And some people view the American flag as political. Likewise with the Pledge of Allegiance. Why aren't you and the others who are worked up over this calling for the removal of those symbols?
Pride unity flag in my kid's classroom! So much HBOT fodder...
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It is blatantly exclusionary and divisive, for one.
What Does Jesus Say About Pride? - Christian Website
Pride is an issue that impacts all human beings, even those seeking to faithfully follow Jesus. If left unchecked, pride can grow into an all-consuming sin
www.christianwebsite.com
“Jesus strongly warns his followers against pride and teaches that true greatness comes from humility and service, not self-exaltation. He calls the proud ‘blind’ and makes it clear God opposes them.”
A person would say that, when incapable of a rational reply or rebuttal.
How do I reply rationally to such an idiotic post? You're an imbecile.
I accept that you concede the point.
It is shocking to me that some may not have ever considered the exclusionary nature of the political movement that flag represents.
One might say idiotically inconsiderate.
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I think that’s the way life should be. Teachers are there to do just that….teach.
Doubt it would.
Which translation does that come from?What Does Jesus Say About Pride? - Christian Website
Pride is an issue that impacts all human beings, even those seeking to faithfully follow Jesus. If left unchecked, pride can grow into an all-consuming sin
“Jesus strongly warns his followers against pride and teaches that true greatness comes from humility and service, not self-exaltation. He calls the proud ‘blind’ and makes it clear God opposes them.”
This is where I fall. Middle school is awful for all kids. Especially awful for lgbtq kids. I have to believe that it is even worse in a religious school. I would actually be surprised if this teacher does anything other than hang the flag as a way to let kids know that he is a safe person should they need support.
No, it isn't. It's inclusive. That's the whole point, Elon ball licker.
If the rainbow flag is not “political”, what would you define it as?
Burn the SOB.........Back to school night at my kid's school, 7th grade. Private "Christian" School.
My wife attended with my 7th grader, and all the parents met in the English teacher's room, where he'd hung a flag like this one:
My take is split:
My view against: How does this help the teacher teach 7th grade English better? How is it that I learned English without ever knowing the political or social views of my teachers.
This is unprofessional and inappropriate for the classroom. IMO there's no place for this, or maga flags, etc. In schools. The exception would be if a civics/social studies teacher had multiple flags of all sorts representing many viewpoints as fodder for discussion, etc.
My view for: My kid is going to be exposed to multiple viewpoints forever, and he needs to learn to work together with people of all kinds. Middle School is a reasonable time to start expanding those views understand things from multiple perspectives. This teacher is going to share things from a perspective he won't get at home, yet we'll have a chance to field those questions that arise from whatever influence/indoctrination this teacher tries (BTW the teacher isn't gay/trans/etc. He's a white male in his 40s married with boys the same age as mine. This is just virtue signaling).
What say you HBOT? Should I speak up to the school? Say anything? Or just kind of let it play out? What would YOU do?
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Why don't you accept the explanation from the people who created it?
How Did the Rainbow Flag Become a Symbol of LGBTQ Pride? | Britannica
It means more than just “red, orange, yellow, green, blue, and violet.”
www.britannica.com
From the linked article in post #17:
But even though I’m proud to be gay, you won’t find me at any rallies this June. The Pride movement has been hijacked by a left-wing agenda, and some of its advocacy is actually setting gay people back.
A quick look at the national Pride website reveals not a neutral agenda advocating for all gay people, but a blatant endorsement of progressivism — even on issues that have little to do with gay rights. Advocate.com, a news website affiliated with the Pride movement, contains a glowing profile of gun-control advocate Emma Gonzalez on its homepage, even nominating her for their “Hall of Fame.” Another article openly calls on gay people to “fight for gun reform.”
LOL, one's personal pride.What Does Jesus Say About Pride? - Christian Website
Pride is an issue that impacts all human beings, even those seeking to faithfully follow Jesus. If left unchecked, pride can grow into an all-consuming sin
“Jesus strongly warns his followers against pride and teaches that true greatness comes from humility and service, not self-exaltation. He calls the proud ‘blind’ and makes it clear God opposes them.”
Back to school night at my kid's school, 7th grade. Private "Christian" School.
My wife attended with my 7th grader, and all the parents met in the English teacher's room, where he'd hung a flag like this one:
My take is split:
My view against: How does this help the teacher teach 7th grade English better? How is it that I learned English without ever knowing the political or social views of my teachers.
This is unprofessional and inappropriate for the classroom. IMO there's no place for this, or maga flags, etc. In schools. The exception would be if a civics/social studies teacher had multiple flags of all sorts representing many viewpoints as fodder for discussion, etc.
My view for: My kid is going to be exposed to multiple viewpoints forever, and he needs to learn to work together with people of all kinds. Middle School is a reasonable time to start expanding those views understand things from multiple perspectives. This teacher is going to share things from a perspective he won't get at home, yet we'll have a chance to field those questions that arise from whatever influence/indoctrination this teacher tries (BTW the teacher isn't gay/trans/etc. He's a white male in his 40s married with boys the same age as mine. This is just virtue signaling).
What say you HBOT? Should I speak up to the school? Say anything? Or just kind of let it play out? What would YOU do?
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He didn’t say they deserved tolerance, he told them to put down their sin and follow him. WTF. Where do people get this?
