yr to each player on the women's team + performance bonuses. These numbers are unknown right now until the settlement ruling(s) come out soon.

Brad also brought up discussions between these 3 arms on what arm can pay what? What can Atheletics/Rev Share arm pay? What can Swarm pay 1st? (eg Collectively: What can Base/Charity pay? What can Corp Inc pay?) My thought on this was so they could leave a portion of Rev Share for incentive bonuses to make it a better deal if a player performs at certain levels (total points, assists, rebounds, etc, etc). Here's even a potential example. Kylie gets $250 for each charge she takes or for every 5 charges she gets another $1,000. Incentives could even be tied to how many years you stay with program to retain your development endeavors as long as possible with a player.

Depending on the players motives and opportunities, this Rev Sharing could put a hold on some commits making decisions now. If they're smart and they want to take the easy way and possibly retire early, they're going to shop for the best financial package with built-in incentives. That will take some time even after all the rulings come out to figure this out because there could be a lot more negotiations involved at every program recruits have offers from.

As Brad has stated, these girls all have agents now to do this for them. They can just sit back and wait for the final numbers to come back and then make a decision on what's best for them.

This is why you want culture based players who want to have fun playing on a winning program with sellouts crowds as much as possible to keep these payments from spinning out of control by buying a team every year. Whether that can truly be done over time is another question.

For more info on this:
HawkCast - BRAD HEINRICHS: CEO of SWARM Talks Transfer Portal, Changing NIL Landscape
 
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How is that going to alter, if at all, the current IWBB model that appears to be more unique in its "more equal" payout? Have we heard any news with that yet?

I don’t believe the WBB program is using the equal shares for all model, I believe Kirk in football and Lisa in BB originally liked that model but from listening to Brad Heinrichs ( guy that runs swarm ) go into pretty good detail on Swarm’s operations I don’t believe football or WBB is following that model. I have also heard Jan make references in regard to figuring out how to divvy up the pie.
 
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I think the main thing to take note of, is that if the women's team gets any percentage more than what you see throughout the conference/country, it will come from the football slice, or the men's basketball slice, which will take up the vast majority of the money allotted to the schools, so that's a decision that can have repercussions throughout the athletic programs in balance. There is a good argument for IWBB getting a little extra based on attendance/performance, but it's a number that is currently a question mark. Getting the slightly bigger percentage may counter the kind of NIL the players might get elsewhere, and *might* be noticable quickly in recruiting the '26 class.
 
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That’s a lot of possibilities. Not to mention what happens when she possibly breaks up with Connor. Something that a 23 year old has never done, ever.
 
I'm sure personally, it's tough due to Fran being her boyfriend's father. But CC is smart and probably has a stellar PR team. For her to have beef with the Iowa athletic department over the firing of someone who wasn't even her own coach would be a bad look, dare I say even petty. She won't say anything and she'll still have a healthy relationship with the Women's Basketball program.
 
Yes, if I'm understanding your question right.

There are a minimum of 3 main bags/arms players can extract funds in ~a month from now.

Using the IA/Swarm as an example:
1) Base/Charity Arm - might be $4k/mo - $20k/mo - Different players could have different "bucket" amounts of more or less than another player based on a contribution projection of All-American, 1st Team B1G, a starter, a sub, a bench cheerleader, etc etc. The reason is non-Rev Share funds can not have performance incentives tied to them. Hence, projected status vs performance bonus(es). Examples: All-Am ($20k/mo), 1st Team B1G ($15k/mo), starter ($10k/mo), sub ($7k mo) and bench cheerleader ($4k/mo).
2) Corp Inc Arm - unlimited to what you can negotiate with an unlimited # of corp bags like CC did.
3) Athletics/Rev Sharing Arm - $100k/yr base + performance bonus(es) (ie over 750 points gets you another $25k, etc, etc).

There's a ruling update on this House Settlement portion of NIL. It also references the April 7th date I mentioned and its purpose.

This ruling would alter some of the text I wrote in my prior post with waiting to negotiate on or after April 7th. That is no longer the case as that has been going on now since February if not earlier. It appears programs can lock up commits now if they wanted to move forward with them trusting that the House Settlement will be approved April 7th. Think it would be prudent to negotiate it now and then sign after it's approved April 7th as long as you don't lose a big commit over it.

Franisdaman posted this on the MBB and FB forums already. Maybe he can make a new thread in WBB forum as well. Thought I'd share it here as well since I just wrote about it yesterday in this thread. Since this is going to be a major part of recruiting going forward, I will copy and paste the whole article text below. It makes it easier to search for at a later time.

Iowa QB Mark Gronowski reportedly is getting $1.3M for the upcoming football season. As you will read, he likely has a contract not only with SWARM but with the Iowa athletic dept (revenue sharing).

Similar negotiations will be happening
with high school MBB prospects and MBB prospects in the transfer portal.

Some excepts from the linked article:

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Dan Murphy
ESPN.com
Mar 17, 2025, 06:13 PM ET

The NCAA has agreed to permanently drop its rule prohibiting athletes from negotiating the terms of name, image and likeness payments until after they enroll in school.

