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I fundamentally agree with your point here, but it should be noted that point Number 2 (citizens confronting/not respecting LEOs) is often a DIRECT RESULT of LEOs not observing point Number 1.
Resident says cop who pulled gun on teens at pool party “deserves a medal”
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I fundamentally agree with your point here, but it should be noted that point Number 2 (citizens confronting/not respecting LEOs) is often a DIRECT RESULT of LEOs not observing point Number 1.
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Is HRcool angry? Can you be happy, smile, enjoy life with that type of outlook?
Speaking of angry, what happened to Northern?
Speaking of angry, what happened to Northern?
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In Arbitr8's defense - it can be hard to see out of the holes cut in the pillow case over his head.
HOTE="theIowaHawk, post: 373323, member: 12894"]Is HRcool angry? Can you be happy, smile, enjoy life with that type of outlook?
Speaking of angry, what happened to Northern?[/QUOTE]
anything that gets you to stop torturing animals for a second and post on the internet is a good thing and makes me happy
Speaking of angry, what happened to Northern?[/QUOTE]
anything that gets you to stop torturing animals for a second and post on the internet is a good thing and makes me happy
you're so angry with your outlook and everyone who disagrees with you as a KKK member can't you ever be happy
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Nope, not everyone. Just one poster who has been consistent in his unrelenting racism posting on here for several years.
In case you missed it, I specifically said in this thread that I didn't believe the officer involved in this case was acting in a racist manner at all. He's just a dumb cop.
Arbitr8, on the other hand, is, has been, and I suspect will continue to be, a predictably racist asshat.
Oh, I should add I am extremely happy. Unlike a certain poster who is so afraid of the "negro threat" he doesn't like traveling to Omaha freaking Nebraska, lol.
Agreed, surely there are times where the actions/attitude of a LEO elicit a response from the detained and that is one of the reasons that I think it is good that so many people can nowadays so quickly record exactly "what went down" with their phones, etc. In general, I am a supporter of law enforcement personnel, but once people got their hands on video cameras about 20+ years ago and NOW, virtually everyone has a smartphone with video recording, we are "seeing" what has been happening at some level for decades.
It's not fun to watch at times, but it does bring a level of accountability out that probably was lost more often than not in the past. Pictures don't lie, etc... There are poor/emotional/etc LEO's, just like there are poor representatives of all professions, and I am glad when those bad apples are exposed and disciplined/discharged/charged/etc. But ask coaches, teachers, LEO's, etc, if people in general are more or less respectful today v. yesteryear...and I think the answer to that question will help explain why there are seemingly more frequent escalated conflicts between LEO's and some in the public.
There are plenty of times where the LEO is behaving perfectly and the detainee(s) blow the situation up all on their own...at the risk of all involved. THAT behavior needs to be called out just as much as the bad cops IMO.
anything that gets you to stop torturing animals for a second and post on the internet is a good thing and makes me happy[/QUOTE]
I'm confused by this, are you joining Prime/Aegon in attacking my avatar?
I think you may be replying to me...if so, can you point out where I indicated that these two scenarios are occurring in equal proportions? Before we get all critical here...thinking or otherwise, let's be sure I said what you think I said.
Wow goose stepping Torbee hating on the cops because his messiah Barack Hussein Obama hates the man in blue also.
Keep goose stepping Torbee
So, what have the Duggers said about this?
Provide tangible evidence to support your claim about Obama, otherwise everyone will continue to consider you what you are: a hypocrite.
When talking about hypocrites, you're number 1.
You really don't know what 'tangible evidence' means, do you? Show me evidence from a non-partisan source with data to support the claim.
Of course, since you're perfectly content defending the Duggers and their child molesting son, I guess it shouldn't surprise me that you lack the skills to do do.
Things are much worse today?
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming
we're finally on our own
this summer I heard the drumming
four dead in Ohio.............
$^!#, we had a freaking group of Pool Party Raiders! Mostly due to the tweets of a stupid DJ (it appears) these youths thought they could be there. Twelve cops handled the situation, eleven rather well.
We have ONE Rambo Fife making a mess of the way things were handled and people feel the need to make this about what happened before those seven minutes? We don't need to know, the point was and is the cop was out of line! No one is arguing the rest!!!
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming
we're finally on our own
this summer I heard the drumming
four dead in Ohio.............
$^!#, we had a freaking group of Pool Party Raiders! Mostly due to the tweets of a stupid DJ (it appears) these youths thought they could be there. Twelve cops handled the situation, eleven rather well.
We have ONE Rambo Fife making a mess of the way things were handled and people feel the need to make this about what happened before those seven minutes? We don't need to know, the point was and is the cop was out of line! No one is arguing the rest!!!
I've never quite understood the pounding the open hand with the back of the other hand or the beating of the chest thing when trying to communicate. I have always seen that as aggressive behavior and I have seen it many times.
And to be fair, point Number 2 is often a DIRECT RESULT of the public not observing point Number 1.
So it appears he learned a valuable lesson and called police instead of engaging in violence again. Seems like a lesson the chick in the bikini should have learned.
If that's how you see it. Its kind of why I quit posting here or most anywhere regarding politics. People have chosen sides and nothing will change their mind. But I worked with criminals and those who kill and torture animals are a special breed. But you go ahead and trust him. Excuse me if I am a little skeptical of his intent. In fact I would not trust him any farther than I can spit.
Many believe the police officer was not out of line, all of us can agree the crowd was out of line.
There are right at 319 million people in the U.S., if one in a thousand is dumb enough to think that the officer was not out of line? You are right! That is 319 THOUSAND people that may think the cop was a fine example of law enforcement.
That's scary to think about.
So you are calling him a liar. He made a statement, using his personal opinion. Either it was truthful, and he disagrees with the posters saying the LEO was in the right......or you are calling him a liar.
I don't agree that the "crowd" was out of line. They were responding to their treatment. Were specific people out of line? Yes. I'm not sure the girl was, not from the videos I watched.
And yes, I understand that some of you believe that immediate, and unequivocal obedience is required for law enforcement. It isn't. In fact, the SCOTUS has clearly ruled that the appropriate response to an officer asking you to stop and talk to them is to walk away, of course you can stop, but walking away is an appropriate response. Obviously, then, if they have justification they can seize you. This was a crowd of people, apparently on the public sidewalk/area, some were told to leave, some were told to stay, some were thrown to the ground. Standing around and talking, or even yelling, is not "out of line."
What do you make of the fact that he was ordering everybody he saw to sit down but walked right by the kid shooting the video and didn't say "boo". I find that odd.
Apparently you've never worked in PR.
Not calling I'm a liar in the slightest. But Public Affairs for the City are telling him exactly what to say, and how to address it. The quickest way to quiet the storm, is to be agreeable and to call the officer out for his actions.
It's not as black and white as you wish it to be.
