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Probably pepsi - Trumps suspends all federal grants and loans disbursed by the federal government

Carte blanch freeze on money allocated by Congress is not pepsi. It would be more assuring if we were discussing a group of people with common sense and reason. This administration is a gaggle of simpletons directed by an Orange idiot with tentacles of pathetic infected congress members slobbering over his stinky feet.
 
the biggest issue is the uncertainty around this

i deal with federal funds (some discretionary grants) and if we knew what was actually happening/what was being reviewed/what was subject to the pause, we could react accordingly

but we don't...it's just a guess based on the fairly vague language in an executive order (which are always annoyingly hard to interpret/put into action)

what will most likely happen is things will move forward, but we'll end up wasting time and money trying to react to this
 
the biggest issue is the uncertainty around this

i deal with federal funds (some discretionary grants) and if we knew what was actually happening/what was being reviewed/what was subject to the pause, we could react accordingly

but we don't...it's just a guess based on the fairly vague language in an executive order (which are always annoyingly hard to interpret/put into action)

what will most likely happen is things will move forward, but we'll end up wasting time and money trying to react to this
What will likely happened, based on like 90% of his EO's between term 1 and term 2, is this will be immediately challenged in courts and struck down.

Thus, like you said, wasting time and money reacting to it.
 
What will likely happened, based on like 90% of his EO's between term 1 and term 2, is this will be immediately challenged in courts and struck down.

Thus, like you said, wasting time and money reacting to it.

Will it or will the SCOTUS decides he has powers unlike any other president in American history? Just like they decided he has immunity unlike any other president in American history.
 
Carte blanch freeze on money allocated by Congress is not pepsi. It would be more assuring if we were discussing a group of people with common sense and reason. This administration is a gaggle of simpletons directed by an Orange idiot with tentacles of pathetic infected congress members slobbering over his stinky feet.
This is an AWESOME post especially when one reads it in Howard Cosell's voice.
 
the biggest issue is the uncertainty around this

i deal with federal funds (some discretionary grants) and if we knew what was actually happening/what was being reviewed/what was subject to the pause, we could react accordingly

but we don't...it's just a guess based on the fairly vague language in an executive order (which are always annoyingly hard to interpret/put into action)

what will most likely happen is things will move forward, but we'll end up wasting time and money trying to react to this
Trump loves chaos. This is such a terrible way to handle things. If he wanted to wind down things the uncertainty would at least be somewhat manageable for the companies involved.

The foreign assistance freeze already had American contractors losing their minds.
 
Will it or will the SCOTUS decides he has powers unlike any other president in American history? Just like they decided he has immunity unlike any other president in American history.
Trump wants to be the one and only decision maker of where ALL OF OUR MONEY goes. That's his whole reason for wanting to end FEMA. The dictator wants to decide who gets what.
 
the biggest issue is the uncertainty around this

i deal with federal funds (some discretionary grants) and if we knew what was actually happening/what was being reviewed/what was subject to the pause, we could react accordingly

but we don't...it's just a guess based on the fairly vague language in an executive order (which are always annoyingly hard to interpret/put into action)

what will most likely happen is things will move forward, but we'll end up wasting time and money trying to react to this
Same. I have to call some clients we are helping with on EPA grants and tell them to do a draw down today and prepare for some potential pausing. Lot of uncertainty. Not good for them and also not good for my company. Related, the high ups of my company are by and large team MAGA and exposing in October and November how Trumps election would help us. They are already starting to freak at the uncertainty all over with funding and possible inflation / recession happening. So the dildo of consequences is hitting very close to home already.

It’s day 8.
 
So great I don't know if any of us have health insurance.

2 of my kids are on the medicaid waiver program which provides for their therapies. This is why I can't be friends with Trump supporters. They screw over my kids and then shrug. This is why my wife won't talk to her parents. They screwed over their own grandchildren for their orange god. Which for the record is the only grandchildren they are gonna have because my wife's brother and his wife have pretty much decided to not have children and her brother is considering surgery to this effect.
 
the biggest issue is the uncertainty around this

i deal with federal funds (some discretionary grants) and if we knew what was actually happening/what was being reviewed/what was subject to the pause, we could react accordingly

but we don't...it's just a guess based on the fairly vague language in an executive order (which are always annoyingly hard to interpret/put into action)

what will most likely happen is things will move forward, but we'll end up wasting time and money trying to react to this
Same here. I work with nonprofits and discretionary federal grants as well. I just received the news that one of the veteran organizations I assist has ended its homeless veterans program as it is viewed as a dei no no under the new guidelines.
 
