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Resident says cop who pulled gun on teens at pool party “deserves a medal”

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Interesting, his own boss condemned his actions. Don't worry mr. LEO, Arby has your back.
 
http://rare.us/story/resident-says-cop-who-pulled-gun-on-teens-at-pool-party-deserves-a-medal/


I want everyone to know that the police officer was completely in the right along with everyone else,” the McKinney resident told CNN. “They were completely in the right and protecting everyone. He was not out of line. I completely support him drawing his weapon or a taser or whatever he did pull because it showed him being attacked from behind.

Really? Is his mom a McKinney resident?
 
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"Dang blasted kids with their music, and their dancing!...........

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The video shows us very little of what happened in McKinney that day. It doesn't show people breaking into homes and cars in the neighborhood. It doesn't show people jumping the fence at the pool. One thing it did show was two young men aggressively approaching the officer as he was subduing a detainee. For all he knew, they were about to tackle him and take his weapon. He was 100% correct when he drew his firearm. As soon as the aggressors turned an ran, he re holstered it.
 
One thing it did show was two young men aggressively approaching the officer as he was subduing a detainee. For all he knew, they were about to tackle him and take his weapon. He was 100% correct when he drew his firearm. As soon as the aggressors turned an ran, he re holstered it.

What percent was he correct when he threw the girl to the ground?
 
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What percent was he correct when he threw the girl to the ground?

She had plenty of chances to leave the area and was told to many times. She decided to stay and run her mouth. She crossed the line and then resisted being detained. When someone resists, they get thrown to the ground regardless of sex or age. She deserved what she got.
 
She had plenty of chances to leave the area and was told to many times. She decided to stay and run her mouth. She crossed the line and then resisted being detained. When someone resists, they get thrown to the ground regardless of sex or age. She deserved what she got.

Okay, maybe he should have just started shooting people too.
 
What percent was he correct when he threw the girl to the ground?
Glad you asked. He was 100% correct there too. He had repeatedly told her to leave. She didn’t. When he made the decision to detain her, he told her to get on the ground. She didn’t. He had no other choice but to use force to gain compliance.
She had plenty of opportunity to avoid the situation. She didn’t take advantage of those opportunities.
 
The video shows us very little of what happened in McKinney that day. It doesn't show people breaking into homes and cars in the neighborhood. It doesn't show people jumping the fence at the pool. One thing it did show was two young men aggressively approaching the officer as he was subduing a detainee. For all he knew, they were about to tackle him and take his weapon. He was 100% correct when he drew his firearm. As soon as the aggressors turned an ran, he re holstered it.
There are always more than one side to a story. Before making any firm conclusions based on a short video, let's let the investigation take place first.
 
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He was yelling at kids to get on the ground, but he walked right past the kid shooting the video and said not a word. Why do you think that is...percentage-wise?

He was screaming at the girl to get her ass on the ground when her ass was firmly planted on the ground. He then grabbed her by the neck and leaned down on her trying to - I suppose - bend her in half. He then picked her up off the ground (remember, that's where he told her she needed to be) and slammed her back down on the ground. If that's my daughter, he's going to have to pull his weapon on me because I would have reacted far more forcefully than her friends did.

But that wouldn't have happened. See if you can guess why? It shares something with the reason he didn't say boo to the teen shooting the video.
 
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Way to show how stupid you are.

Stop. Play that backwards.

What IS stupid these days? Do people think Stupid is like syrup to be poured on a Sh.t pancake? Pour enough of it and people can't taste the sh.t? NO! It doesn't work like that...now people taste the sh.t AND the stupid!
 
So many here that have no idea what the job entails but want to criticize every officer's action in hindsight.

Same happens in every teacher thread.
 
Wow. These have to be trolls. I hope these are trolls. Please let them be just trolls..........

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No...zombies. :( Zombies don't watch/read the news.
 
So many here that have no idea what the job entails but want to criticize every officer's action in hindsight.

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These same people are saying that every other officer in the video acted appropriately. The midget officer was out of control.
 
These same people are saying that every other officer in the video acted appropriately. The midget officer was out of control.
I saw both good and bad in the video. I understand why he did some of the things he did, although there were other ways to get accomplished some of the things he was trying to do. I don't think a firing was necessary but possible reprimanding and ongoing training.

That of course is with limited knowledge of what happened and what was going on, as we all have.

