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Regression of Bohannon's Sweet Shot

OK. Now we've got post denigrating our PG, our backup PG and our SG. Can't wait for the one that takes Garza to task for not scoring 40 every game. Doesn't he care? Has he lost it?
I really like Joe T. Im just pointing out he’s not our best defender. So don’t mix me up with that.
 
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Bohannon will go down in the record books as an all-time Hawk great. Over the past couple of years, he's made a point of maximizing his media exposure being outspoken and drawing attention to himself off the court. But on the court, I have to wonder how seriously he took his off season preparation and how much effort he's giving on the court.

Thus far this year, he's shooting just 22% from the field and 21% from 3, and is 10th on the team in scoring with less than 4 points per game. By comparison, back in 2017, he shot 42% from the field and 43% from 3 and was the offensive star of the team. I know it's early, but 22% from the field and a serious liability on defense wouldn't warrant starting for Iowa State's weak roster, let alone the #3 team in the nation with starter caliber guys like Toussaint, Nunge, and McCaffery hungry for playing time.

I get that he had hip surgery last November, but that was 12 months ago. His assists and steals numbers are comparable to previous years, and his rebound numbers are actually up. But what happened to his sweet shot?
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Bohannon will go down in the record books as an all-time Hawk great. Over the past couple of years, he's made a point of maximizing his media exposure being outspoken and drawing attention to himself off the court. But on the court, I have to wonder how seriously he took his off season preparation and how much effort he's giving on the court.

Thus far this year, he's shooting just 22% from the field and 21% from 3, and is 10th on the team in scoring with less than 4 points per game. By comparison, back in 2017, he shot 42% from the field and 43% from 3 and was the offensive star of the team. I know it's early, but 22% from the field and a serious liability on defense wouldn't warrant starting for Iowa State's weak roster, let alone the #3 team in the nation with starter caliber guys like Toussaint, Nunge, and McCaffery hungry for playing time.

I get that he had hip surgery last November, but that was 12 months ago. His assists and steals numbers are comparable to previous years, and his rebound numbers are actually up. But what happened to his sweet shot?
another knucklehead!!!!
 
Bohannon will go down in the record books as an all-time Hawk great. Over the past couple of years, he's made a point of maximizing his media exposure being outspoken and drawing attention to himself off the court. But on the court, I have to wonder how seriously he took his off season preparation and how much effort he's giving on the court.

Thus far this year, he's shooting just 22% from the field and 21% from 3, and is 10th on the team in scoring with less than 4 points per game. By comparison, back in 2017, he shot 42% from the field and 43% from 3 and was the offensive star of the team. I know it's early, but 22% from the field and a serious liability on defense wouldn't warrant starting for Iowa State's weak roster, let alone the #3 team in the nation with starter caliber guys like Toussaint, Nunge, and McCaffery hungry for playing time.

I get that he had hip surgery last November, but that was 12 months ago. His assists and steals numbers are comparable to previous years, and his rebound numbers are actually up. But what happened to his sweet shot?
You are so insightful

You should really create more threads giving us your random thoughts
 
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Bohannon will go down in the record books as an all-time Hawk great. Over the past couple of years, he's made a point of maximizing his media exposure being outspoken and drawing attention to himself off the court. But on the court, I have to wonder how seriously he took his off season preparation and how much effort he's giving on the court.

Thus far this year, he's shooting just 22% from the field and 21% from 3, and is 10th on the team in scoring with less than 4 points per game. By comparison, back in 2017, he shot 42% from the field and 43% from 3 and was the offensive star of the team. I know it's early, but 22% from the field and a serious liability on defense wouldn't warrant starting for Iowa State's weak roster, let alone the #3 team in the nation with starter caliber guys like Toussaint, Nunge, and McCaffery hungry for playing time.

I get that he had hip surgery last November, but that was 12 months ago. His assists and steals numbers are comparable to previous years, and his rebound numbers are actually up. But what happened to his sweet shot?
You are so insightful

You should really create more threads giving us your random thoughts
 
It's hilarious to see a bunch of hindsight warriors come out in support of Bohannan...not the day this thread was posted and Bohannan was struggling mightily after 3 awful games...but a week later after he has his best game in 2 years. Guys with major stones who went out on a limb like Gabe, TD, Herkey, Mick, etc. who make sports bets the day after the games are played and brag about it.

I'm happier than anyone that Bohannan had a big game against North Carolina. But let's not let facts get in the way. Even with his "great game," his field goal percentage increased to just 34%. That's ranks 10th on the team, behind Toussaint & the McCaffery boys.

Until Jordan starts hitting shots at a higher clip, it remains a statistical fact that his formerly sweet shot has indeed regressed...like Spencer Petras is not suddenly a star because he played 2 good quarters out of 7 games.