It's going to take the United States a generation to recover from two Trump presidencies. Thanks, MAGAs. You suck.
But we're moving forward with an Iron Dome! That will be super helpful when we face another recession and/or pandemic and/or whatever other act of God that reigns down on us from above due to Trump.
 
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i see a lot of kids on medicaid, oh boy
Cmon it's only 4 million people getting screwed over in Illinois alone!
 
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The memo specifies the pause will not affect Social Security or Medicare benefits, nor does it include “assistance provided directly to individuals.”

Except that it's directly affecting millions of individuals. Keep your head in the sand, though. I'm sure nothing will directly affect you anytime soon. Until it does, then you'll just blame it on liberals somehow.
 
I am empathetic but Medicaid recipients should have turned out to vote and/or voted in their own economic interests. They either didn't turn out or did turn out but wanted to stick it to the libs.
I mean I understand your point to an extent, but there are millions who can't vote or who did support Harris who will be affected. The numbers of Americans impacted by turning off Medicaid and ancillary programs has to be close to 100 million (including those whose jobs are related to servicing those people).
 
Carte blanch freeze on money allocated by Congress is not pepsi. It would be more assuring if we were discussing a group of people with common sense and reason. This administration is a gaggle of simpletons directed by an Orange idiot with tentacles of pathetic infected congress members slobbering over his stinky feet.
Are you afraid someone will miss the millions of dollars for condoms in Ghana or the millions for DEI programs?
 
Are you afraid someone will miss the millions of dollars for condoms in Ghana or the millions for DEI programs?
Shawshank Redemption GIF
 
My brother does pediatric cancer research that is funded by grants from the NIH. F*ck them kids! The "pro life" party strikes again.
 
I mean I understand your point to an extent, but there are millions who can't vote or who did support Harris who will be affected. The numbers of Americans impacted by turning off Medicaid and ancillary programs has to be close to 100 million (including those whose jobs are related to servicing those people).
I understand what you are saying. I am an independent who has pretty much voted democrat for the past decade because of what the GOP has become, and I chose between the best of 2 viable options. To the MAGA, I am a "lib elite" because I think I know what is best for people like being able to eat and stuff. In any event, I am a 50-year old not-poor white guy with a bunch of degrees. I turned out and voted against my own economic interests. Not enough people who actually need help did the same. Not enough women who purport to care about reproductive/abortion issues did the same. Quite simply, not enough people turned out to vote who were going to get screwed by trump, or they did turn out and they voted for trump. These are the consequences, and I do feel badly for the children and needy.
 
I understand what you are saying. I am an independent who has pretty much voted democrat for the past decade because of what the GOP has become, and I chose between the best of 2 viable options. To the MAGA, I am a "lib elite" because I think I know what is best for people like being able to eat and stuff. In any event, I am a 50-year old not-poor white guy with a bunch of degrees. I turned out and voted against my own economic interests. Not enough people who actually need help did the same. Not enough women who purport to care about reproductive/abortion issues did the same. Quite simply, not enough people turned out to vote who were going to get screwed by trump, or they did turn out and they voted for trump. These are the consequences, and I do feel badly for the children and needy.
Sounds like we are about the same person (I too am an independent, around 50 with a bunch of degrees, and voted against my financial interests). Classical liberalism or maybe even libertarian probably best describes my beliefs. But when the choice is Trump or anyone else, anyone else will always get my vote. In any case, the Dems kinda screwed themselves on the turnout this election, in so many ways. So I blame the party as much as the voters.
 
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the biggest issue is the uncertainty around this

i deal with federal funds (some discretionary grants) and if we knew what was actually happening/what was being reviewed/what was subject to the pause, we could react accordingly

but we don't...it's just a guess based on the fairly vague language in an executive order (which are always annoyingly hard to interpret/put into action)

what will most likely happen is things will move forward, but we'll end up wasting time and money trying to react to this

Almost as if these things are written by incompetent people who don't think before doing.
 
Almost as if these things are written by incompetent people who don't think before doing.
oh i disagree

i think the vagueness is part of the point. make people nervous about things that would, after review, be allowable. its the same strategy seen with a lot of the abortion legislation. make things unclear so doctors are unwilling to go any where near the line (because no one knows where the line actually exists)
 
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It is looking like the THC regiment is going to increase significantly over the next 4 years. Except in Don Jr.'s case, he'll be importing that white substance from the South

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