Saying an officer should have done something in hindsight is quite easy though. When, for example, two kids start to become aggressive when you're at the moment alone in what could quickly become another mob and considering the tensions between police and black people/kids at the moment, you don't have the luxury of hindsight. Which is what I have the luxury of doing as I form my opinion on the matter.
 
I saw both good and bad in the video. I understand why he did some of the things he did, although there were other ways to get accomplished some of the things he was trying to do. I don't think a firing was necessary but possible reprimanding and ongoing training.

That of course is with limited knowledge of what happened and what was going on, as we all have.

Saying an officer should have done something in hindsight is quite easy though. When, for example, two kids start to become aggressive when you're at the moment alone in what could quickly become another mob and considering the tensions between police and black people/kids at the moment, you don't have the luxury of hindsight. Which is what I have the luxury of doing as I form my opinion on the matter.


He didn't get fired. He resigned.
 
If the officer hadn't been such a tool he wouldn't have needed to draw his gun. Did you watch the video leading up to that point? While most of the other cops were pretty calm, dipshit was running around like he was in a firestorm, chasing every black kid in sight. He was the one that escalated everything. I'd hate to see him in a real confrontation instead of having to take down a 14 year old girl.
 
These same people are saying that every other officer in the video acted appropriately. The midget officer was out of control.

At this point, I think almost all of us posting on this subject do not have a perfectly clear representation of the whole event. No matter your perspective, it concerns me that so much "commentary" and "analysis" goes on these days with at best, partial information about what really happened at the scene.

That being said, it seems pretty clear that the one officer let his emotions take over and over reacted to the situation. Had he not already resigned, I think he should have faced discipline over his actions and failure to follow protocol. On the positive front, it did appear as though all other officers on the scene were under control and even seemed to quickly diffuse Officer Freakout when he pulled his gun from his holster. While we are jumping on the one officer...let's pause and commend the others that kept it together in a hectic situation.

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The young girl in the bikini was also way out of line by virtue of not following the commands of law enforcement who were trying to control the situation. Her lack of respect for authority, etc, unnecessarily escalated the situation and potentially made it a dangerous scenario. To a lesser degree, the two kids that rapidly approached the officer/girl conflict also served to escalate the situation. Stop and think about the attitudes behind 15 year old kids so vehemently challenging police officers who were called to a disturbance. The one LEO blew his top and over-reacted...but there was also a great deal of additional and unnecessary stress added to this situation by a fairly widespread lack of respect for authority.

As a society, we need primary two things to change here...1. All LEO's need to show restraint and keep their emotions in check when diffusing such situations. LEO's that do not follow protocol/training deserve to be disciplined and even punished via applicable laws. 2. Citizen's need to respect the police and comply with their requests/commands, particularly in chaotic situations. Those that choose to remain unruly and defy orders...well then, they should expect that they may be "taken down" or subdued by force. (Note - this does not mean shot with a gun when there are no weapons present, etc.)

If we as a society allow chaos and disrespect to rule the day or accept that various and sundry parties to a disturbance/melee/riot are free to yell at, resist and challenge LEO's...well then I think we are on a short path to a substantial break down of law and order...at least in some communities.
 
Glad you asked. He was 100% correct there too. He had repeatedly told her to leave. She didn’t. When he made the decision to detain her, he told her to get on the ground. She didn’t. He had no other choice but to use force to gain compliance.
She had plenty of opportunity to avoid the situation. She didn’t take advantage of those opportunities.

Yep Agree 100% she had a chance to get out there and go home. She didn't and she paid the price. Learn to walk away and shut up when someone tells you to.

Sorry but these kids get no sympathy from me. If I was that cop they all would of been on the ground in handcuffs.

All these incidents that have happened, if people LISTEN TO THE POLICE and follow their orders, NONE OF THIS HAPPENS. But instead all these people do is run their mouth and try to run away from the police. Listen and obey and you will live. It amazes me these people want go to against the POLICE like they are out to get you??? Seriously, in the midwest every interaction I have had with a cop has been conducted in a professional manner.
 
I really didn't see this incident as a racial issue, and still don't, but I found it funny that the cameraman is a white teenager who has said it was racial, and no one was telling him to do anything...even though he was right there filming it.
 
Yep Agree 100% she had a chance to get out there and go home. She didn't and she paid the price. Learn to walk away and shut up when someone tells you to.

Sorry but these kids get no sympathy from me. If I was that cop they all would of been on the ground in handcuffs.

