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Oh yeah.

Pastors are grifting so well they're making 50K a year so they can get mocked endlessly by our atheist country.
Well, I have a pastor friend who is making well into six figures in a relatively small church. The vouchers will add to the grift, especially for the catholic churches.
 
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I like this quote:

"Why should we spend our time working for treasures on Earth, which will not do us any good even 100 years from now, when we could be building up treasures in Heaven, which will benefit us 100 million years from now?"

- Catholic convert and former Harvard marketing professor Roy Schoeman

I listen to John Popper (Blues Traveler) :)

Sit at the pier watch the sun go down
Another lost little boy in a big old town
I want to laugh I want to cry
But no matter how hard I may try

It won't mean a thing in a hundred years
No, it won't mean a thing in a hundred years

 
Well, I have a pastor friend who is making well into six figures in a relatively small church. The vouchers will add to the grift, especially for the catholic churches.

That's rare.

Most pastors have college degrees and could be making wayyy more in the world than they do.

Plus, they aren't as despised.
 
That's rare.

Most pastors have college degrees and could be making wayyy more in the world than they do.

Plus, they aren't as despised.
It's not, you're simply gullible. And pathetic with trying to make all clergy into victims. If they were really doing "god's work" why aren't they all in under developed countries doing everything they can to ease famine and poverty?

There are very few Mother Theresa types out there.
 
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It's not, you're simply gullible. And pathetic with trying to make all clergy into victims. If they were really doing "god's work" why aren't they all in under developed countries doing everything they can to ease famine and poverty?

There are very few Mother Theresa types out there.

Most pastors are good. Many are saints. They're needed here as well as overseas.
 
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Trump’s Volunteers: ‘Beautiful Ladies’ From a Secretive Evangelical Church​

... Mr. Trump has called out the self-described “North Carolina Girls” at rallies this year in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Georgia, Arizona and South Carolina, in addition to events in their native state. But the women are unusual in ways beyond their ubiquity.

All are members of an evangelical charismatic Christian church in the tiny town of Spindale (population 4,238) in western North Carolina. The church, Word of Faith Fellowship, has for decades drawn controversy over its cultish insularity and its treatment of children and adults who have been judged by church leaders to be sinners.

As church leaders have acknowledged in legal proceedings, Word of Faith relies on a practice known as “strong” or “blasting” prayer. Former church members have described the entire congregation surrounding and screaming at a single member for as long as an hour in an effort to expunge the evil from the person. Church officials say this characterization is overstated.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/us/politics/trump-women-church-north-carolina.html
 
I will try to give you the summary version - but a few times a year I have dinner and drinks with a couple former work buddies, both are Catholic while I am not. I was a little bit worried about the latest meeting as the one is the most anti-abortion possible (under no circumstances ever) and both are very anti-gay (Bible is very clear it is a sin and nobody should be going to church or mass unless they are trying to give up the gay lifestyle). So the one said that his priest had the best homily ever and it was about how sins are like a pyramid with the general smaller ones wide at the bottom and then it narrows as you go up the pyramid until at the very tip you have abortion, the biggest sin there is. The priest went on to say we all know Trump has sinned, but you have to weigh his sins vs the other candidate supporting abortion and you must vote for trump or you are yourself sinning just as much as the person getting an abortion. And a lot more stuff like that. This guy is totally is on board with that and when I said I didn't agree he got quite upset and sent me the "homily" from the priest which I discarded. So the priest is basically saying ignore everything trump has done but vote for him because he is against abortion while the other candidate wants everyone to have abortions. This was before Pope FrancisBins came out with his message that both candidates are bad and neither supports life so everyone must go with who they feel is least bad. I text the guy and he said yes, he had seen that, but his priest was very clear and had studied cannon law in Rome and its very clear on how we need to consider the issues. I replied "So your priest knows more than the Pope?" He said he knows there is a contradiction and he will talk to his priest this Saturday for clarification. And I mentioned now it sounds like trump supports abortion suddenly and he replied "he is only saying that because most Americans are fine with abortion and every conception is a gift from God regardless of that conception. I can hardly stand to be in public knowing all these people support murder." Seemed very odd to me. Is that normal for priests or pastors?
Weird. My priest a few months ago was talking about how the catholic religion is made up of all different types of people. Both republicans and democrats and how we should support each other and work to create something better instead of trying to create a divide. He said you shouldn’t be able to tell if someone is democrat or republican.
I should probably let him know he would get eaten alive if he ever came to this message board with all the “both sides” arguing some like to do. Because if you don’t 100% agree with their cult, you are the enemy.
 
Weird. My priest a few months ago was talking about how the catholic religion is made up of all different types of people. Both republicans and democrats and how we should support each other and work to create something better instead of trying to create a divide. He said you shouldn’t be able to tell if someone is democrat or republican.
I should probably let him know he would get eaten alive if he ever came to this message board with all the “both sides” arguing some like to do. Because if you don’t 100% agree with their cult, you are the enemy.
I am currently reading the late Cardinal Pell's prison diaries. I think it's pretty fair to say that all sins harm you, and also that some sins are worse than others (and indeed as you know the Church distinguishes between mortal and venial in its theology and practice). But in discussing some of the correspondence he received while in prison, Pell invariably resists the authors' invitations to focus on particular ones and to diminish others, and recognizes that that sort of sorting is best left for God at the end rather than for the priest here on earth. The priest's role here is to facilitate reconciliation to the maximum extent possible.
 
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