The NCAA's now-abandoned rule was designed to try to keep schools and booster collectives from using NIL deals as a recruiting incentive for incoming high school athletes and players in the transfer portal. Though schools and boosters were allowed to speak generally about the kind of financial opportunities that might be available on campus, they were prohibited from making a specific offer to an athlete until he or she was enrolled.

On February 23, 2024,
a federal judge in Tennessee granted a preliminary injunction against the rule. The injunction has allowed booster collectives and schools to make specific financial offers to athletes in the recruiting process during the past year. Monday, March 17, 2025's settlement makes this change permanent.

Revenue sharing:


The NCAA's current rules state that only third-party groups can pay athletes for their NIL rights, but that is on track to change this summer. Each school will be able to share roughly $20.5 million with its athletes via NIL deals next academic year -- a figure that is expected to steadily rise during the 10-year lifespan of the settlement.

Many schools have already started signing contracts with their athletes
in anticipation of the settlement's approval. Monday March 17, 2025's agreement clears the way for schools to continue negotiating the specific terms of these deals with athletes during the recruiting process.

The Full Story:


Article Title: NCAA to let athletes negotiate NIL deals before enrollment

"The NCAA has agreed to permanently drop its rule prohibiting athletes from negotiating the terms of name, image and likeness payments until after they enroll in school.

The change is one of the terms of a legal settlement announced Monday between the NCAA and a group of state attorneys general, who sued the association last year claiming that the restriction on NIL negotiations violated federal antitrust law. The settlement, which still needs to be approved by the judge overseeing the case, marks another step forward as the college sports industry prepares to embrace a more professional business model in the months ahead.

The NCAA's now-abandoned rule was designed to try to keep schools and booster collectives from using NIL deals as a recruiting incentive for incoming high school athletes and players in the transfer portal. Though schools and boosters were allowed to speak generally about the kind of financial opportunities that might be available on campus, they were prohibited from making a specific offer to an athlete until he or she was enrolled.

Despite efforts to keep money from becoming an inducement, many coaches have publicly stated that NIL packages are a major factor in the decision-making process of recruits. [This is what Jan said that no recruit had asked her about academics in the last 6 months in the recruiting process.]

Tennessee's attorney general, Jonathan Skrmetti, filed a lawsuit challenging the rule last January, one day after the University of Tennessee revealed that its athletic department was being investigated for potential recruiting violations. Skrmetti argued that the rule kept athletes from negotiating with a school when their bargaining power was at its peak during the recruiting process. Florida, New York, Virginia and Washington, D.C., subsequently joined the lawsuit against the NCAA.

"With a multi-billion-dollar entertainment industry rising from the foundation of college sports, the kids who make it all happen should not be the only people denied an opportunity to prosper," Skrmetti said in a statement Monday. "This settlement benefits generations of student-athletes, protects Tennessee universities from NCAA retaliation, and pushes college sports toward a new equilibrium that acknowledges financial reality while preserving competitive integrity. I'm glad to see the NCAA give up on defending a world that no longer exists."

Last February, a federal judge in Tennessee granted a preliminary injunction against the rule. The injunction has allowed booster collectives and schools to make specific financial offers to athletes in the recruiting process during the past year. Monday's [3/17/2025] settlement makes this change permanent. The NCAA's current rules state that only third-party groups can pay athletes for their NIL rights, but that is on track to change this summer.

The association and its most powerful conferences have agreed to let schools pay athletes directly as part of the terms for a separate antitrust settlement, widely known as the House settlement. A hearing to approve the terms of that deal is scheduled for April 7. As part of the House settlement, each school will be able to share roughly $20.5 million with its athletes via NIL deals next academic year -- a figure that is expected to steadily rise during the 10-year lifespan of the settlement.

An NCAA spokesperson said the deal was the result of months of negotiating with the states involved.

"This agreement continues the progress we have made over the last few years in allowing prospective and transferring student-athletes to seek out NIL opportunities," the spokesperson said. "This judgment is fully consistent with the House settlement and underscores our support for student-athletes benefiting from their NIL and our commitment to provide increased benefits to student-athletes at every stage in their collegiate experience, creating a sustainable model for the future of college sports."

Many schools have already started signing contracts with their athletes in anticipation of the settlement's approval. Monday's agreement clears the way for schools to continue negotiating the specific terms of these deals with athletes during the recruiting process."

 
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Some POSSIBLE fallout from Fran McCaffery's firing could be a strained relationship between Caitlin Clark and the athletic department. Fran is obviously the father of Connor who has been dating Caitlin for several years now. Also, everyone who really knows Fran speaks VERY highly of him, so it's safe to assume that Caitlin and Fran are close. Obviously the womens program, and more specifically Coach Jensen, had nothing to do with Fran's departure, so that relationship is safe. But I can't help but think that the relationship with between Beth G/athletic dept and Caitlin is a little awkward at the moment.

Also, with Fran leaving, Owen Freeman is in the portal and likely gone. Owen and Taylor McCabe have been dating for more than a year now. Owen is probably hoping to enter the NBA draft after one more year at a school like Michigan (or where ever he ends up), might Owen and Taylor be a package deal? Taylor has 1 year left, has several NIL deals and is a civil engineering major, which would be a tough major to transfer to another school.

Stay tuned
Highly doubt that
 
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