Recruiting complaints and NIL

[mikesright]

Exactly! And it's f***ing hypocritical, in my opinion, for coaches to imply players are low-character for pursuing that while making multiple hundreds of thousands (assistants) or millions (head coaches) per year - especially because coaches can get paid into their 80s, while players are usually done by their early 30s.

I'll also throw this out there. Remember last decade, when Wisconsin had that crazy run? We all agree the biggest difference was the run of running backs they had (Melvin Gordon, etc), right? I mean, their WRs were also a bit better, but I've already talked about that.

Anyway, imagine we have a string of guys like that in the current era. Think about how, even if running backs make the pros, even if they're the now-rare 1st or 2nd round guy, their careers (especially as starters) are over in a few years and they're treated as disposable in the NFL.

Given all that, if we had a Melvin Gordon type and Alabama offered him $1 million or $2 million per year for his true Sophomore and Junior seasons, and we're going to give him the same $2,000-$3,000 per month as the backup forward on the women's basketball team, why the hell wouldn't he do it, knowing he's only going to have 3-5 years as an NFL starter (if he's lucky)?

Also, I think I saw that our revenue last year was $128 million, of which "only" $57 million was from the Big Ten's media rights deal. So, $71 million from merchandising, ticket sales and donors. And the new media rights deal is expected to jump the payout from the Big Ten to near $100 million per team, per year.

So, I see a gain of $40 million+ in the media deal in a couple years and I see other programs running on far less than what we'll get from media rights alone and you *cannot* tell me we won't be able to afford to redirect some of that donor money to set aside $10-$20 million to pay players to do commercials or talk at dinners or whatever. And that's before considering all the crowd funding possibilities (I was never going to donate to the athletic department; I'm donating to collectives). So, I don't want to hear that Iowa can't afford to compete in this arena. If we don't do it, it's because we choose not to.

The $128 million figure is the budget for FY22, not the revenue figure. Iowa figures to be in the $150-$175 million range for FY22 given the games for football have already basically sold out and mbb/wbb are expected to have a lot of success too. I would expect for FY23 that the media deal pushes revenue past $200 million fairly easily.

 

[IsaacHarrison]

Exactly! And it's f***ing hypocritical, in my opinion, for coaches to imply players are low-character for pursuing that while making multiple hundreds of thousands (assistants) or millions (head coaches) per year - especially because coaches can get paid into their 80s, while players are usually done by their early 30s.

I'll also throw this out there. Remember last decade, when Wisconsin had that crazy run? We all agree the biggest difference was the run of running backs they had (Melvin Gordon, etc), right? I mean, their WRs were also a bit better, but I've already talked about that.

Anyway, imagine we have a string of guys like that in the current era. Think about how, even if running backs make the pros, even if they're the now-rare 1st or 2nd round guy, their careers (especially as starters) are over in a few years and they're treated as disposable in the NFL.

Given all that, if we had a Melvin Gordon type and Alabama offered him $1 million or $2 million per year for his true Sophomore and Junior seasons, and we're going to give him the same $2,000-$3,000 per month as the backup forward on the women's basketball team, why the hell wouldn't he do it, knowing he's only going to have 3-5 years as an NFL starter (if he's lucky)?

Also, I think I saw that our revenue last year was $128 million, of which "only" $57 million was from the Big Ten's media rights deal. So, $71 million from merchandising, ticket sales and donors. And the new media rights deal is expected to jump the payout from the Big Ten to near $100 million per team, per year.

So, I see a gain of $40 million+ in the media deal in a couple years and I see other programs running on far less than what we'll get from media rights alone and you *cannot* tell me we won't be able to afford to redirect some of that donor money to set aside $10-$20 million to pay players to do commercials or talk at dinners or whatever. And that's before considering all the crowd funding possibilities (I was never going to donate to the athletic department; I'm donating to collectives). So, I don't want to hear that Iowa can't afford to compete in this arena. If we don't do it, it's because we choose not to.

100%. How many time did KF and Neil Cornrich leverage Iowa for money with threats of moving on? Yet if a player wants the most money he isn't meant for his system?

 

[ZachJump]

We are talking about athletes chief.
Nil was not made for academics Derp

I am sill not sure why you have an issue with the money coming from the University for grades.

That is all they are allowed to do officially. 5,980 is what has been allowed per year...and basically every program that can afford it is doing it now.

You might not care about education...but the schools have been given an avenue where they can reward academics.