When one of my kids was in middle school, a teacher put up Green Bay Packers and Chicago Bears flags in his room. Since this was in MN…he was trolling all the Viking fans. I got a chuckle out of that.Back to school night at my kid's school, 7th grade. Private "Christian" School.
My wife attended with my 7th grader, and all the parents met in the English teacher's room, where he'd hung a flag like this one:
My take is split:
My view against: How does this help the teacher teach 7th grade English better? How is it that I learned English without ever knowing the political or social views of my teachers.
This is unprofessional and inappropriate for the classroom. IMO there's no place for this, or maga flags, etc. In schools. The exception would be if a civics/social studies teacher had multiple flags of all sorts representing many viewpoints as fodder for discussion, etc.
My view for: My kid is going to be exposed to multiple viewpoints forever, and he needs to learn to work together with people of all kinds. Middle School is a reasonable time to start expanding those views understand things from multiple perspectives. This teacher is going to share things from a perspective he won't get at home, yet we'll have a chance to field those questions that arise from whatever influence/indoctrination this teacher tries (BTW the teacher isn't gay/trans/etc. He's a white male in his 40s married with boys the same age as mine. This is just virtue signaling).
What say you HBOT? Should I speak up to the school? Say anything? Or just kind of let it play out? What would YOU do?
Perhaps, because it’s a way, hopefully, to unite ALL Americans (not just a single group)?
Holy shit you’re retarded. PFLAG stands for Parents and Friends of Gays and Lesbians. The guy had a wife and family but was putting it out there that he wasn’t there to judge. One can be straight and not be a total dick.
One can also be a total closet case and flip out about gay things every opportunity they get. Like you do.
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Mathew 7:1 - 7:2
Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Luke 6:27 - Luke 6:36
But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.
32 “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that.34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
1) that is why I askedWhy don't you accept the explanation from the people who created it?
How Did the Rainbow Flag Become a Symbol of LGBTQ Pride? | Britannica
It means more than just “red, orange, yellow, green, blue, and violet.”
2) article (in surmising, correct if wrong) says flag was created for Pride for the gay community, what purpose does that serve in education ?
I love those passages. Loving your enemy doesn’t mean telling them to keep sinning, or to promote sin. You can a love a person while not supporting their sin. I love my cousin who has a drinking problem. I would tell him alcohol is bad, love you cuz, if you need anything or anyone to talk to, I’m here for you. It wasn’t, yeah Josh, go get hammered buddy. I’m not condemning, I’m just not not promoting. In the same way, I would attend a gay wedding, but would not want my church to perform gay marriage. To each his own. You also didn’t address the putting down the sin part.
hawkeyetraveler
HB Heisman
I personally don’t believe being gay is a sin. So “putting down the sin” doesn’t come into play for me when it comes to sexual orientation.
We are probably just going to agree to disagree on this. You obviously think homosexuality is a sin. I don’t. I also don’t believe the entire world flooded, that Noah put two of every animal on his boat or that the world was created in a handful of days. We all choose what parts of the Bible is literal, what parts are figurative and what parts are just archaic stories Jewish elders told their flock.
So, ALL Americans should be forced to believe in the lifestyles of LGBTQ individuals?
I swear I'm not looking for an argument but only a question... isn't gay only one part of that flag?
Pride flag is political? Shit! I guess anyone who supports the LGBTQ community is forced to vote D? And anyone who votes R is not allowed to give such support?
And you wonder why this country can be so f’d up.
Holy crap. You are on to something. I might let Kim Reynolds know this tomorrow and we will see public schools get all their money back since private schools have flags and we don't.
Unsurprising that you would go to this extreme.
Accepting of lifestyles other than your own is unifying. I am not religious but I completely accept the lifestyle chosen by those who are.
BTW - how would a flag force you to "believe in the lifestyles of LGBTQ individuals"?
So you’d be perfectly fine with an “All Lives Matter” flag then? Sure you would. I mean…equality and all.
Back to school night at my kid's school, 7th grade. Private "Christian" School.
My wife attended with my 7th grader, and all the parents met in the English teacher's room, where he'd hung a flag like this one:
My take is split:
My view against: How does this help the teacher teach 7th grade English better? How is it that I learned English without ever knowing the political or social views of my teachers.
This is unprofessional and inappropriate for the classroom. IMO there's no place for this, or maga flags, etc. In schools. The exception would be if a civics/social studies teacher had multiple flags of all sorts representing many viewpoints as fodder for discussion, etc.
My view for: My kid is going to be exposed to multiple viewpoints forever, and he needs to learn to work together with people of all kinds. Middle School is a reasonable time to start expanding those views understand things from multiple perspectives. This teacher is going to share things from a perspective he won't get at home, yet we'll have a chance to field those questions that arise from whatever influence/indoctrination this teacher tries (BTW the teacher isn't gay/trans/etc. He's a white male in his 40s married with boys the same age as mine. This is just virtue signaling).
What say you HBOT? Should I speak up to the school? Say anything? Or just kind of let it play out? What would YOU do?
Sucks you have to deal with that crap. Not sure if anyone would know what that flag is at our kids' private school. School does not hire gays or any man that is not married with at least one kid. They keep the creeps out. It's totally worth the money for private schools to have teachers that are top notch and zero bullshit.
What exactly do you mean by lifestyle? We have LGBTQ in every walk of life. Do you think they all have the same lifestyle? Your question is really confusing.
The flag is there so kids know it’s a safe space even if their parents are backward bigots…like a dozen posters here.
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