You are so insightful

You should really create more threads giving us your random thoughts
 
Bohannon is the recipient, and rightfully so, of a lot of late shot clock shots where the offense didn’t produce a good look so they let Jobo chuck because that’s a better look than nothing.

After hitting 7 threes in a game, i wouldn’t suggest doubling down on a regression. He closed out a top 20 team and always seemed to hit the big shot. Also creates so much goddamn space for everyone else. He might be our second most important player considering his ability to close games.
 
It's hilarious to see a bunch of hindsight warriors come out in support of Bohannan...not the day this thread was posted and Bohannan was struggling mightily after 3 awful games...but a week later after he has his best game in 2 years. Guys with major stones who went out on a limb like Gabe, TD, Herkey, Mick, etc. who make sports bets the day after the games are played and brag about it.

I'm happier than anyone that Bohannan had a big game against North Carolina. But let's not let facts get in the way. Even with his "great game," his field goal percentage increased to just 34%. That's ranks 10th on the team, behind Toussaint & the McCaffery boys.

Until Jordan starts hitting shots at a higher clip, it remains a statistical fact that his formerly sweet shot has indeed regressed...like Spencer Petras is not suddenly a star because he played 2 good quarters out of 7 games.
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It's hilarious to see a bunch of hindsight warriors come out in support of Bohannan...not the day this thread was posted and Bohannan was struggling mightily after 3 awful games...but a week later after he has his best game in 2 years. Guys with major stones who went out on a limb like Gabe, TD, Herkey, Mick, etc. who make sports bets the day after the games are played and brag about it.

I'm happier than anyone that Bohannan had a big game against North Carolina. But let's not let facts get in the way. Even with his "great game," his field goal percentage increased to just 34%. That's ranks 10th on the team, behind Toussaint & the McCaffery boys.

Until Jordan starts hitting shots at a higher clip, it remains a statistical fact that his formerly sweet shot has indeed regressed...like Spencer Petras is not suddenly a star because he played 2 good quarters out of 7 games.
I have no issues with your random thoughts, in this particular case I just think you're wrong, mostly because those stats have to be taken into context.

And IMO as I believe I've stated either here or other threads, is that Jordan Bohannon will make his 3's at a higher % " when it matters". I'd take that even further and suggest he would be even more focused with a crowd to watch him do "his thing". His thing is burying 3's in clutch situations and making tons of free throws to send teams bye-bye with an L.

Nobody in College Basketball I would rather have at those times than Jordan Bohannon. The kid is $ when it matters.
 
I think that the issue is sample size. If you want to pick a sample size of 3 or 4 consecutive games, you can find a stretch in each of Bohannon's seasons where he was under 30% from 3. Freshman year, three game stretch where he went 3/13 from 3 (23%). Sophomore year, three game stretch where he went 3/14 from 3 (21%). Junior year, first 5 games of the year he goes 5/19 from 3 (26%). Later in the season, three game stretch where he goes 5/22 from 3 (23%). Last year, worst 3 game stretch he goes 4/15 from 3 (27%).
 
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Bohannon will get better as the season moves along. They all will, actually. The only question is if his hips hold up.
 
It's hilarious to see a bunch of hindsight warriors come out in support of Bohannan...not the day this thread was posted and Bohannan was struggling mightily after 3 awful games...but a week later after he has his best game in 2 years. Guys with major stones who went out on a limb like Gabe, TD, Herkey, Mick, etc. who make sports bets the day after the games are played and brag about it.

I'm happier than anyone that Bohannan had a big game against North Carolina. But let's not let facts get in the way. Even with his "great game," his field goal percentage increased to just 34%. That's ranks 10th on the team, behind Toussaint & the McCaffery boys.

Until Jordan starts hitting shots at a higher clip, it remains a statistical fact that his formerly sweet shot has indeed regressed...like Spencer Petras is not suddenly a star because he played 2 good quarters out of 7 games.

No hindsight required to know you are a giant douche. Your posts are always critical of players and coaches. Semantics and skewed stats aren't going to convince anyone. Stop being a negative nellie or find a new team.
 
Bohannan is now 13th on the team in field goal percentage after shooting 1-9 against Iowa State and 2-5 against NIU. So far, plenty of others have stepped up...but 4 years ago this guy was a lights out shooter. Hope he picks it up.
 
Bohannan is now 13th on the team in field goal percentage after shooting 1-9 against Iowa State and 2-5 against NIU. So far, plenty of others have stepped up...but 4 years ago this guy was a lights out shooter. Hope he picks it up.
Umm yeah but he was damn near 50% vs UNC. One could argue he shows up in the big games . That’s all I care about . He doesn’t need to be THE MAN every single night. When the games get bigger the better he gets.
 