If Iowa was to not do that....then they would actually be behind every school that is doing that.

 

[DogBoyRy]

So you're saying players don't get paid extra for good grades? Seems you're clueless

Saying that is nothing to do with nil.
Get a clue.

 

[nbanflfactory]

Saying that is nothing to do with nil.
Get a clue.

It's one example of the stupidityof how Iowa is using money. Sorry if you're unable to comprehend that

 

[nbanflfactory]

I am sill not sure why you have an issue with the money coming from the University for grades.

That is all they are allowed to do officially. 5,980 is what has been allowed per year...and basically every program that can afford it is doing it now.

You might not care about education...but the schools have been given an avenue where they can reward academics.

If Iowa was to not do that....then they would actually be behind every school that is doing that.

So they doing that at bama and OSU etc? Links??

I bet NOT
Unless "good grades" is simply meeting eligibility standards

 

[DavidHawk324]

Good idea to steal @Tx_Hawk

 

[obfuscating]

Our response to NIL was hiring two white bozos and self-proclaimed "marketing experts" to run an NIL collective that lacks any sort of originality and creativity. The IC NIL Club is one of the worst marketing rollouts I've seen at the D1 level, just god-awful scripted Twitter videos with every player saying the same thing.

You'd think after our recent racial tensions within the program, the University would strive to bring in a diverse set of people to help lead these young men. It's disappointing but not surprising.

Why not go get the most qualified person vs checking a "D and I" box?

 

[ZachJump]

So they doing that at bama and OSU etc? Links??

I bet NOT
Unless "good grades" is simply meeting eligibility standards

Using google is not that difficult. Do you need help tying your shows also?

Each school, $5,980 - the max each school can do.

Report: Ohio State To Provide Academic Bonuses To Student-Athletes

Starting this fall, student-athletes will receive two $1,495 checks each semester, totaling $5,980 per year.

www.si.com

Nick Saban Confirms Alabama Players Are Getting Academic Bonus

On Wednesday, ESPN's Dan Murphy published a report about the academic bonus payments allowed by the 2021 U.S. Supreme Court decision in the NCAA v. Alston

thespun.com

 

[IsaacHarrison]

Using google is not that difficult. Do you need help tying your shows also?

Each school, $5,980 - the max each school can do.

Report: Ohio State To Provide Academic Bonuses To Student-Athletes

Starting this fall, student-athletes will receive two $1,495 checks each semester, totaling $5,980 per year.

www.si.com

Nick Saban Confirms Alabama Players Are Getting Academic Bonus

On Wednesday, ESPN's Dan Murphy published a report about the academic bonus payments allowed by the 2021 U.S. Supreme Court decision in the NCAA v. Alston

thespun.com

How do you tie shows?

 

[ZachJump]

How do you tie shows?

I spin together two different shows - ie Chicago PD and Chicago Fire...and create one show using both sets of characters



oops

 

[Tx_Hawk]

I'm aware of both, and both are run by middle aged white men.

If you can't see the importance of having POC in positions that lead young men and help introduce them to marketing and business opportunities, no point in arguing.

truehawkfan45--
Should I have looked in the mirror and said "Man, you're too white to volunteer, donate $100,000, and countless hours to try to help out the University of Iowa Athletics Dept along with countless charities and non-profits in Iowa?"

The U of I didn't pick me. I just chose to volunteer.

If you would like to help us out, please let me know. Or just go to Iowaswarm.com and contribute!

Go Hawks!

 

[obfuscating]

And the rich get richer...

The Next Phase of NIL: Alabama, Fanatics Announce Game-Changing Partnership

First-ever team store inside Bryant-Denny Stadium will feature NIL activation area for Alabama student-athletes and co-branded NIL merchandise from Nike, Fanatics, and Topps.

www.si.com

 

[obfuscating]

truehawkfan45--
Should I have looked in the mirror and said "Man, you're too white to volunteer, donate $100,000, and countless hours to try to help out the University of Iowa Athletics Dept along with countless charities and non-profits in Iowa?"

The U of I didn't pick me. I just chose to volunteer.

If you would like to help us out, please let me know. Or just go to Iowaswarm.com and contribute!

Go Hawks!

Does this fund go to get rid of the OC? If so i may actually contribute.

 

[ZachJump]

And the rich get richer...

