So I can get you on board for NIH/government related grant funding to the tune of several million dollars (that is what it would take) to do longitudinal research to track these kids into adulthood so we can really prove once and for all that the work being done is corrupt, reprehensible, and harmful.
This is spot on. When do we start to allow children hooking up with their teacher because a parent approves. It’s sick to read this thread and see so many who believe child mutilation or chemical castration is ok and especially if a parent approves. Can a child understand how they really feel? IMO there bad parents. They should have to be 18 before they can make a decision. By that time they are old enough to wade through puberty and hopefully become wiser.
It is considered Gender affirming care. It is to help boys feel comfortable with their bodies. It accounts for 97% of all gender affirming top surgeries done on minors. It has been banned by Trump.
No, you are still wrong.
www.uptodate.com
No, you are still wrong.
Gynecomastia is the removal of excessive breast tissue in a man.
A mastectomy is also the removal of breast tissue. They may be grouped together because frequently they are performed to excise cancer.
Gynecomastia is considered an abnormal finding that may be painful. There is an actual diagnosis and diagnostic criteria to treat gynecomastia.
Gender is not a criteria for gynecomastia. A man can not get gynecomastia treated for gender because they are already a man. This is the same reason why a woman can't get breast augmentation covered for gender.
Gynecomastia has not been banned under Trump. You don't know what you are talking about.
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Parents with the guidance of professionals, who hopefully are doing the right thing.
Soooo….not the government?
Trump put an end to chemical and surgical transgender treatment for children. I have been pushing this for quite some time. I believe we will find that the suicide rate does not increase for this population even though their transgender treatment is taken away. I guess time will tell whether transgender care actually does decrease suicidality or whether I am right that it was an activist driven scam.
I can't wait to see the research that results from this executive order.
Protecting Children from Chemical and Surgical Mutilation – The White House
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. Policy andwww.whitehouse.gov
You get that republicans have been all over trying to legislate the hell out of this, right?
You have? Tell us more about this? What is your career field? Have you appeared before Congress?
Well I think this proves why the medical community has lost a lot of credit. They are flat out lying about the purpose of gynecomastia treatment.Prevalence of Gender-Affirming Surgical Procedures Among Minors and Adults in the US
This cross-sectional study uses a national dataset to examine the prevalence of gender-affirming surgical procedures among minors and adults in the US.
Trans surgery does not prevent suicide. This is a false claim by activists.
You are very likely right about this, but not for the reasons you think. Trans surgeries on minors don't reduce suicide because the very rarely happen. Like almost never, and I'm very OK with that.
The medical community in several European countries has changed their tune on castrating kids before Trump even won the election.
Why do you want to cut off some 8 year old kid’s nads?
I haven't and don't want to but it doesn't fit your uneducated narrative.
It doesn’t take a certified genius to read your post and come to the conclusion that you and other doctors feel hamstrung from performing procedures like that due to the penalties you laid out.
Not to put words in his mouth, but the impression I’ve always gotten has been they object to these rules and penalties that are being laid out by people who have no idea what they’re talking about.
The “experts” on this one could be right, and people who are adamantly against transing kids in anyway, whether that’s surgical or not could all be wrong.
And in general I don’t disagree - I just don’t like legislating hard and fast rules with little or no leeway. While not common, there are surgeries that would be blocked by stuff like this that ARE necessary. It’s been pointed out that there’s many surgeries/treatments that aren’t part of helping some transition, but still fall, technically, under that gender-affirming category.
That is unfortunate. My guess is it’s going to take some time but we as a society had to do a reboot on this whole thing, then as examples rise up like you’re talking about we will see changes to how those situations are handled or classified.
You keep referring to surgeries that just don't happen. No one is performing surgeries on 8-10-12 year old kids. Of the surgeries performed on older minors, 97% were performed on cisgender boys to get their breast removed so the conformed to their natural gender. These have now been banned by Trumps EO.
If these surgeries aren’t happening, then why are they stopping something they aren’t doing?
I’d agree…if I thought they were coming from the same place as you.
Because it also stops hormone therapy and puberty blockers. And as I pointed out it also includes surgeries for cisgender minor males for non gender dysphoria procedures that made up 97% of the surgeries.
That’s not what they say they’re stopping doing though.
But that is what they are stopping. Most gender affirming surgery was done after the age of 18. They are stopping surgeries on 18 year old too.
How so? The whole damn situation is creating drama that doesn't need to be created. You think it's about stopping surgeries on minors. These surgeries were rare and almost never for gender dysphoria.
You don’t need a scalpel to do irreversible harm. Puberty Blockers can make a child barren for the rest of their lives.
We're entering a post-research/post-science society so don't count on it.
Because the executive order stops surgery in 18 year olds who are otherwise legal adults in this country. When you're being held hostage like Denver Health to the tune of 89 million in federal funds, you're not going to jeopardize federal funding.
Is a breast augmentation considered Gender affirming care for a woman? The answer is no.
Come on, you threw a big fit when iowa made gender surgeries and puberty blockers illegal. There were still kids getting these procedures done in other states. You are a liar.
It’s so much more loving and caring to let them be disfigured and permanently scarred and damaged.
