Regression of Bohannon's Sweet Shot

[IowasLaw]

Bohannon will go down in the record books as an all-time Hawk great. Over the past couple of years, he's made a point of maximizing his media exposure being outspoken and drawing attention to himself off the court. But on the court, I have to wonder how seriously he took his off season preparation and how much effort he's giving on the court.

Thus far this year, he's shooting just 22% from the field and 21% from 3, and is 10th on the team in scoring with less than 4 points per game. By comparison, back in 2017, he shot 42% from the field and 43% from 3 and was the offensive star of the team. I know it's early, but 22% from the field and a serious liability on defense wouldn't warrant starting for Iowa State's weak roster, let alone the #3 team in the nation with starter caliber guys like Toussaint, Nunge, and McCaffery hungry for playing time.

I get that he had hip surgery last November, but that was 12 months ago. His assists and steals numbers are comparable to previous years, and his rebound numbers are actually up. But what happened to his sweet shot?

 

[2432Hawk]

Shooters need to shoot. Right now i don't see him really getting shots in the flow, and he's running the team. He's kind of forced some shots in transition that haven't been good shots. If teams don't double Luka Jordan isn't going to get many good looks. Right now we've not had to see much passing out of doubles and move it move it to the open shooter for high percentage looks. That likely will change when teams start to try to get the ball out of Luka's hands in the post.

None of the guards have really gotten the shots that they are going to get starting on Tuesday.

Let's see how it goes playing against better competition where Garza isn't going to be able to score at will virtually the entire time he's on the floor.

 

[Georgia_Hawk]

We're talking 14 shots here. Very limited credibility

 

[unoHawkeye]

I might catch some flak for this opinion, but I don’t think Jordan has been trying particularly hard so far this year. He’s not looking for his shot on offense, and isn’t giving much effort defensively. But the season is a marathon, and I would rather conserve energy by beating teams like Western Illinois by 40 instead of 60 if it’ll keep the team fresh later in the season.

Bohannon’s a winner. All Big Ten Freshman. Honorable Mention as a sophomore. Third Team as a junior. You know he’ll bring it and show up when he needs to, and that starts next Tuesday

 

[24 so far]

I might catch some flak for this opinion, but I don’t think Jordan has been trying particularly hard so far this year. He’s not looking for his shot on offense, and isn’t giving much effort defensively. But the season is a marathon, and I would rather conserve energy by beating teams like Western Illinois by 40 instead of 60 if it’ll keep the team fresh later in the season.

Bohannon’s a winner. All Big Ten Freshman. Honorable Mention as a sophomore. Third Team as a junior. You know he’ll bring it and show up when he needs to, and that starts next Tuesday

Agree on all counts. He puts his thoughts out there for all the world to see, and then he.............backs it up on the court when it matters.

 

[ObeseMuffins]

Need to see more urgency out of him and it better start Tuesday. You only get so many times on the Carver court.

 

[Chishawk1425]

Need to see more urgency out of him and it better start Tuesday. You only get so many times on the Carver court.

I'm with ya on this take. We shall see, hard to flip it on and off. Hopefully he can.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

If I recall he's a slow starter to the seasons.
Let's hope

 

[DanHawkPella]

They track shooting in practice, so as long as he's back to his old practice shooting percentage it will come in games. I agree he hasn't really been able to get volume to get his legs under him yet.

There are scenarios where his form might be slightly different, or his lift, and it could mean his practice percentage (shooting drills) might show he's at 50% from 3 rather than 60% in those drils. If that is the case, then maybe the coaches would know something we don't know.

At this point I'm assuming he's still able to fill it during drills in practice like he used to, until I see more.

 

[tippet1]

If shooters do not get a fair amount of shots in games on a regular basis, they are not going to shoot at a high percentage. Right now the offense is being run through Garza, which it should, but Garza also has to be willing to give it up and not force shots. Which has always been one the concerns I have with Garza.

 

[hexumhawk]

He will be fine. Most of his misses have been right there minus one really bad shot this year. It will come...keep shooting.

 

[CleteyColgate]

Bohannon will go down in the record books as an all-time Hawk great. Over the past couple of years, he's made a point of maximizing his media exposure being outspoken and drawing attention to himself off the court. But on the court, I have to wonder how seriously he took his off season preparation and how much effort he's giving on the court.

Thus far this year, he's shooting just 22% from the field and 21% from 3, and is 10th on the team in scoring with less than 4 points per game. By comparison, back in 2017, he shot 42% from the field and 43% from 3 and was the offensive star of the team. I know it's early, but 22% from the field and a serious liability on defense wouldn't warrant starting for Iowa State's weak roster, let alone the #3 team in the nation with starter caliber guys like Toussaint, Nunge, and McCaffery hungry for playing time.

