Agree he shouldn’t have committed, but regardless doesn’t excuse low lifers harassing him and his family. We have a lot more toxicity in the state and fans base than we are willing to admit, sad but true !
Proctor will be a bust
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I'm upset with the people who are upset with the people who are upset with the 40-50 year olds who are upset with the 17 year old.
Lol @ people bitching about tweets. Hilarious anyone still takes that shit seriously.
OP is totally right! New recruiting strategy: Recruit the best shotputters in the country! Never played a down of football before? We don't give two shits! You throw a shotput 69 feet so you are a future first round offensive lineman!
This board has reached a new low.
This board has reached a new low.
Even if Proctor is a bust at Alabama, an Alabama bust at OT is an Outland trophy winner compared to what Colby, Plum, Elsbury, or Dejong have shown at RT at Iowa. Proctor would have been a starter right away at Iowa as Freshman just by showing up with a pulse....at Alabama he'll have to be a stud to see early time at OT.
All this Proctor drama makes me want to re-watch Johnny Be Good. Love that flick, movie came out in 1988, for you young folks check it out. Those 5 star egos need a strong girlfriend/hs coach to keep their egos in check.
R u kidding, decommitting a few days before signing day? Texting coaches instead of calling? That screams character issues. He won't last - put it in the bank.
That's the recruiting game, especially at the highest level. If our fans want the program to swim in these waters, they need to be prepared to get bitten by bigger fish.
I will say this, he is no Wirfs. Wirfs was a very good multi sport athlete. Not sure if KP played bball or wrestled but I don’t see him jumping out of three feet of water like Wirfs did and stick the landing like it was no big deal, KP just doesn’t have that flexibility.
And based off of his comment about not wanting to be the star at Iowa that he would have been is concerning. You want to be the star and he sounded as if he wants to be one of the guys at Bama from his interview. It will be interesting to see how he does down south. And man did he burn that bridge down with regards to the comments he made about settling at Iowa. Kid needs to learn some class and just say he decided Bama was the right fit for him.
And based off of his comment about not wanting to be the star at Iowa that he would have been is concerning. You want to be the star and he sounded as if he wants to be one of the guys at Bama from his interview. It will be interesting to see how he does down south. And man did he burn that bridge down with regards to the comments he made about settling at Iowa. Kid needs to learn some class and just say he decided Bama was the right fit for him.
I'm a SEP fan so have watched most of his games. I've always wondered if he's as good as his rating, or if that's a product of his phenomenal size and pretty good agility. I'd focus on him several times/game and while he usually kept his player away from the ball, he did get beat off the edge a few times. What bothered me was I never had my attention drawn to him by a crazy standout play. I also observed what NCHawkeye mentioned about him just disposing of opponents with his hands; it accomplished the goal I guess but not a ton of steamrolling like you'd expect. Pretty graceful for his size on the basketball court, but not much vertical. I think wrestling is much better prep for linemen. Maybe he'll become an All-American...will be interesting to see his career unfold. As an aside, I thought it was comical when he mentioned (in Chad Leistikow's article) one of the Alabama draws was their medical team; don't think you could do better than U of I.
The amount of cringe in this thread. WOW. Some of you are pathetic people.
Decommitting a day before signing day, texting the coaches instead of calling, ghosting the recruit text thread, and then throwing them under the bus basically saying they’re not good enough for him. All of this shows a lack of maturity at best, possibly lack of character.
Some will make excuses for this behavior saying “this is just the recruiting game now.” That’s a poor excuse for this kind of behavior. I played a sport in college, not football but a different sport. I didn’t commit until I was 100% sure of my decision, called the other coaches that recruited me to let them know, and would never even consider making public comments indicating the other schools were somehow beneath me.
The idea that these things are ok because he’s only 18, or that this is just how recruiting works now… is completely BS, in my opinion.
Yeah..... that Ferentz looks like a real moron for ever offering him a scholarship!! 🤣
I would recommend people compare how Harrison Barnes carried himself with his recruitment vs this example. Then think about 2 major factors that were different:
1) NIL
2) family influences
It's easy to attack the kid. Remember he's only 17 years old. The adults are where the focus should be and has been. Accept his decision to leave and move on. There may not have been a fit factor beyond the obvious that he lived 90 minutes west of IC.
1) NIL
2) family influences
It's easy to attack the kid. Remember he's only 17 years old. The adults are where the focus should be and has been. Accept his decision to leave and move on. There may not have been a fit factor beyond the obvious that he lived 90 minutes west of IC.
I would not be surprised if he is a big success at Alabama. I would also not be surprised to see him in Oregon in a year or two.
Look, the kid and his family clearly could have handled it better. I don’t know what sport you played and how long ago but let’s not compare your recruitment to a top 5 player in the entire country. It’s just a different animal.
We don't have a clue how he contacted the Iowa coaches. The texting was from a poster and could be a rumor or assumption. Iowa had a final in home with him the week before and maybe he told them at that time.
Don't know much about the 40 or 50 olds, but I had a "62 Olds that was a great car.
I could see him being a bust. Too much mom from that camp. Even if he is a bust, I think he'd be good enough to be at least our second best OT, and it hurts to lose him. You can still be a decent college OT, not make the NFL, and help a team out.