The Next Phase of NIL: Alabama, Fanatics Announce Game-Changing Partnership

First-ever team store inside Bryant-Denny Stadium will feature NIL activation area for Alabama student-athletes and co-branded NIL merchandise from Nike, Fanatics, and Topps.

www.si.com

Alot of NFT in that arrangement. Personally I will never get NFTs, but they are an amazing way to launder money or pay off a recruit since there value can be anything anyone wants it to be.

 

[Tx_Hawk]

Does this fund go to get rid of the OC? If so i may actually contribute.

I'm sorry. What does OC mean? Some of the freshmen football players signed up with an outfit on the East Coast named Yoke that tried to give them a platform for fans to shuttle them money, if that is what you are referring to.

I am not involved with that project at all. I'm just focused on doing what we are doing, which is to help players make money on NIL, give fans like you more access to what is going on, and help the community in the process.

 

[dbrocket]

100%. How many time did KF and Neil Cornrich leverage Iowa for money with threats of moving on? Yet if a player wants the most money he isn't meant for his system?

Exactly. If they want to teach young men that there's money isn't the most important thing in life, I'm on board. It's not. And if you chase dollars too hard, you become a bad person.

But if it's just a question of playing football here or there, and one of them sets you up for financial security in a heartless culture that will let you die on the street? If there's no moral component to that decision? You're not a bad person for making the obvious choice.

 

[dbrocket]

The $128 million figure is the budget for FY22, not the revenue figure. Iowa figures to be in the $150-$175 million range for FY22 given the games for football have already basically sold out and mbb/wbb are expected to have a lot of success too. I would expect for FY23 that the media deal pushes revenue past $200 million fairly easily.

Even better! Lol.

But, yeah, if we wanted to pay guys, we can afford it. I really don't want to hear otherwise without a very specific breakdown of why not.

 

[ZachJump]

But, yeah, if we wanted to pay guys, we can afford it. I really don't want to hear otherwise without a very specific breakdown of why not.

People are working on it. A very specific reason is that it is going to take a lot of donations to get a good amount of money.

 

[obfuscating]

I'm sorry. What does OC mean? Some of the freshmen football players signed up with an outfit on the East Coast named Yoke that tried to give them a platform for fans to shuttle them money, if that is what you are referring to.

I am not involved with that project at all. I'm just focused on doing what we are doing, which is to help players make money on NIL, give fans like you more access to what is going on, and help the community in the process.

Offensive coordinator.

 

[obfuscating]

Alot of NFT in that arrangement. Personally I will never get NFTs, but they are an amazing way to launder money or pay off a recruit since there value can be anything anyone wants it to be.

And Saban claims to be "concerned about parity in college football". He's a snake, like Urban.

 

[nbanflfactory]

Using google is not that difficult. Do you need help tying your shows also?

Each school, $5,980 - the max each school can do.

Report: Ohio State To Provide Academic Bonuses To Student-Athletes

Starting this fall, student-athletes will receive two $1,495 checks each semester, totaling $5,980 per year.

www.si.com

Nick Saban Confirms Alabama Players Are Getting Academic Bonus

On Wednesday, ESPN's Dan Murphy published a report about the academic bonus payments allowed by the 2021 U.S. Supreme Court decision in the NCAA v. Alston

thespun.com

Thx. What does each school consider good grades?

 

[ZachJump]

Thx. What does each school consider good grades?

No idea - not going to look it up. Sure it not any different than Iowa and just stay eligible. Iowa is backloading their payments - not sure what other schools are doing.

Also keep in mind - they number (5980) is not arbitrary - it is what the full scholarship kids are already get for being on an athletic scholarship. So now they can get up to $11,960 per year above their scholarship.

Also - none of this is NIL. NIL is something entirely different.

 

[nbanflfactory]

No idea - not going to look it up. Sure it not any different than Iowa and just stay eligible. Iowa is backloading their payments - not sure what other schools are doing.

Also keep in mind - they number (5980) is not arbitrary - it is what the full scholarship kids are already get for being on an athletic scholarship. So now they can get up to $11,960 per year above their scholarship.

Also - none of this is NIL. NIL is something entirely different.

Imo everything is basically nil these days. Anything schools do that can allow donors to put more money into nil will create more nil funds. And it might as well be considered nil money

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

I still think NIL is going to be reformed, but how soon it will happen I have no idea. What some of the alumni donors are doing now is nothing short of pay to play which was not the intent of the SCOTUS ruling and NIL money should not be allowed to essentially buy recruits year after year. If it's allowed to be that, then just kiss goodbye college football as we know it and that will be a real shame.