I get that he had hip surgery last November, but that was 12 months ago. His assists and steals numbers are comparable to previous years, and his rebound numbers are actually up. But what happened to his sweet shot?

Should we pitch in and get shooting lessons for the kid?

 

[kcgolfer]

Of all the things I worry about, JBO’s shooting is near the bottom of the list. Until Garza starts drawing double and triple teams, he really has no need to shoot much.

 

[StarHawk]

We'll find out real soon if the Iowa starting guards can step up and knock down some shots when they play NC who will be having bigger and better athletes around Garza than so far.

Last night look like a bit of laziness from Bohannon....and not sure why it's ok to just play hard in certain games or situations. I know Conner won't do much in the scoring column...nor defense column either. I sure hope Fran at some point decides that Conner is not starting material...and puts Joe T. there instead. Need a guy out there that has some quickness and energy.

Jack looked decent last night...seemed to be giving all effort...after what he's been through...that's something.

 

[longliveCS40]

The guy had hip replacement surgeries. It is possible his game will never be the same. If anyone has the determination and moxie to get it done, though, it's JBo.

 

[EKHawk]

We're talking 14 shots here. Very limited credibility

This. Considering Iowa used 15 players last night and Jordan only played 19 minutes, I think Fran might be preparing for if/when Covid hits some of the starters. Besides the kid plays better when the pressure is on. The last 3 games have been blow outs.

 

[KcTo]

JoBo has 14FGA and 1024 in his career. I might wait on judging his shooting skills based on 0.01% of the total.

in a bad example its,like judging the outcome of a football game in the 1st 30 seconds....

its a bit early...

 

[jaffarosenfels]

JBo has been absolutely fantastic at getting Garza the ball.

 

[hawktrooper1]

Had OP broken down J-Bo’s mechanics and noted some unsettling issues with his stance, ball positioning, release point or something else that physically and mechanically is different pre- and post-surgery, I would give this some credence.
IMO his shot looks smooth as ever and I’ve been surprised when 5-6 of his 3-ball misses didn’t go in, which indicates there is no issue. Small sample size and even Steph Curry has had a few bad 14-shot stretches. This isn’t even a mole hill, let alone a mountain IMO.

 

[HawkLogic]

He will be fine. Most of his misses have been right there minus one really bad shot this year. It will come...keep shooting.

yes, usually JBo's 3ball shots usually around the rim. Only one of his 3balls has been way off the mark. Fredrick shot is also nearly always close.

You watch JoeW and Connor...they aren't as consistent. Garza has been on fire from 3pt line, but he's superman.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Not everyone can get jacked up to play nobody in front of no fans.

 

[Herky T Hawk]

I wonder if he mentally is planning on coming back next season. I’m guessing that his family could pay for one more year of college if there isn’t a scholarship available since they basically didn’t pay for any college for all four of their kids.

He doesn’t seem to be playing with the heart of a senior that could have his career end at any time with a COVID shutdown. He’s passing the ball well, but still showing a lack of caring on defense.

 

[Fran_Man]

I’m not worried about JBo. When actual good teams take away Garza they will pay and JBo will make big shots.

 

[KcTo]

I’m not worried about JBo. When actual good teams take away Garza they will pay and JBo will make big shots.

When game is on the line late and close, JoBo will make FTs...

 

[2bagger22]

OP’s favorite word is regression, though usually saved for the football board.

 

[chuck285]

It looks like he spent the summer with JW and at his training camp. Come on, I'm just kidding. I love that kid.
How many free throws has he attempted and what is streak up too?

 

[blockm2]

Spike Albrecht was a career 41% 3 pt shooter over his first 3 seasons and then struggled to 25% combined over his last 2 partial seasons following hip injury and surgeries. It was over a smaller sample, but part of that was because he just couldn't run and cut like he used to.

 

[ThamesHawk]

I wonder if he mentally is planning on coming back next season. I’m guessing that his family could pay for one more year of college if there isn’t a scholarship available since they basically didn’t pay for any college for all four of their kids.

He doesn’t seem to be playing with the heart of a senior that could have his career end at any time with a COVID shutdown. He’s passing the ball well, but still showing a lack of caring on defense.

This nails it. It's really just baffling. And I refuse to believe it's at all surgery related.

 

[Fran_Man]

This nails it. It's really just baffling. And I refuse to believe it's at all surgery related.

He had a quote that caught my attention before the season started.


With that said I still think he’s fine. Small sample size.

 

[anon_qczsdwtnv6esw]

I think the one benefit this year is that Fran doesn't have to keep him on the court for 75% of the game like in previous years. His scoring is no longer a focal point of the team.....its more of an added bonus. I understand the focus has been to get the ball to Garza in these first 3 games but he still seems to not be able to shake the defense and get an open shot, unless its from 3 feet behind the 3 point line.