“Big Game” Bohannan, who hasn’t even come close on any of his 3s today, just had one of the worst games of his career against the #1 team in the country.

Sure, he’s 13th on the team in shooting percentage and can’t crack 30%from the field, but his defense is an absolute embarrassment. The first half, Gonzaga’s 3 point ace was left WIDE open shot after shot because Bohannan isnt athletic enough or doesn’t care enough to contest his shot.

At least he told every media outlet who would listen how good he is. That has to count for something when you’re 0-9 from 3 in the biggest game of your life, right?

Had OP broken down J-Bo’s mechanics and noted some unsettling issues with his stance, ball positioning, release point or something else that physically and mechanically is different pre- and post-surgery, I would give this some credence.
IMO his shot looks smooth as ever and I’ve been surprised when 5-6 of his 3-ball misses didn’t go in, which indicates there is no issue. Small sample size and even Steph Curry has had a few bad 14-shot stretches. This isn’t even a mole hill, let alone a mountain IMO.
 
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I can break down JBOs shot. Easy. He's rushing his catch-and-shoots. Seems to be working. He's not making many, but he's not getting any blocked.
 
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You're right they weren't replacements. But they did shave off bone and reconfigure ligaments. Major surgery on both hips and it seems to be showing in his play.
yea wasn’t calling you out just couldn’t imagine hip replacement at his age and you may be right.... but he shot pretty well this year in other games.... we just didn’t shoot well as a team today
 
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yea wasn’t calling you out just couldn’t imagine hip replacement at his age and you may be right.... but he shot pretty well this year in other games.... we just didn’t shoot well as a team today

I didn't take it that way. I legit thought it was replacements. I think his shooting will be fine. It's his lack of mobility and quickness on defense and running the point that's a killer.

He wasn't the fleetist of foot before. Now he looks downright slow and it's a huge liability.
 
“Big Game” Bohannan, who hasn’t even come close on any of his 3s today, just had one of the worst games of his career against the #1 team in the country.

Sure, he’s 13th on the team in shooting percentage and can’t crack 30%from the field, but his defense is an absolute embarrassment. The first half, Gonzaga’s 3 point ace was left WIDE open shot after shot because Bohannan isnt athletic enough or doesn’t care enough to contest his shot.

At least he told every media outlet who would listen how good he is. That has to count for something when you’re 0-9 from 3 in the biggest game of your life, right?
At least be accurate in who was guarding the guy who was taking the 3's. Bohannon was not responsible for guarding any of the guys taking the 3's in the first half. 5 were JW and one of those was a scramble situation, 2 were JT, 1 each for CJ, Pat and Nunge. The one on Nunge was a major walk that wasn't called. In the second half, 2 were on CJ and one was on Connor. Bohannon was not involved in any of the 3's today.
 
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They track shooting in practice, so as long as he's back to his old practice shooting percentage it will come in games. I agree he hasn't really been able to get volume to get his legs under him yet.

There are scenarios where his form might be slightly different, or his lift, and it could mean his practice percentage (shooting drills) might show he's at 50% from 3 rather than 60% in those drils. If that is the case, then maybe the coaches would know something we don't know.

At this point I'm assuming he's still able to fill it during drills in practice like he used to, until I see more.
This thinking also led to josh oglesby playing. Worst shooting “great shooter” ever.
 
Bohannon will go down in the record books as an all-time Hawk great. Over the past couple of years, he's made a point of maximizing his media exposure being outspoken and drawing attention to himself off the court. But on the court, I have to wonder how seriously he took his off season preparation and how much effort he's giving on the court.

Thus far this year, he's shooting just 22% from the field and 21% from 3, and is 10th on the team in scoring with less than 4 points per game. By comparison, back in 2017, he shot 42% from the field and 43% from 3 and was the offensive star of the team. I know it's early, but 22% from the field and a serious liability on defense wouldn't warrant starting for Iowa State's weak roster, let alone the #3 team in the nation with starter caliber guys like Toussaint, Nunge, and McCaffery hungry for playing time.

I get that he had hip surgery last November, but that was 12 months ago. His assists and steals numbers are comparable to previous years, and his rebound numbers are actually up. But what happened to his sweet shot?

If you watch his shot, though, he is right on it. His shot looks very good coming off his hand, has great rotation, and is on line. He isn't missing by much at all. I think it will come around. He just need to keep shooting.
 
Wow - this thread is something else.

Prediction - Nudge, JBO, PMAC from the 3rd week of January will all average 10 pts or higher.

PMAC JBO - Out 1 year of playing time
Nudge - Out 2 years of playing time
(Another thing about the thread of Jack N. versus Ryan K. - Jack is holding his own)
 
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