All these incidents that have happened, if people LISTEN TO THE POLICE and follow their orders, NONE OF THIS HAPPENS. But instead all these people do is run their mouth and try to run away from the police. Listen and obey and you will live. It amazes me these people want go to against the POLICE like they are out to get you??? Seriously, in the midwest every interaction I have had with a cop has been conducted in a professional manner.

So it, literally, means nothing to you that the commissioner/boss/whoever has publicly denounced his actions.

Really?
 
Did you see 1 white kid being asked to stay put or shut the f up? Of course the white kids don't run because they know the cops are heading straight for the black kids. Should the girls have walked away? Sure. Were they a threat of any real kind? Would the cop have been better served to keep checking the area for a real threat? What did he have to gain by tossing a 14 year old girl to the ground like that? Absolutely nothing. Of course unless she was a Janes Bond villain and kept a gun in her bikini.
 
From what I understand, a pool party celebrating the end of school was announced on Twitter. Way more people showed up than were actually invited (like several dozen people more).
A few people did have pool passes, but many were handing them to people outside once they got inside. Others without passes just jumped the fence. The end result being a dangerously overcrowded pool area. Other residents not associated with the out of control party let their dissatisfaction be known and that's when fights started breaking out and that's when police were called.
At some point, pissed-off party guests started vandalizing homes and cars in the area. One car was reported stolen during the incident.
It should be said that the HOA set a limit on the number of guests a resident could bring to the pool at one time. It should also be said that the rule isn't strictly enforced. It should further also be said it isn't strictly enforced because no one had attempted to abuse it to this extent before. Look for the rule to be enforced with an iron fist from this point forward, or the closing of the pool entirely.
 
If the officer hadn't been such a tool he wouldn't have needed to draw his gun. Did you watch the video leading up to that point? While most of the other cops were pretty calm, dipshit was running around like he was in a firestorm, chasing every black kid in sight. He was the one that escalated everything. I'd hate to see him in a real confrontation instead of having to take down a 14 year old girl.

Exactly.

I for one don't think the cop is a racist. I don't even think he's necessarily a bully.

But he certainly is a shitty cop who clearly has self-control issues. I was cringing with embarssment for him watching him, and I'd wager the other officers on the scene felt the same.
 
From what I understand, a pool party celebrating the end of school was announced on Twitter. Way more people showed up than were actually invited (like several dozen people more).
A few people did have pool passes, but many were handing them to people outside once they got inside. Others without passes just jumped the fence. The end result being a dangerously overcrowded pool area. Other residents not associated with the out of control party let their dissatisfaction be known and that's when fights started breaking out and that's when police were called.
At some point, pissed-off party guests started vandalizing homes and cars in the area. One car was reported stolen during the incident.
It should be said that the HOA set a limit on the number of guests a resident could bring to the pool at one time. It should also be said that the rule isn't strictly enforced. It should further also be said it isn't strictly enforced because no one had attempted to abuse it to this extent before. Look for the rule to be enforced with an iron fist from this point forward, or the closing of the pool entirely.

Now that is much better! Keep in mind, the persons arriving were responding to the information they had. They thought they were invited!

As to the mess that followed, I don't think I've seen a single post say the cops should not have been called. Nor do I think I've seen a post complain about any but ONE of the cops. And that cops actions brought on severe criticism from his boss. And that cop resigned.

I'm beginning to believe some posters would just as soon the cop had shot ten people. What? There can't be a bad cop? Ever?
 
Saying an officer should have done something in hindsight is quite easy though. When, for example, two kids start to become aggressive when you're at the moment alone in what could quickly become another mob and considering the tensions between police and black people/kids at the moment, you don't have the luxury of hindsight. Which is what I have the luxury of doing as I form my opinion on the matter.

Of course, but that is our purview. We get to use hindsight. Like his boss, who did, and now he is gone.

Seriously, if it is a bad thing to use hindsight.........how can they ever do anything we disapprove of?
 
Exactly.

I for one don't think the cop is a racist. I don't even think he's necessarily a bully.

But he certainly is a shitty cop who clearly has self-control issues. I was cringing with embarssment for him watching him, and I'd wager the other officers on the scene felt the same.

Can you just imagine those other two LEO's thought processes?

"Oh f*** Billy is gonna shoot someone....oh sh** get over there..."

It reminds me of something, but I'm not remembering what. A Police Academy clip maybe?
 
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