 

[SicIturAdAstra]

Spike Albrecht was a career 41% 3 pt shooter over his first 3 seasons and then struggled to 25% combined over his last 2 partial seasons following hip injury and surgeries. It was over a smaller sample, but part of that was because he just couldn't run and cut like he used to.

How long was Bohannon's hip injured before he had surgery? In his first two years he's about a 42% three-point shooter, which is excellent obviously. In the 2+ years since, dealing with injury, surgery, post-surgery (and, not insignificantly, dealing with the reality that his role offensively has effectively diminished significantly with the rise of Garza and additions of JW and CF), he's 36%. Now, that's still considered a decent to "good" shooter, but statistically that's not an elite number. And statistically, he hasn't really been "elite" for a couple years now (went from 43% as a soph to 38% as a junior in 2018-19).

 

[RocknRollface]

Need to see more urgency out of him and it better start Tuesday. You only get so many times on the Carver court.

I usually find his defensive effort to be a joke but I'm not sure how anyone could have had urgency in those first 3 games.

Garza is outscoring the other team by himself in the first half. It's got to be rather boring for everyone else.

 

[RocknRollface]

If shooters do not get a fair amount of shots in games on a regular basis, they are not going to shoot at a high percentage. Right now the offense is being run through Garza, which it should, but Garza also has to be willing to give it up and not force shots. Which has always been one the concerns I have with Garza.

Agreed, In order for Iowa to be great this year Luka has to look forward to being a passer.

Without that this teams ceiling is just "good".

Im not sure hes wired that way.

 

[Hawksfor3]

I’m not worried about JBo. When actual good teams take away Garza they will pay and JBo will make big shots.

Agree. When it comes down to crunch time, I want JBo to have the ball in his hands.

 

[kceasthawk]

We'll find out real soon if the Iowa starting guards can step up and knock down some shots when they play NC who will be having bigger and better athletes around Garza than so far.

Last night look like a bit of laziness from Bohannon....and not sure why it's ok to just play hard in certain games or situations. I know Conner won't do much in the scoring column...nor defense column either. I sure hope Fran at some point decides that Conner is not starting material...and puts Joe T. there instead. Need a guy out there that has some quickness and energy.

Jack looked decent last night...seemed to be giving all effort...after what he's been through...that's something.

So Connor leads the nation last year in assist to TO ratio and does countless things not in the stats but he's not starting material? Maybe when Joe T stops being a turnover machine he'll play more. Frankly he better keep improving or he's going to have Ulis barking at his heels....

 

[kceasthawk]

This. Considering Iowa used 15 players last night and Jordan only played 19 minutes, I think Fran might be preparing for if/when Covid hits some of the starters. Besides the kid plays better when the pressure is on. The last 3 games have been blow outs.

I wonder about this. Didn't at least 7 Iowa players already have the virus, including JBO who was pretty open about it? Hopefully this will help them have some level of immunity for now anyway....

 

[Hawks4Life86]

So Connor leads the nation last year in assist to TO ratio and does countless things not in the stats but he's not starting material? Maybe when Joe T stops being a turnover machine he'll play more. Frankly he better keep improving or he's going to have Ulis barking at his heels....

What an awful take in regards to JoeT. If you’re going to give credit to Connor for things that don’t show up in the stat sheet, then why not for JoeT? He provides a speed element that no other player has and is our best perimeter defender. If anybody needs to show improvement, it is JorBo. He’s only hit 1 more 3 than JoeT in 10 more attempts and has been giving lackluster effort on D.

 

[Fran_Man]

What an awful take in regards to JoeT. If you’re going to give credit to Connor for things that don’t show up in the stat sheet, then why not for JoeT? He provides a speed element that no other player has and is our best perimeter defender. If anybody needs to show improvement, it is JorBo. He’s only hit 1 more 3 than JoeT in 10 more attempts and has been giving lackluster effort on D.

If you think Joe T is our best perimeter defender it shows how little you know about basketball. Joe T is often lost on his responsibilities on that end of the floor. And I’m not knocking Joe T just letting you know you don’t know shit.

 

[KcTo]

If you think Joe T is our best perimeter defender it shows how little you know about basketball. Joe T is often lost on his responsibilities on that end of the floor. And I’m not knocking Joe T just letting you know you don’t know shit.

I totally agree with this, JoeT is also the most undisciplined defender frequently chasing the ball for a steal which is exposed as the opposition rotates the ball from his impromptu double team to a wide open shooter.

 

[Ronman]

OK. Now we've got post denigrating our PG, our backup PG and our SG. Can't wait for the one that takes Garza to task for not scoring 40 every game. Doesn't he care? Has he lost it?