Regression of Bohannon's Sweet Shot
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A career ~40% will progress back to their mean, given a statistical significant opportunity.
working with a coach at the Rec, removing his shooting sleeve, or putting on his shoes in a different order, regardless, after 4 years of shooting data, we know where he’s going to end up, ~ 40%
the relevant question is how his hip injury/surgery impacts his true shooting talent. Other players with similar issues have seen significant decreases in shooting percentage.
Hard to quantify ‘other players’, what was the total # of players? or is this more of an anecdotal comparison?
easier to say that JoBo is rapidly moving closer to his career norms and what we expected he’d be at...
I might be more inclined to attribute to knocking off the rust of not playing at this speed for an entire year...
easier to say that JoBo is rapidly moving closer to his career norms and what we expected he’d be at...
I might be more inclined to attribute to knocking off the rust of not playing at this speed for an entire year...
to me that makes it anecdotal and speculative...or, might be true, might not be true
that shot doctor at the Y must be really good
Despite "catching fire" for a few weeks and boosting his shooting percentages, he is yet to "regress to the mean." We are more than halfway through the season and he's shooting:
39% from the field (10th on the team)
37% from 3 (6th on the team)
The guy loses focus, which is normal among 22 yr old kids. We just have to hope he hit's a hot streak when the games count and saves his 0-8 shooting nights for January.
39% from the field (10th on the team)
37% from 3 (6th on the team)
The guy loses focus, which is normal among 22 yr old kids. We just have to hope he hit's a hot streak when the games count and saves his 0-8 shooting nights for January.
you seriously just love when he has an off night don't you? Love that you can run back to this thread and try and prove what an awesome prognosticator you are....We all saw what happened last night. He had a bad game, it happens to the best of them. You sure have forgotten all the good things Bohannon has done for this program. Sad
I think what made last night's Wisconsin game especially painful to watch on the Bohannan front is the fact that Fran played him for 35 MINUTES - while Toussaint played just 4 mins and Ulis played 0.
It was clear from the opening tip that Bohannan's shot was off, but he continued to wildly chuck bricks from 8 feet behind the 3 point line. He also played the kind of defense we've grown accustomed to him playing (giving up wide open 3 pointer after 3 pointer...fortunately most of them missed).
At this point, J Bo is not deserving of a starting role...let alone 35 mins of playing time. He made just 1-7 shots, with the 1 being in garbage time at the end of the game with the Hawks up 20 points.
It was clear from the opening tip that Bohannan's shot was off, but he continued to wildly chuck bricks from 8 feet behind the 3 point line. He also played the kind of defense we've grown accustomed to him playing (giving up wide open 3 pointer after 3 pointer...fortunately most of them missed).
At this point, J Bo is not deserving of a starting role...let alone 35 mins of playing time. He made just 1-7 shots, with the 1 being in garbage time at the end of the game with the Hawks up 20 points.
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Ya hate to see it, but Bohannan's decision to come back for yet another season at Iowa probably wasn't in the best interests of the team. It's been yet another year where his lack of effort/athleticism on defense and his poor shooting stroke do not match up with his arrogance on the court.
After shooting a blistering 2-10 from 3 in a two point loss to Rutgers and 1-5 against Maryland this week, it's clear that he's taking away opportunity from younger kids who have paid their dues and deserve to play.
The "Big 10's all-time 3 point leader's" 2022 stats include: 12th on the team in field goal percentage at 37%, 5th in 3 point percentage at 35%, last in steals at .6, last in rebounds at 1.1. Despite his poor play, he's SECOND on the team in minutes played. How does that work?
Coach Fran needs to do the right thing and only play JBo in certain rare situations while allowing the younger guys to develop.
After shooting a blistering 2-10 from 3 in a two point loss to Rutgers and 1-5 against Maryland this week, it's clear that he's taking away opportunity from younger kids who have paid their dues and deserve to play.
The "Big 10's all-time 3 point leader's" 2022 stats include: 12th on the team in field goal percentage at 37%, 5th in 3 point percentage at 35%, last in steals at .6, last in rebounds at 1.1. Despite his poor play, he's SECOND on the team in minutes played. How does that work?
Coach Fran needs to do the right thing and only play JBo in certain rare situations while allowing the younger guys to develop.
