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Protecting children from chemical and surgical mutilation

Because the executive order stops surgery in 18 year olds who are otherwise legal adults in this country. When you're being held hostage like Denver Health to the tune of 89 million in federal funds, you're not going to jeopardize federal funding.
This is because medical providers have become irresponsible with their care and were unwilling to use their own judgement. They jumped on board with an activist agenda and started performing experimental medicine on kids that causes permanent harm and disfigurement.
 
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I'm sure you feel that way and believe it's true regardless of the actual statistics. It's part of what makes you MAGA

There is a significant lack of followup for detransitioners. This is mentioned in many research articles including the cass report.

Many follow up studies only follow participants for a few months after surgery. But gender surgery is a life long change. They may regret transitioning at any point in their life. Transgender patients will require a lifetime of meds and treatment. I used to have a trans cancer patient who told me all the gender stuff was for vanity. He said none of it matters once real medical issues occur like getting cancer. It was far to much work to pretend you are a girl when you are fighting to stay alive.

No one really knows what the rate of detransition is because it has not been tracked reliably.
 
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There is a significant lack of followup for detransitioners. This is mentioned in many research articles including the cass report.

No one really knows what the rate of detransition is because it has not been tracked reliably.
So your feelings tell you that much later in life the happy people become sad.
Well you know what they say - fuq your feelings.
 
I'm saying getting trans surgery is like getting a tattoo underage. What you think is cool at 16-20 likely is not cool at 45.

There is a reason we don't let kids make life changing decisions.
And that is why the minors don't make the decision without the aid of their parents and doctors.
But you guys know better than all of them perched high upon Mt Stupid
 
It’s so much more loving and caring to let them be disfigured and permanently scarred and damaged.
Why are you and your ilk the arbiters of labeling them disfigured and damaged?

Are you also opposed to correcting cleft palates and the like? Seems hypocritical to support surgeries like those or to remove a tail or extra fingers.
 
Im curious what you know about the actual scientific community, because it doesn't sound like you know much.
The scientific community want to get published at all cost. It is not about being right, it is about getting published and being the first. The scientific community does not like to admit they were wrong.

Peer review is also somewhat of a joke. It is not the gold standard we are led tot believe it is.
I appreciate your comments Hawk. You’re right on. What’s happened as the gender dysphoria epidemic exploded on the scene is truly appalling. A social contagion transformed into a condition demanding life altering treatments. Now we’re just getting around to doing the actual science? Let’s castrate, disfigure and sterilize thousands of children and see if it works? A stain on the field of Medicine that people will discuss for decades to come.
 
Trump put an end to chemical and surgical transgender treatment for children. I have been pushing this for quite some time. I believe we will find that the suicide rate does not increase for this population even though their transgender treatment is taken away. I guess time will tell whether transgender care actually does decrease suicidality or whether I am right that it was an activist driven scam.

I can't wait to see the research that results from this executive order.
Those pushing the trans-religion aren't hoping that surgery reduces suicides ... no ... quite the opposite.
Leftism=anti-life religion
 
I'm saying getting trans surgery is like getting a tattoo underage. What you think is cool at 16-20 likely is not cool at 45.

There is a reason we don't let kids make life changing decisions.
This post intentionally or unintentionally touches the larger issue destroying the USA.


One side wants a world run by entitled-children ... the other side doesn't. People need to ask themselves why?

Pelosi says she backs lowering voting age to 16​

 
And that is why the minors don't make the decision without the aid of their parents and doctors.
But you guys know better than all of them perched high upon Mt Stupid
When doctors and parents get it wrong… and they’re not perfect no matter how much school they’ve had or how many patients they see…then what?

Who are the doctors that support this? What are their names, where do they practice?
 
Those pushing the trans-religion aren't hoping that surgery reduces suicides ... no ... quite the opposite.
Leftism=anti-life religion
Over a dozen women died after being denied miscarriage/pregnancy care last year due to Rightism's anti-life religion. Probably dozens more.

Sex change surgery isn't approved and doesn't exist for minors. The only genital surgeries are on children born with birth defects at the request of the parents. All medical care, including hormones or puberty blockers must be parent and physician approved.

Why does the Rightists religion demand government bureaucrats' approval of their children's healthcare?
 
Over a dozen women died after being denied miscarriage/pregnancy care last year due to Rightism's anti-life religion. Probably dozens more.

Sex change surgery isn't approved and doesn't exist for minors. The only genital surgeries are on children born with birth defects at the request of the parents. All medical care, including hormones or puberty blockers must be parent and physician approved.

Why does the Rightists religion demand government bureaucrats' approval of their children's healthcare?
It's good that I get under your skin.
The 20th century was all about leftism (aka Stalism/Maoism/Hitlerism/etc.) those people and their ilk were all about transforming nations into confederate slave plantations.
You're a leftist ... and on the wrong side of history.
 
Why are you and your ilk the arbiters of labeling them disfigured and damaged?

Are you also opposed to correcting cleft palates and the like? Seems hypocritical to support surgeries like those or to remove a tail or extra fingers.
First, every procedure and treatment has risks. on that I hope we can agree, the question becomes do the benefits outweigh those risks both in the short and long term.

on its face, from a macro view I’m not against those procedures, but I’m hesitant to throw full blanket support behind it.
 
Why are you and your ilk the arbiters of labeling them disfigured and damaged?