Lol he's not going to be a bust. Just a bunch of old dudes with hurt feelings trying to puff out their chests and tough it out. I saw him play when he was 9 years old. I emailed coaches from UofI then telling them he was a can't miss player. Yes, that's weird but I mostly did it for myself to document. I watched him play over 100 games. He's a freak athlete. Dominant. Great technique, which will only improve. A mean streak. Legit 6'8 345. He has it all. Barring injury a 1st round pick. He's a great kid and his folks are caring parents.
Wish he would have picked Iowa. Wish he wouldn't have committed in June just a few weeks after his 17th birthday. But it happened. No need to trash him. It's not like he murdered someone. He just picked a different school to play a game.
Wish he would have picked Iowa. Wish he wouldn't have committed in June just a few weeks after his 17th birthday. But it happened. No need to trash him. It's not like he murdered someone. He just picked a different school to play a game.
Pfft.. we didn't want him anyway. Grades, locker room cancer, is he better than what we've got...
That's how you're supposed to do it.
With reference to last comment:
Dr. Jimmy Andrews made Bamas sports program famous (Andrew’s practice is private but has an association with Bama). He became the orthopedic surgeon of athletes such that nearly all high end professional athletes had surgery with him or saw him as a consult prior to surgery. His program is HUGE!
What’s interesting is that he is now as old as the hills and not doing much surgery. Additionally, his Sports fellows often perform the surgery. But they are still playing up his reputation with athletes. Quote: “If you get hurt here, we can guarantee we can still get you in the NFL because you are treated by the #1 NFL/MLB/NBA orthopedic surgeon.” (There are other famous professional athlete surgeons, but he been #1 for many injuries for a long time.)
In reality, some of the best Sports medicine surgeons are not team physicians. They just do not promote their ‘brand’ as much or get paid as much by the orthopedic ‘implant manufacturers’.
The Iowa Sports Medicine program is NOT highly rated. They may perform great surgery and excellent rehab, but perception is reality. Their medical school is highly rated, but this is different than their ratings in orthopedic sports fellowship.
This is why KP brought this up. It is reinforced to recruits and players at Bama.
Thanks for posting this OP. As a former throws coach for 17 years I have an anecdotally thought this for years.
If he puts in the work he will be successful. If he rests on the NIL money he got he won’t. It’s all in his hands. The same would have been true at Iowa. Some definite differences betweenIowa and Alabama - for him if he struggles early he would be given a longer runway at Iowa to move in the right direction. In Alabama they will recruit over him and they have the ability to do so. Just my 2 cents
My point wasn't what Iowa needed to focus on to improve from last year. My point was what Iowa needs for talent that is out of the norm that can make the difference between an "average" team and a "special" team. I agree that o line was by far the worst position group on the team last year and I am on the record saying that many times. But it would be a fools errand to think that a kid out of high school is going to jump in at tackle and make the difference that this team needs to be great. But even if he was able to start day 1 and was as good as you can expect a freshman to be, without upgrades at other positions his impact would be minimal at best.
Under KF, for the most part, there are several positions that have performed at a pretty high level in most years. Of course it ebbs and flows a bit as you can't just duplicate players, but, the position groups of o line, safeties, linebackers, defensive tackles, tight ends and kickers have been pretty solid in most years with average recruits. So if a 5 star recruit from one of those groups comes to Iowa, it is a great get, yes, but, the improvement from a B to an A would not have the same impact as a great player in a position group that isn't nearly as solid. The weakest group by far in KF's tenure has been at WR, so 5 star recruit here could take that positional group from a D to a B or even an A. Now pair that with a QB that can get him the ball, along with those NFL tight ends and even an average o line, and now we have an offense at all 3 levels. Average RB's are plentiful and are serviceable here, but add an above average back and this is a special offense. Pair that with the usually elite or somewhere close to elite defense and solid special teams play, and this team contends for a B1G title.
Well...you said a lot here. Nice work....I suppose.
My original comments to you were based on you stating that, without getting any new O linemen (including Proctor), our offensive line would be "serviceable" next year. I disagree. You go on to suggest that our magically upgraded and serviceable O line, with the addition of a good QB and a good X receiver (along with an edge pass rusher), would get this team to 11 and 1. Again I disagree. I'm wondering if you remember actually how pathetic our line was. I'm sorry....but our new stud QB isn't going to fair well with the current line...even with your playmaker at the X. That combo without a couple of upgrades on the line will likely get us another 7-5 or 8-4 season. Why? Because the defense won't be as good/great next year, IMO.
Anyway....I appreciate your opinion and I've stated mine. It's ok to disagree.
Merry Christmas!
Some of you are acting like you've never had a minor disappointment in life. Weird
Lol his ego got too inflated. Awful presumptuous comment from a kid that’s never taken a college snap.
I agree with others he’s likely regurgitating Saban’s talking points.
No question that is a slap in the face of Iowa’s current roster. He must be getting a boatload of cash, that has really empowered him to display the level of arrogance he has. Has to be maddening to watch him just piss all over the Iowa football program.