I agree, Bohannon has sucked hard this year, and it's time to give Kris and Sandford more of his minutes.
It's likely that one of the reasons Jbo came back was because Fran asked him to when CJ left. Fran probably believes that he is doing the right thing by showing the loyalty that Jbo showed him.
Fran needs to adjust his thinking on the fly.
His job is to win games and JBo isn't helping him on either end of the court.
That will never happen with FM. Look at last year when we played a MASH unit in the NCAA's.
I assume he's been thoroughly evaluated/examined after his head injury last summer but I wonder if he suffered any impairment that might affect his vision, reflexes, or hand-eye coordination. Small margin of error between a make and a miss. Even his FTs have been off a bit lately.
He had two hip surgeries. That's the problem. When you are a short shooting guard, you have to make up for it with quickness. He no longer has that. He can't get open and can't defend.
I agree with the above, but FM should not be playing him that many minutes to the detriment of the team. JMO
He may have lost a little but he was never quick to begin with.
He was always better at getting open with the ball than without it and there was a couple years where Bohannon was the only ballhandling option and his tendency to pull up for long jump shots wasn't understood by every team in the league like it is now.
Players in Frans system are the equivalent of the old Mike Leach TT QBs.
A lot of possessions and a coach that wants you to shoot it asap leads to a build up of stats. Especially after 6 seasons as a starter.
More than anything we're just seeing a guy that every big ten coach knows how to guard now.
He was always better at getting open with the ball than without it and there was a couple years where Bohannon was the only ballhandling option and his tendency to pull up for long jump shots wasn't understood by every team in the league like it is now.
Players in Frans system are the equivalent of the old Mike Leach TT QBs.
A lot of possessions and a coach that wants you to shoot it asap leads to a build up of stats. Especially after 6 seasons as a starter.
More than anything we're just seeing a guy that every big ten coach knows how to guard now.
Just when we thought his shot couldn't possibly get any worse, Fran plays Bohannan for nearly the entire double overtime game against Penn State. The most games played in Big 10 history and also the worst game played in Big 10 history.
33 mins, 0-7 shooting, 0 rebounds, 0 steals. The guy he was guarding scored most of the points in the overtime periods. But perhaps the most telling point of the regression of Bohannan's shot was when he took the final shot in regulation, down 2, as time expires and...airrrrr balllll. WTF happened to the guy? Five years ago he was clutch. Now, he's beyond a liability.
It's time for Bohannan to sit out and give someone else (Sandfort played just 11 mins and had 5 pts and a rebound, Perkins played just 17 mins and had 4 pts, 2 rebounds, and 1 steal).
Fran has eyes. He saw what we saw. What is his explanation for playing Bohannan 33 mins in a close game where every possession counts?
33 mins, 0-7 shooting, 0 rebounds, 0 steals. The guy he was guarding scored most of the points in the overtime periods. But perhaps the most telling point of the regression of Bohannan's shot was when he took the final shot in regulation, down 2, as time expires and...airrrrr balllll. WTF happened to the guy? Five years ago he was clutch. Now, he's beyond a liability.
It's time for Bohannan to sit out and give someone else (Sandfort played just 11 mins and had 5 pts and a rebound, Perkins played just 17 mins and had 4 pts, 2 rebounds, and 1 steal).
Fran has eyes. He saw what we saw. What is his explanation for playing Bohannan 33 mins in a close game where every possession counts?
JFC I never thought I’d agree with you, but it’s not even opinion anymore. He’s just flat out playing way too much and hasn’t done a damn thing all year outside of VA.
he’s regressed badly from a decent passer and marksman shooter who lacks athleticism, great ball handling, size, driving ability and defense…. Now he lacks the shooting and he’s not setting up much as a 2 guard. **** this, get Sandfort or Tony in. He can be 3rd in line, the other two actually have shown promise and have a future here, he’s overstayed his welcome. One year too many bro, you’re hamstringing us at this point.
he’s regressed badly from a decent passer and marksman shooter who lacks athleticism, great ball handling, size, driving ability and defense…. Now he lacks the shooting and he’s not setting up much as a 2 guard. **** this, get Sandfort or Tony in. He can be 3rd in line, the other two actually have shown promise and have a future here, he’s overstayed his welcome. One year too many bro, you’re hamstringing us at this point.
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