Are you also opposed to correcting cleft palates and the like? Seems hypocritical to support surgeries like those or to remove a tail or extra fingers.
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Come on, you threw a big fit when iowa made gender surgeries and puberty blockers illegal. There were still kids getting these procedures done in other states. You are a liar.
What are you implying here? I have no idea what Iowa's laws on it are. I was very upset when Nebraska was trying to get between me and my child's Doctors. He was also 18, but in Nebraska an 18 year old is still a minor.

Medical professionals should be handling medical treatment, not politicians.
 
Is a breast augmentation considered Gender affirming care for a woman? The answer is no.

You are an uneducated person who has a trans child so now you think you're an expert. You clearly are not since you don't understand the purpose of procedures.

Hormones and puberty blockers are part of the problem because they can/will sterilize people. But not all puberty blockers are bad either.

Precious puberty is treated with the same puberty blocker as gender affirming care. But it is illegal to implant the pb for gender care in Iowa while it remains legal to implant it for precocious puberty.

You have obviously bought into the lies you have been told by your daughter and the lgbt activists who act as medical providers.
So the exact same medication is OK as long as it is provided for care you think is OK but not safe if it is taken for reasons you think are wrong? Do you see why we all think you are an idiot?
Is it safe or unsafe? you can't have it both ways!

You clean the bathrooms in a hospital, you think you are an expert. Get real!
 
So the exact same medication is OK as long as it is provided for care you think is OK but not safe if it is taken for reasons you think are wrong? Do you see why we all think you are an idiot?
Is it safe or unsafe? you can't have it both ways!

You clean the bathrooms in a hospital, you think you are an expert. Get real!
Of course. It is ok to give a burn victim high doses of morphine, it is not ok to give high doses of morphine for strep throat. This happens all the time in medicine. There are standards of practice that determine the best way to treat conditions. Transgender skipped all that stuff. They went straight to just asking the kid what was wrong and then following that up with asking the kid how they should be treated. This is literally how transgender is diagnosed and treated. The WPATH is the closest thing to a standards of practice and this was written by activists without evidence to back it up.

As far as puberty blockers, they were meant to be taken by children who were starting puberty but were too young. As soon as the reach a reasonable age to start puberty then the med was stopped so the kid could start puberty normally. They were not meant to delay puberty past the normal age of puberty. They were not studied how the body would be affected by taking puberty blockers and then going directly to cross sex hormones. They are not sure exactly how the body will react if a kid starts on puberty blockers then goes to cross sex hormones without ever going through the biological sex puberty. No one knows how this will affect the person long term. These are very different ways of using the same drug.
 
Oligarchy is correct. Not in the way you think it is. The small group of people is being placed on administrative leave as I type.
This comment makes me think about Lincoln.
When he freed the slaves the intellectual predecessors of the Democrats on this board screamed, "If you care about freedom so much, what about my freedom to own other people??!!"
 
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This is because medical providers have become irresponsible with their care and were unwilling to use their own judgement. They jumped on board with an activist agenda and started performing experimental medicine on kids that causes permanent harm and disfigurement.
Or it shows that Magat's want to take away the life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness from adult citizens in our great nation. They want to bend the will of the people to their own religious agenda and assert their Puritanical values. Same way with abortion. Kansas voted 60% pro choice, it's been upheld by the courts and is considered part of our state constitution, but here we are again watching state legislators try to ban abortion.
 
There is a significant lack of followup for detransitioners. This is mentioned in many research articles including the cass report.

Many follow up studies only follow participants for a few months after surgery. But gender surgery is a life long change. They may regret transitioning at any point in their life. Transgender patients will require a lifetime of meds and treatment. I used to have a trans cancer patient who told me all the gender stuff was for vanity. He said none of it matters once real medical issues occur like getting cancer. It was far to much work to pretend you are a girl when you are fighting to stay alive.

No one really knows what the rate of detransition is because it has not been tracked reliably.
So I assume you can get behind government funded research to determine the best options and get real answers.

I love you have experience with one trans cancer patient. I have seen probably 500 some people with various forms of contact and I have met 1 person with regret.
 
I appreciate your comments Hawk. You’re right on. What’s happened as the gender dysphoria epidemic exploded on the scene is truly appalling. A social contagion transformed into a condition demanding life altering treatments. Now we’re just getting around to doing the actual science? Let’s castrate, disfigure and sterilize thousands of children and see if it works? A stain on the field of Medicine that people will discuss for decades to come.
Yes, DnD in the 80s along with Judas Priest music turned me into a Satan worshiper. All that gangsta rap music is going to turn those suburban white kids into thugs just like those blacks. It will be just like all those other social contagions. Your ilk used to beat children to get the devil out of the lefties.

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Or it shows that Magat's want to take away the life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness from adult citizens in our great nation. They want to bend the will of the people to their own religious agenda and assert their Puritanical values. Same way with abortion. Kansas voted 60% pro choice, it's been upheld by the courts and is considered part of our state constitution, but here we are again watching state legislators try to ban abortion.
You're mad you can't kill the babies, so as revenge you're going to chop off body parts? That doesn't seem like a good medical practice to sane people.
 
So I assume you can get behind government funded research to determine the best options and get real answers.

I love you have experience with one trans cancer patient. I have seen probably 500 some people with various forms of contact and I have met 1 person with regret.
I have had hundreds of trans patients as well. Many of them had very tragic pasts with a history of trauma that was never treated. Many of them were turned trans while trying to seek help for the trauma and mental health issues they have. I support real research, not online surveys by trans activists.

Aren't you a surgeon? I would not expect too many of your patients to have regret. You likely spend most of your time discussing urological issues, not mental health issues.
 
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